Now that the album is officially released world wide, what are your thoughts on this album?
I bought the actual CD last Saturday, but I've downloaded it about 1 month ago, and still can't get enough of it. It's really a nice mixture of their previous albums. Favorite tracks:
In the presence of enemies pt II
The ministry of lost souls
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I'm obviously going to have to try and find these guys on the internet and do some sampling....
I've never heard their stuff, but so many people here talk about them
I've never heard their stuff, but so many people here talk about them
I really liked 'Octavarium', so I hope Dream Theater brings a new big surprise with this one as well.
Although they are very strong in terms of virtuosity and technical skill, I find that one some of their albums get very boring with the neverending guitar solos and the cliche progressive rock synth sounds that remind me of those old school arcade machines with Pac-Man and Frogger.
I give kudos to Dream Theater whenever they try to experiment with something new, because when they do they do it good, regardless of the fact that some of their fans want more of the same old stuff.
'Falling Into Infinity' was very innovative but yet under appreciated by some of their fanbase for being "different", and some dared to call them "sell outs" for experimenting. I was glad to hear how on 'Octavarium' once again they dared to try something new.
There are times when bands should have enough balls to make the music they want and not the music fans want them to make, so I hope 'Systematic Chaos' sounds different than anything else they've done before.
Although they are very strong in terms of virtuosity and technical skill, I find that one some of their albums get very boring with the neverending guitar solos and the cliche progressive rock synth sounds that remind me of those old school arcade machines with Pac-Man and Frogger.
I give kudos to Dream Theater whenever they try to experiment with something new, because when they do they do it good, regardless of the fact that some of their fans want more of the same old stuff.
'Falling Into Infinity' was very innovative but yet under appreciated by some of their fanbase for being "different", and some dared to call them "sell outs" for experimenting. I was glad to hear how on 'Octavarium' once again they dared to try something new.
There are times when bands should have enough balls to make the music they want and not the music fans want them to make, so I hope 'Systematic Chaos' sounds different than anything else they've done before.
Of course there are some Octavarium kind of influences around on the album, but overall it's way heavier. It's more in the line of Train of Thought in that perspective. It's just better than ToT, because of the different styles in the numbers. It's better worked-out.
I fucking have to like this band, everybody tells me so. I got Scenes From a Memory, but didn't listen to it yet. If I like it, I'll get this new album.
I loved John's solo album. He rules, but Mike rules the universe.
I loved John's solo album. He rules, but Mike rules the universe.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I fucking have to like this band, everybody tells me so. I got Scenes From a Memory, but didn't listen to it yet. If I like it, I'll get this new album.
I loved John's solo album. He rules, but Mike rules the universe.[/QUOTE]
Cause they're soooooo complex? :P
I loved John's solo album. He rules, but Mike rules the universe.[/QUOTE]
Cause they're soooooo complex? :P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I fucking have to like this band, everybody tells me so. I got Scenes From a Memory, but didn't listen to it yet. If I like it, I'll get this new album.
I loved John's solo album. He rules, but Mike rules the universe.[/QUOTE]
Cause they're soooooo complex? :P[/QUOTE]Maybe, I don't really know since the only songs I've heard by them were covers. I know they are kinda progresive, I would like to know how prog they are. I love all that shit, but I see it more as "music for musicians" that something you would hear on the radio. Maybe because I "understand" what they do here and there, so I can kinda apreciate their works from a technical and theorical perspective rather than just listening to the songs. All music should be "analized" like that, which doesn't mean that the more complex it gets, the better it will be but the more work, effort and dedication it involves, the better it will be and it's almost always like that.
But it's always amazing to hear virtuosic complex shit xD
I loved John's solo album. He rules, but Mike rules the universe.[/QUOTE]
Cause they're soooooo complex? :P[/QUOTE]Maybe, I don't really know since the only songs I've heard by them were covers. I know they are kinda progresive, I would like to know how prog they are. I love all that shit, but I see it more as "music for musicians" that something you would hear on the radio. Maybe because I "understand" what they do here and there, so I can kinda apreciate their works from a technical and theorical perspective rather than just listening to the songs. All music should be "analized" like that, which doesn't mean that the more complex it gets, the better it will be but the more work, effort and dedication it involves, the better it will be and it's almost always like that.
But it's always amazing to hear virtuosic complex shit xD
I've seen a DT dvd and as good as it sounds...you know technically and looks decent visually, the music comes across soulless to me.
Fast paced metal with lots of strings and Dickinson-esque vocals in a mix of something that's been done millions of times before.
I appreciate people who can play their instruments and sure it has to be more than just 3 chord blues stuff...but i can't stand a band who has an album full of these types of songs like DT do. The same reason i can't listen to Steve Vai, Satriani n those other show off's.
So kudos to the virtuosity, but i don't get off on it. ;)
Fast paced metal with lots of strings and Dickinson-esque vocals in a mix of something that's been done millions of times before.
I appreciate people who can play their instruments and sure it has to be more than just 3 chord blues stuff...but i can't stand a band who has an album full of these types of songs like DT do. The same reason i can't listen to Steve Vai, Satriani n those other show off's.
So kudos to the virtuosity, but i don't get off on it. ;)
Liquid Tension Experiment is my favorite thing to ever come from the members of Dream Theater. Anyone else a fan?
I don't know LTE too well, but I definitely like the "spin off" band OSI as well.
I think LTE is instrumental only?
I think LTE is instrumental only?
"which doesn't mean that the more complex it gets, the better it will be but the more work, effort and dedication it involves, the better it will be and it's almost always like that."
This is an appalling example that will be poo-poo'd by all because apparently the Beatles are crap musicians;
But Let It Be is a fine case of where more effort would've paid off. Good songs.... lazy album.
This is an appalling example that will be poo-poo'd by all because apparently the Beatles are crap musicians;
But Let It Be is a fine case of where more effort would've paid off. Good songs.... lazy album.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"which doesn't mean that the more complex it gets, the better it will be but the more work, effort and dedication it involves, the better it will be and it's almost always like that."
This is an appalling example that will be poo-poo'd by all because apparently the Beatles are crap musicians;[/QUOTE]Maybe. The fab four's first albums are really shitty with loads of mistakes, yet the songs are so cool and fun. From Revolver to Abbey Road, they really made an enormous difference. Amazing songs with amazing arrangements and amazing performances. Paul is one hell of a singer!
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This is an appalling example that will be poo-poo'd by all because apparently the Beatles are crap musicians;[/QUOTE]Maybe. The fab four's first albums are really shitty with loads of mistakes, yet the songs are so cool and fun. From Revolver to Abbey Road, they really made an enormous difference. Amazing songs with amazing arrangements and amazing performances. Paul is one hell of a singer!
=)
"Maybe. The fab four's first albums are really shitty with loads of mistakes, yet the songs are so cool and fun. From Revolver to Abbey Road, they really made an enormous difference. Amazing songs with amazing arrangements and amazing performances. Paul is one hell of a singer!"
I can definitely get behind that!
I can definitely get behind that!
Can I too?
You Never Give Me Your Money gives me shivers. Down my spine.
I know nothing of Dream Theater. Educate me.
You Never Give Me Your Money gives me shivers. Down my spine.
I know nothing of Dream Theater. Educate me.
First of all, thanks to all who on this board who turned us on to DT years ago.
Maybe it's our age, but we're kinda disappointed with the new release. Lotsa Metallica-ish music, along with the James Hatfield type vocals.
Disk Two of 'Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence' and 'Octavarium' are still a constant listen. And I'll throw on 'Scenes from a Memory' on occasion. This one....well, we'll have to skip over a few tracks.
Still looking forward to seeing them in Baltimore this August.
oh, and, btw, what's the deal with the ants????
Maybe it's our age, but we're kinda disappointed with the new release. Lotsa Metallica-ish music, along with the James Hatfield type vocals.
Disk Two of 'Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence' and 'Octavarium' are still a constant listen. And I'll throw on 'Scenes from a Memory' on occasion. This one....well, we'll have to skip over a few tracks.
Still looking forward to seeing them in Baltimore this August.
oh, and, btw, what's the deal with the ants????