The whole "boycott gas for one day" is useless, eventually people will buy gas the day after.
The whole key is targetting the biggest gas companies like Exxon/Mobil and Chevron/Texaco. Once people stop buying at these gas stations they will force their prices to go down.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DavidRFuller wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If all Americans do not go to the pump on June 5th it would take more than 3 Billion dollars out of oil companies pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on Tuesday, June 5th 2007. Let’s try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil companies for at least one day.
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Actually, I don't buy my gas directly FROM the oil companies... the gas station has already paid for the gas that's in their tanks prior to June 5th. So the only person you'll be hurting is the gas station. Eventually, they will need to get more gas and will pay the oil companies.
Please explain the "dent". The guy that owns the gas station near my house is a really nice guy and has never done anything to me except say "good morning". Why would I want to boycott him for one day?
Who should we buy our oil from?
Venezuela supplies about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude oil and refined petroleum products to the U.S. market, according to the EIA. Venezuelan oil comprises about 11 percent of U.S. crude oil imports, which amounts to 60 percent of Venezuela’s total exports.
Russian oil? Well, try getting Transneft to build more pipelines. Instead, they continue to use trains and boats, driving the cost up and not producing enough to meet needs.
Central Asia: Because the region's pipelines were constructed during the Moscow-centered Soviet period, they tend to head north and west toward Russia. There are no connections to the south and east. But Russia is currently unlikely to absorb large new quantities of foreign oil. It's unlikely to be a significant market for new energy in the next decade. It lacks the capacity to deliver it to other markets.
South America: GAO reviewed the petroleum industries of the following eight South American Countries that produce petroleum but are not major exporters: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and Trinidad and Tobago. In general, although the United States imports some oil from these countries, as a group, the eight countries are currently net oil importers because combined domestic oil consumption exceeds oil production. Furthermore, the net oil imports are expected to continue to increase through the year 2010, making it unlikely that the United States will obtain increased oil shipments from these countries.
If all Americans do not go to the pump on June 5th it would take more than 3 Billion dollars out of oil companies pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on Tuesday, June 5th 2007. Let’s try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil companies for at least one day.
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Actually, I don't buy my gas directly FROM the oil companies... the gas station has already paid for the gas that's in their tanks prior to June 5th. So the only person you'll be hurting is the gas station. Eventually, they will need to get more gas and will pay the oil companies.
Please explain the "dent". The guy that owns the gas station near my house is a really nice guy and has never done anything to me except say "good morning". Why would I want to boycott him for one day?
Who should we buy our oil from?
Venezuela supplies about 1.5 million barrels per day of crude oil and refined petroleum products to the U.S. market, according to the EIA. Venezuelan oil comprises about 11 percent of U.S. crude oil imports, which amounts to 60 percent of Venezuela’s total exports.
Russian oil? Well, try getting Transneft to build more pipelines. Instead, they continue to use trains and boats, driving the cost up and not producing enough to meet needs.
Central Asia: Because the region's pipelines were constructed during the Moscow-centered Soviet period, they tend to head north and west toward Russia. There are no connections to the south and east. But Russia is currently unlikely to absorb large new quantities of foreign oil. It's unlikely to be a significant market for new energy in the next decade. It lacks the capacity to deliver it to other markets.
South America: GAO reviewed the petroleum industries of the following eight South American Countries that produce petroleum but are not major exporters: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and Trinidad and Tobago. In general, although the United States imports some oil from these countries, as a group, the eight countries are currently net oil importers because combined domestic oil consumption exceeds oil production. Furthermore, the net oil imports are expected to continue to increase through the year 2010, making it unlikely that the United States will obtain increased oil shipments from these countries.
So, the price of a finite resource increases as the level of that resource diminishes....?
Do y'all remember voting for capitalism?
Do y'all remember voting for capitalism?
I'm not sure that it helps, but one of the different suggestions I've seen is to not purchase anything from the station other than gas. That includes coffee, cigarettes, snacks, gum etc. It's a small gesture, but a gesture nonetheless.
I don't see how that sends a message to oil companies at all. The Gas Station is just the reseller and does little to set prices - and most will tell you that they earn very little on gas sales and make up the difference through other items like candy, drinks, etc. That point is made very clear whenever there is a rash of drive offs due to high prices.
And to add a wrinkle, some states have laws that prohibit gas stations from selling gas too cheap.
And to add a wrinkle, some states have laws that prohibit gas stations from selling gas too cheap.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]willem-jan wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oh stop complaining you Americans.
Over here we pay 1,50 euro for a single liter. That would be something like 7 dollars/gallon. Instead of complaining, Americans should start driving more efficient cars. This increase in prices is the only way this can be realized (apparently). [/QUOTE]
I knew it wouldn't be long before some of you from across the pond would tell us Americans to stop bitching. I'm well aware that you pay more for gasoline or petrol/whatever everyone else calls it. Just realize that when you're used to paying a certain price for something and then all of the sudden it goes up 300%, it's a little shocking to the pocket. I'm not saying you don't have a right to tell us to stop whining but just please consider that.
Edited to add that I do agree with you that we should not be driving 12 liter engine cars here, or even V8's or V6's unless you need to haul something heavy but face it, they sell here and people have the money to buy them and they have the money to pay for the gas. These people that have these huge cars probably aren't the ones bitching about gas prices though and they also don't give a rip about the environment either.
My parents just bought a 36 foot RV (Recreational Vehicle) that gets 7 miles to the gallon and cost $600 at the current price to fill up. It's not good for the environment I know but they worked their whole life and saved bc their dream after retirement was to buy this RV and travel the country. What can you do? I sure as hell have no clue but I can tell you this...my next car is going to be a hybrid. I would be in heaven getting 43 miles to the gallon!!!! Oh and also happy I'm helping the environment. ;)
Thank you very much and good night.
Over here we pay 1,50 euro for a single liter. That would be something like 7 dollars/gallon. Instead of complaining, Americans should start driving more efficient cars. This increase in prices is the only way this can be realized (apparently). [/QUOTE]
I knew it wouldn't be long before some of you from across the pond would tell us Americans to stop bitching. I'm well aware that you pay more for gasoline or petrol/whatever everyone else calls it. Just realize that when you're used to paying a certain price for something and then all of the sudden it goes up 300%, it's a little shocking to the pocket. I'm not saying you don't have a right to tell us to stop whining but just please consider that.
Edited to add that I do agree with you that we should not be driving 12 liter engine cars here, or even V8's or V6's unless you need to haul something heavy but face it, they sell here and people have the money to buy them and they have the money to pay for the gas. These people that have these huge cars probably aren't the ones bitching about gas prices though and they also don't give a rip about the environment either.
My parents just bought a 36 foot RV (Recreational Vehicle) that gets 7 miles to the gallon and cost $600 at the current price to fill up. It's not good for the environment I know but they worked their whole life and saved bc their dream after retirement was to buy this RV and travel the country. What can you do? I sure as hell have no clue but I can tell you this...my next car is going to be a hybrid. I would be in heaven getting 43 miles to the gallon!!!! Oh and also happy I'm helping the environment. ;)
Thank you very much and good night.
What a stupid, shitty, short-sighted, and ignorant idea. No offense.
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What a stupid, shitty, short-sighted, and ignorant idea. No offense.
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?[/QUOTE]
Is this directed towards me?
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?[/QUOTE]
Is this directed towards me?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What a stupid, shitty, short-sighted, and ignorant idea. No offense.
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?[/QUOTE]
Is this directed towards me?[/QUOTE]
No, of course not. It'd be a lot nicer if it were directed at you. To be truthful, it's directed at the person who first came up with the idea that not pumping gas a certain day will change anything. I can understand why people would think it's a good idea, so it's really directed at those who actively pursue propagandizing the movement.
Edit: Oh, and sorry to all for the aggressive reaction.
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?[/QUOTE]
Is this directed towards me?[/QUOTE]
No, of course not. It'd be a lot nicer if it were directed at you. To be truthful, it's directed at the person who first came up with the idea that not pumping gas a certain day will change anything. I can understand why people would think it's a good idea, so it's really directed at those who actively pursue propagandizing the movement.
Edit: Oh, and sorry to all for the aggressive reaction.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What a stupid, shitty, short-sighted, and ignorant idea. No offense.
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?[/QUOTE]
Is this directed towards me?[/QUOTE]
No, of course not. It'd be a lot nicer if it were directed at you. To be truthful, it's directed at the person who first came up with the idea that not pumping gas a certain day will change anything. I can understand why people would think it's a good idea, so it's really directed at those who actively pursue propagandizing the movement.
Edit: Oh, and sorry to all for the aggressive reaction.[/QUOTE]
:) I'm soooooo glad bc I always enjoy reading your responses and you are one of a handful of sane people left on the board at the present time.
You really don't think though that oil companies used 9/11 and the war as a reason for increasing prices? I sure remember the cost of flights going up bc the airlines said fuel was going up so much and so quickly.
I don't know what the answer is but something needs to happen. With all the oil companies reporting such HUGE profits each year. In the USA only a handful of large cities have mass transportation systems so either the govt needs to provide mass transit for people everywhere (which will be nearly impossible) or maybe they ought to intervene and place fuel cost caps? Not sure that'll ever happen with Bush in charge though or any politician that has their hands in the pockets of oil execs.
I would love to have mass transit and I only live about 3 miles from my work. If I didn't have to pay car insurance, gas, and a car payment each month, I'd be RICH!!!! Seems like to me everyone and everything would benefit from it, only if it were a realistic thing though. There are so many parts of America that are dense and not considered populated highly enough for a mass transit system I can only assume.
Gas prices have been steadily increasing not since September 11, 2001, but since long before then.
Do you know where gas prices come from? They are not arbitrarily decided by wealthy oil companies. In a free market, gas prices are decided by supply and demand. Supply and demand. Supply and demand. One more time. Supply and demand.
If you think something is too expensive, don't blame the companies - blame the consumers. If you're willing to pay $5.00 a gallon, gas should fucking be $5.00 a God-damned gallon. How complicated is it?[/QUOTE]
Is this directed towards me?[/QUOTE]
No, of course not. It'd be a lot nicer if it were directed at you. To be truthful, it's directed at the person who first came up with the idea that not pumping gas a certain day will change anything. I can understand why people would think it's a good idea, so it's really directed at those who actively pursue propagandizing the movement.
Edit: Oh, and sorry to all for the aggressive reaction.[/QUOTE]
:) I'm soooooo glad bc I always enjoy reading your responses and you are one of a handful of sane people left on the board at the present time.
You really don't think though that oil companies used 9/11 and the war as a reason for increasing prices? I sure remember the cost of flights going up bc the airlines said fuel was going up so much and so quickly.
I don't know what the answer is but something needs to happen. With all the oil companies reporting such HUGE profits each year. In the USA only a handful of large cities have mass transportation systems so either the govt needs to provide mass transit for people everywhere (which will be nearly impossible) or maybe they ought to intervene and place fuel cost caps? Not sure that'll ever happen with Bush in charge though or any politician that has their hands in the pockets of oil execs.
I would love to have mass transit and I only live about 3 miles from my work. If I didn't have to pay car insurance, gas, and a car payment each month, I'd be RICH!!!! Seems like to me everyone and everything would benefit from it, only if it were a realistic thing though. There are so many parts of America that are dense and not considered populated highly enough for a mass transit system I can only assume.
Oh, well. We have plenty of grass in this country and I'm pretty sure there are some wild horses running around in Nevada...just need to learn how to catch some good ones - they would need to be young enough and fast enough to go fetch the doctor if needed. Other than that, some solar or wind power for our computers ... a bit of gardening in the backyard...
Good to have you back Donna. I've missed you.
:)
:)
we could convert back to trains :-p