My very first thought on reading this topic was 'if you can't obsess about him on a Queen forum, then where the hell else can you?!'
However, I do understand the frustrations of people who feel that the other three are overlooked.
As Brenski has already said, dying is the surefire way to cement a legendary status.
I bet Paul and Ringo get questioned about John (and to a lesser extent, George) all the time, the guys from The Doors are no doubt sick to the back teeth of Jim Morrison questions and so it goes on.
The fact that Brian, Roger and John are still with us takes away some of the sentimentality which people sometimes overuse when talking about Freddie.
From what I gather the OP is pissed off because he feels Queen are not given enough acknowledgement as a *group* and Freddie is put on a pedestal. I'm not sure what kind of discussion forum it'd be if we only spoke about them as a unit. All four contributed and no one member was greater than the group as a whole but that doesn't stop us all instinctively favouring one guy over the other three.
I have one question to ask about the original post:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
BUT PLEASE!! The guy has been dead for almost 17 years, don't you think it's time to let it go and move along??!![/QUOTE]
I'm a little confused, 'let it go'..'move along'?...the only way to do that would be to stop mentioning him at all, then it wouldn't be a Queen site per se, it'd be a discussion forum to talk about Brian, Roger, John and sometimes Paul Rodgers.
Perhaps it'd be better to have one section each dedicated to the 4 individual members so people wouldn't get pissed off with too much Freddie adulation?
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i have never seen a freddie and queen fan like atheist,i m a big fan of freddie too,and you must be ashamed of yourself thomasqueen and people like you,freddie is dead he needs real fans,not the fake fans like you and others,real fans like me and atheist will make fredie live forever not the kind fan as you are
[QUOTE]However i have posted a few times saying that Brian is the man behind queen.[/QUOTE]
Completely disagree with you here. I honestly don't think any one member was solely responsible for their success. Yes, even Brian with the Red Special or Freddie as the frontman. Each member was too valuable in their own way for us to attribute Queen's appeal to just one thing. Their wide range of songs was made possible because they had four solid, very different songwriters. Without all of them writing (or with different members), we wouldn't have some of the songs we know and love best! We also wouldn't have some of our favourite beats/riffs/basslines/harmonies that we all love to debate and play or sing along with, people. Don't forget that and don't have the gall to tell me that each member wasn't key to producing those. If you do, put on a good pair of headphones and listen to those songs again for all the little nuances that made Queen our favourite band in the first place.
Completely disagree with you here. I honestly don't think any one member was solely responsible for their success. Yes, even Brian with the Red Special or Freddie as the frontman. Each member was too valuable in their own way for us to attribute Queen's appeal to just one thing. Their wide range of songs was made possible because they had four solid, very different songwriters. Without all of them writing (or with different members), we wouldn't have some of the songs we know and love best! We also wouldn't have some of our favourite beats/riffs/basslines/harmonies that we all love to debate and play or sing along with, people. Don't forget that and don't have the gall to tell me that each member wasn't key to producing those. If you do, put on a good pair of headphones and listen to those songs again for all the little nuances that made Queen our favourite band in the first place.
Judging Freddie's input on the band based solely on 'Mr Bad Guy' is ridiculous: that's the sort of music he was writing at the time. A Freddie Mercury solo record ten years before would have been progressive rock.
IMO they all contributed, and they were all fundamental. That's why IMO Roger + Freddie wouldn't be Queen, Roger + John wouldn't, Freddie + John wouldn't, Freddie + Brian wouldn't, Brian + John wouldn't and, of course, Roger + Brian aren't.
IMO they all contributed, and they were all fundamental. That's why IMO Roger + Freddie wouldn't be Queen, Roger + John wouldn't, Freddie + John wouldn't, Freddie + Brian wouldn't, Brian + John wouldn't and, of course, Roger + Brian aren't.
I nearly puke my guts whenever someone makes those tiresome old comments about how jealous is Brian of all the praise and love Freddie gets from the music press
Mr Jingles,
Freddie never got any praise from the press.
thats why he stopped giving any interviews from about mid seventies.
Brian has often spoke about his admiration for Freddie,as he has done for John,Roger and even Paul.
Me,i love them all.I used to go and see Queen because of their consummation and sheer professionalism on stage.That plus the fact that they were and are still bloody good musicians.
When you went to see Queen you knew you were getting a great gig from even before start to finish,since they played Chopin and Paganini through the P A before the gig started.This was something that Queen insisted on. =)
Mr Jingles,
Freddie never got any praise from the press.
thats why he stopped giving any interviews from about mid seventies.
Brian has often spoke about his admiration for Freddie,as he has done for John,Roger and even Paul.
Me,i love them all.I used to go and see Queen because of their consummation and sheer professionalism on stage.That plus the fact that they were and are still bloody good musicians.
When you went to see Queen you knew you were getting a great gig from even before start to finish,since they played Chopin and Paganini through the P A before the gig started.This was something that Queen insisted on. =)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music forever[/QUOTE]
I thought you didn't believe in god?[/QUOTE]
I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"[/QUOTE]
Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.[/QUOTE]
im not a joke, maybe you are, the least of things you are stupid[/QUOTE]
Then I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are.[/QUOTE]
you are stupid and thats a fact[/QUOTE]
Come on guys.This should be in the Personal post.
I thought you didn't believe in god?[/QUOTE]
I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"[/QUOTE]
Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.[/QUOTE]
im not a joke, maybe you are, the least of things you are stupid[/QUOTE]
Then I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are.[/QUOTE]
you are stupid and thats a fact[/QUOTE]
Come on guys.This should be in the Personal post.
it's no obsession, it's a fact that freddie mercury was queen, and queen without freddie mercury would have never been queen and isn't queen anymore. but queen would also have been queen with another drummer for example.
Uh oh...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music forever[/QUOTE]
Freddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear.
Just stating facts.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was MOZART.
:P
Freddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear.
Just stating facts.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was MOZART.
:P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=6600f>Vishnu.<h6>A Scientist wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music forever[/QUOTE]
Freddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear.
Just stating facts.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was MOZART.
:P[/QUOTE]
That was the OTHER time. Very different motive, by the way.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]J R Deaky wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Come on guys.This should be in the Personal post. [/QUOTE]
It probably shouldn't be on QZ, period.
Freddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear.
Just stating facts.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was MOZART.
:P[/QUOTE]
That was the OTHER time. Very different motive, by the way.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]J R Deaky wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Come on guys.This should be in the Personal post. [/QUOTE]
It probably shouldn't be on QZ, period.
I agree with you, Jingles.
I also agree with THIS:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.[/QUOTE]
I also agree with THIS:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dan Corson VIII: The Zeppo wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I agree with you, Jingles.
I also agree with THIS:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.[/QUOTE]
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I explained this-
the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing.
I also agree with THIS:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.[/QUOTE]
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I explained this-
the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]QueenMercury46 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"Now, by 'obsessed Queen fans' I mean all those who eat, drink, and sleep Queen. They're the ones who have no idea of what else exists or even have no interest in what else exists."
Ok, you can be obsessed with one thing and like other things, too. It's not like the only band I like is Queen. I love a ton of other music, too. Queen is just my absolute favorite. I do have much interest in other things that exist thank you very much! Being obsessed with something isn't really that person's fault. I can't help but have such an extreme fascination for Queen. Almost everyone has some sort of obsession with something, whatever it is. Maybe you just don't get that same feeling.[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not I do understand how you feel. We are all obsessed Queen fans in our own unique way, but there are those who choose to block out any other source of music. They need to open their horizons.[/QUOTE]
Couldn´t agree more...! (read my previous post on this subject) ;)
Ok, you can be obsessed with one thing and like other things, too. It's not like the only band I like is Queen. I love a ton of other music, too. Queen is just my absolute favorite. I do have much interest in other things that exist thank you very much! Being obsessed with something isn't really that person's fault. I can't help but have such an extreme fascination for Queen. Almost everyone has some sort of obsession with something, whatever it is. Maybe you just don't get that same feeling.[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not I do understand how you feel. We are all obsessed Queen fans in our own unique way, but there are those who choose to block out any other source of music. They need to open their horizons.[/QUOTE]
Couldn´t agree more...! (read my previous post on this subject) ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color="sky blue">Roger's Queen wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dan Corson VIII: The Zeppo wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I agree with you, Jingles.
I also agree with THIS:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.[/QUOTE]
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I explained this-
the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing.
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I know what you mean. Allot of girls say the same about me, how how i look and all... yeah what can i say.... But hey, I only have eyes for you. [/QUOTE]
i know its none of my buisness, but what does That mean?
I also agree with THIS:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME].*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]
I explained this-
the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing.
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I know what you mean. Allot of girls say the same about me, how how i look and all... yeah what can i say.... But hey, I only have eyes for you. [/QUOTE]
i know its none of my buisness, but what does That mean?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Judging Freddie's input on the band based solely on 'Mr Bad Guy' is ridiculous: that's the sort of music he was writing at the time. A Freddie Mercury solo record ten years before would have been progressive rock.
IMO they all contributed, and they were all fundamental. That's why IMO Roger + Freddie wouldn't be Queen, Roger + John wouldn't, Freddie + John wouldn't, Freddie + Brian wouldn't, Brian + John wouldn't and, of course, Roger + Brian aren't.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. 100%.
IMO they all contributed, and they were all fundamental. That's why IMO Roger + Freddie wouldn't be Queen, Roger + John wouldn't, Freddie + John wouldn't, Freddie + Brian wouldn't, Brian + John wouldn't and, of course, Roger + Brian aren't.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. 100%.