Actually it's great to see the Tango defence. I prefer other albums...even Mirage...but it's by no means a "bad album".
The Who's "It's Hard" is a truly woeful album, and really the lads should have taken their "extended rest" after "Face Dances". I mean, for fuck's sake...Kenny Jones, like.... Though I agree that Eminence Front is excellent.
As for "Human Touch"...not one of Springsteen's best efforts, but I think "57 Channels", and "I Wish I Were Blind" weren't bad efforts.
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Friends by The Beach Boys is a fab album. It's no Pet Sounds, Today or Holland - but has it's moments.
It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Yeah different strokes ;-)
I like The Final Cut... sometimes. As you say it's a very slow album, but I admit it could be MUCH better if it wasn't for the terrible mixing job Roger did with it. Basically, he decided to put all the music layers too much behind his voice, in a way that if you listen to the album in a low volume, you can hear nothing but him.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point - and then the times he whispers you hear nothing at all! I didn't know he did the mix, although that makes sense since the band was ruled under his dictatorship at the time. Still, an incredibly gifted songwriter.
Yeah different strokes ;-)
I like The Final Cut... sometimes. As you say it's a very slow album, but I admit it could be MUCH better if it wasn't for the terrible mixing job Roger did with it. Basically, he decided to put all the music layers too much behind his voice, in a way that if you listen to the album in a low volume, you can hear nothing but him.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point - and then the times he whispers you hear nothing at all! I didn't know he did the mix, although that makes sense since the band was ruled under his dictatorship at the time. Still, an incredibly gifted songwriter.
I can't understand why Outside by Bowie is viewed as bad album. It's great as far as I'm concerned even if the crime story is too bizarre to follow.
Plus I think Human Touch by The Boss is underrated too. Man's Job and I Wish I Were Blind are great and so is Roll Of The Dice. It's certainly better than Tom Joad, which is the musical equivalent of Purgatory.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.[/QUOTE]
You´re right. POP by U2 should be in the list.
And i´ve never understood the thing about Pink Floyd without Roger Waters. As far as i´m concern their "Division Bell" album is among their best.
I´ve never heard the 1987 one, but i´ve heard five wonderfull songs from it (one being the wonderfull "On a Turning Away"). If people consider this a bad album then it doesn´t make much sense.
Take care
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.[/QUOTE]
You´re right. POP by U2 should be in the list.
And i´ve never understood the thing about Pink Floyd without Roger Waters. As far as i´m concern their "Division Bell" album is among their best.
I´ve never heard the 1987 one, but i´ve heard five wonderfull songs from it (one being the wonderfull "On a Turning Away"). If people consider this a bad album then it doesn´t make much sense.
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]turini wrote: [/QUOTENAME]1. “Under Pressure” off Queen’s Hot Space[/QUOTE]
This is a pretty good choice for number one on a list like this. I like Hot Space the way an uncle loves his ugly niece, but "Under Pressure" really is head and shoulders above everything on that album besides the gorgeous "Las Palabras de Amor". Over the years, "Under Pressure" has grown to become one of my favorite songs in the entire Queen catalogue, primarily because of the passion and the immediacy of the vocal performances, although the sentiment doesn't hurt either. Brilliant song, not so great album.
[QUOTE][14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the Night[/QUOTE]
Agree that TITN wasn't much of an album, but "Little Lies" is much better than "Big Love". The former has that gorgeous Christine McVie vocal, whereas the latter is all Lindsey Buckingham fiddling with his own voice for the umpteenth time. Its not an awful song (and lightyears better than Buckingham's "Family Man" from the same album) but its hardly the best track from the album.
[QUOTE]16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-Biz[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Great track btw.
[QUOTE]20. “The Most Beautiful Girl in the World” off Prince’s The Gold Experience[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Also a great track. Even when Prince is bad, he's interesting.
[QUOTE]22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of Reason[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
[QUOTE]23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big Thing[/QUOTE]
Disagree. Not a great song.
And whoever mentioned Lindsey Buckingham's solo tour is right. I've seen him three times in support of his most recent album and he puts on a terrific show. I like him much better live than on the record.
This is a pretty good choice for number one on a list like this. I like Hot Space the way an uncle loves his ugly niece, but "Under Pressure" really is head and shoulders above everything on that album besides the gorgeous "Las Palabras de Amor". Over the years, "Under Pressure" has grown to become one of my favorite songs in the entire Queen catalogue, primarily because of the passion and the immediacy of the vocal performances, although the sentiment doesn't hurt either. Brilliant song, not so great album.
[QUOTE][14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the Night[/QUOTE]
Agree that TITN wasn't much of an album, but "Little Lies" is much better than "Big Love". The former has that gorgeous Christine McVie vocal, whereas the latter is all Lindsey Buckingham fiddling with his own voice for the umpteenth time. Its not an awful song (and lightyears better than Buckingham's "Family Man" from the same album) but its hardly the best track from the album.
[QUOTE]16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-Biz[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Great track btw.
[QUOTE]20. “The Most Beautiful Girl in the World” off Prince’s The Gold Experience[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Also a great track. Even when Prince is bad, he's interesting.
[QUOTE]22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of Reason[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
[QUOTE]23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big Thing[/QUOTE]
Disagree. Not a great song.
And whoever mentioned Lindsey Buckingham's solo tour is right. I've seen him three times in support of his most recent album and he puts on a terrific show. I like him much better live than on the record.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bobby_brown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.[/QUOTE]
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Hah hah hah. I think Vertigo from the pathetically earnest HTDAAB should be there, not the two albums where U2 actually did something interesting.Pop has its faults but Zooropa is an amazing record- give me that over Bono's eighties and noughties preaching any day.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.[/QUOTE]
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Hah hah hah. I think Vertigo from the pathetically earnest HTDAAB should be there, not the two albums where U2 actually did something interesting.Pop has its faults but Zooropa is an amazing record- give me that over Bono's eighties and noughties preaching any day.
Can someone explain to me why Eminence Front is so loved?? I mean... it is not a BAD song... but still.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.[/QUOTE]
Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd.
Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone.
Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list.
- 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa
- 'Please' from Pop
Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.[/QUOTE]
Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Can someone explain to me why Eminence Front is so loved?? I mean... it is not a BAD song... but still.[/QUOTE]
Because Pete Townsend sings it and the music is borderline funky I think.
Because Pete Townsend sings it and the music is borderline funky I think.
"Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else."
Hmmm..
Not sure how to approach this.
I'm not going to call him an excellent composer, because it's not like Pink Floyd ever did anything outrageous theory wise (though Rick Wright lifted some simple yet clever chord progressions and used them in a good way).
He can't write lyrics. True enough - but to say 'leave the music to someone else' isn't a fair thing to say of someone who composes the solos that he does!!
Of course, if one doesn't like his solos or his songs (Comfortably Numb to name the obvious).. then I guess we'll drop the matter :D
Hmmm..
Not sure how to approach this.
I'm not going to call him an excellent composer, because it's not like Pink Floyd ever did anything outrageous theory wise (though Rick Wright lifted some simple yet clever chord progressions and used them in a good way).
He can't write lyrics. True enough - but to say 'leave the music to someone else' isn't a fair thing to say of someone who composes the solos that he does!!
Of course, if one doesn't like his solos or his songs (Comfortably Numb to name the obvious).. then I guess we'll drop the matter :D
[QUOTE]
Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd.[/QUOTE]
Do you know who wrote Confortably Numb? And I'm not talking about the solo only. CN was a David Gilmour compostion for his solo album that was released a few years after The Wall, but he delivered it to Roger, so that he could find a place for it in the album. Add the (fabulous) lyrics and there you have it. And then there's High Hopes, Marooned, Sorrow etc etc
It's like Zebonka said, it's fair enough to say that he can't write lyrics (he is the first to confirm this), but saying he is not a talented composer, that's being narrow-minded...
Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd.[/QUOTE]
Do you know who wrote Confortably Numb? And I'm not talking about the solo only. CN was a David Gilmour compostion for his solo album that was released a few years after The Wall, but he delivered it to Roger, so that he could find a place for it in the album. Add the (fabulous) lyrics and there you have it. And then there's High Hopes, Marooned, Sorrow etc etc
It's like Zebonka said, it's fair enough to say that he can't write lyrics (he is the first to confirm this), but saying he is not a talented composer, that's being narrow-minded...
I agree with POP being there in place of Zooropa. Zooropa took quite a few listens but it really grew on me. Still not as good as U2's best, but not a bad album really, they were trying to push the envelope but it feels rushed. They recorded and released it while on tour so it didn't get the studio love that Achtung Baby did.
I also agree that Ghost of Tom Joad is a worse album than Human Touch, but Human Touch was bad.
Both Human Touch and Lucky Town had good songs that were really poorly produced and played. Give Bruce a mulligan, pick the 12 best and rerecord those songs with the E-Street band you'd have a classic.
I also agree that Ghost of Tom Joad is a worse album than Human Touch, but Human Touch was bad.
Both Human Touch and Lucky Town had good songs that were really poorly produced and played. Give Bruce a mulligan, pick the 12 best and rerecord those songs with the E-Street band you'd have a classic.