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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]willem-jan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i just listened to some beatles songs and came to the conclusion.. Treasure Moment is a 1000 times better band[/QUOTE]

At least!
I would even dare to say 1408 times better.[/QUOTE]

yeah that might be more accurate actually
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i just listened to some beatles songs and came to the conclusion.. Treasure Moment is a 1000 times better band[/QUOTE]

Head, meet desk. Desk, this is head. I have the feeling you two will get along quite well.
The point is that he doesn't know any other bands.



"I just listened to some Beatles songs"

Is that supposed to mean that he did NOT know the Beatles?

The same when I talked about Valensia. He said that Valensia sucked and didn't even listen to him. He just looked in youtube for the first video he could find and started talking as if he had heard all of Valens' records.


And now he says he's better than the Beatles.



I have nthing but pity to feel for this poor incredibly retarded creature.
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The Beatles did it first, but Queen personally I feel like did it better.

Now, without The Beatles, there wouldn't have been a Queen. The Beatles deserve the credit for building the foundation of rock music from the 1960s until today, and that covers all aspects of the genres that have evolved from rock music including pop, heavy metal, punk, alternative, grunge, progressive, indie , etc.

I can't believe there are Queen fans so blind sighted to not give The Beatles credit for all they achieved.

Brian said it better than anyone else:

"Nobody beats The Beatles, ever".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Brandon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... and now the "best you can offer is Mr. Jingles? HA! He's... just pathetic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Brian said it better than anyone else:

"Nobody beats The Beatles, ever".[/QUOTE]
What? You've not heard of Treasure Moment? ROFLMFAO
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Boy Thomas Raker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]For example, put any Queen rocker from Liar to Dead on Time on the radio today, and it would jump at you. Songs like I want to hold your hand, and Twist and Shout on the other hand, have the sonic force of a popgun comparatively speaking, almost like a transistor radio compared to a full blown stereo system. ;)[/QUOTE]

i take your point. but it ain't about "response"...and the comparison of Liar to I Want To Hold Your Hand is extremely unfair..
try putting queen songs against some beatles rockers..Helter Skelter / Back in The USSR / Rain / Paperback Writer / Tomorrow Never Knows / Get Back / I Me Mine - i their time all excellent rockers and very memorable
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Wow, thanks for all the replies. In particular I enjoyed Sebastian's replies! Most conclusive!

This topic has turned into a direct comparison of Queen and the Beatles. Just to clarify, though, my original post did not ask for this (and I recognise the folly of such a comparison). What I was originlly looking for was respects in which Queen would compare favourably to the Beatles. Why? Frivolous as I said. Just to give my faltering Queen-fan-ego a boost. Reassure myself (and other reluctant, Beatle-obsessed friends) that Queen is a splendid band!

Nonetheless this has been a very interesting discussion. And there are certainly many good points in favour of Queen!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
if they would say the beatles are the best they would be lying just to be nice to that mediocre band. In their hearts they know NOTHING even comes close to Queens talent and amazing songwriting.[/QUOTE]
how can someone with the "supposed talent to write and play songs" - such as yourself...be so imbecilically cretinous and vacuous in the discharge of the fecal matter they eject from their vocal orifice?
you are nothing more than a fekkin gobshite...crawl away and die quietly you stupid c*nt
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
if they would say the beatles are the best they would be lying just to be nice to that mediocre band. In their hearts they know NOTHING even comes close to Queens talent and amazing songwriting.[/QUOTE]
how can someone with the "supposed talent to write and play songs" - such as yourself...be so imbecilically cretinous and vacuous in the discharge of the fecal matter they eject from their vocal orifice?
you are nothing more than a fekkin gobshite...crawl away and die quietly you stupid c*nt[/QUOTE]

your words dont touch me coz i know what im talking about
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=0066FF>? Bad Horsie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The point is that he doesn't know any other bands.



"I just listened to some Beatles songs"

Is that supposed to mean that he did NOT know the Beatles?

The same when I talked about Valensia. He said that Valensia sucked and didn't even listen to him. He just looked in youtube for the first video he could find and started talking as if he had heard all of Valens' records.


And now he says he's better than the Beatles.



I have nthing but pity to feel for this poor incredibly retarded creature.[/QUOTE]

i didnt say valensia sucked as the band valensia, the valensia i meant was YOU. I actually like valensia and find the songs ive heard by them much better than the songs ive heard by the beatles.
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I like Queen better but the Beatles are tops. Lennon-McCartney will be regarded as the best composition partners in the twentieth century. Their body of work is simply stunning.

I see this Atheist guy comparing his crappy band to the Beatles and I want to laugh.

He talks about catchiness. What can be more catchy than Eigth Days a Week, Help, Yellow Submarine and Penny Lane?? Surely not his Final countdown ripoff.

He talks about crappy songs with 3 chords. It's really not about the chords. Eleanor Rigby and Tomorrow Never Knows have 3 chords or less.

He claims to be better than every act shown in MTV when the production of his track is very crappy. Listen to "Welcome to the Black Parade" by My Chemical Romance, an emo band that just happened to make a very good song with many changes. I love that song.

Listen to Grace Kelly by Mika. You can love him or hate him but he surely has more talent than what we can see in the material you've shown to us (in request for approval and craving for recognition and attention).

I'm sure you love winding people up and are probably enjoying this, but I enjoy ranting, so what the hell.

Wiley
When I picked Liar and I want to hold your hand, it was an example of early-in-their-career rock, Brenski. Brian used IWTHYH (which he considers rock and roll BTW) as an example of a song that would make the hair on the back of his neck stand up when he heard the opening chords on the radio. Having said that, I still feel that "size-wise", The Beatles rock and roll pales in comparison to Queen's, as Brian's guitar and Roger's drums dwarf John/George's guitars and Ringo's drumming. It's probably a technology thing with production, but I've always found The Beatles rock stuff to sound very small and dated compared to Queen's.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Boy Thomas Raker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I still feel that "size-wise", The Beatles rock and roll pales in comparison to Queen's, as Brian's guitar and Roger's drums dwarf John/George's guitars and Ringo's drumming. It's probably a technology thing with production, but I've always found The Beatles rock stuff to sound very small and dated compared to Queen's.[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. I first listened to Aerosmith's version of "Come Together" and I remember listening to the original Beatles track and thinking that it sounded a bit soft and lame.

I think that Helter Skelter is the edgiest Beatles track that I've listened to.

Their early rockers have that particular guitar sound that sounds, well, like a guitar that happens to be amplified for recording. Not a lot of distortion and other settings that make it sound different.

Those songs (while great on their own) don't have a "rocking" vibe but a "let's have a good time" vibe. You know?

Wiley
@Sebastian.

Slightly off-topic, though just to touch on your point about Ga Ga/IWTBF being over-rated. I concede, there are well-known Queen songs that may be overrated. IWTBF is very catchy; memorable; a wonderful Deacy composition...but perhaps, not truly remarkable.

As for Radio Ga Ga. I'm probably biased in my assesment because I'm very fond of the song. Nevertheless, I think that the song is powerful. Musically, maybe it's nothing special. Yes, it's just about television becoming more popular than radio, but it's a song where the band has really captured a sentiment: in this case, intense nostalgia. I don't want to retype lyrics but the first and second verse...wow. I'll never forget those words.

(Incidentally, I think that "I'm In Love With My Car" is another such song where the band has masterfully captured a feeling...listening to the song it's so easy to feel Roger's unadulterated love for his car! Sounds like he loves it so much, it hurts! :P)
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Now that you mention it... it's true what you said about Radio Ga Ga capturing a strong nostalgic feeling. I remember it was my first Queen favourite song

=)


Back to when I was like 11.


oh those were the days ^^
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