[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You know, I could've gone on. Danny Miranda is a friend of mine. You didn't even mention that he's currently Blue Oyster Cult's bass player either, and a damn fine one.
Steve Ferrone actually played on Brian May's album. That is not mentioned at all. (Another World) He is also currently the drummer for Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers and has worked with hundreds of pros.
I understand this is a work in progress. But you asked for comments, right?[/QUOTE]
Thanks, we'll add those when we have the time. Please email queenpedia@gmail.com with further comments and corrections.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You know, I could've gone on. Danny Miranda is a friend of mine. You didn't even mention that he's currently Blue Oyster Cult's bass player either, and a damn fine one.[/QUOTE]
That's great. Want to write the page about him?
That's great. Want to write the page about him?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The way you handled your criticism was childish: "WOW YOU CAN READ LINER NOTES!!!!" Nice.[/QUOTE]
Ok, so where did you get that info on Steve Howe?
And apparently you don't read ALL the liner notes. You missed Brian's ANOTHER WORLD. Steve Ferrone didn't just play a show with Brian.
The way you wrote up Steve Howe, Eddie Van Halen, Danny Miranda, and Steve Ferrone was _________. You fill in the blank, Georg.
The insult is that YOU DID COPY THE LINER NOTES. And went no further. Would have taken an extra 10 seconds, maybe, to add "of the band YES" or "of the band VAN HALEN". So what would you call it? Oversight?
Ok, so where did you get that info on Steve Howe?
And apparently you don't read ALL the liner notes. You missed Brian's ANOTHER WORLD. Steve Ferrone didn't just play a show with Brian.
The way you wrote up Steve Howe, Eddie Van Halen, Danny Miranda, and Steve Ferrone was _________. You fill in the blank, Georg.
The insult is that YOU DID COPY THE LINER NOTES. And went no further. Would have taken an extra 10 seconds, maybe, to add "of the band YES" or "of the band VAN HALEN". So what would you call it? Oversight?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I figured your tone could handle my words, but my apologies. You should be the only one to be allowed to be a smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Where did I say that? I didn't. You were a smart ass, so I was a smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Uh, your first comment to me after I made one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]-- we should have started with the real meat by giving Mr. Van Halen a comprehensive biography.[/QUOTE]
You started this game, not me.
Where did I say that? I didn't. You were a smart ass, so I was a smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Uh, your first comment to me after I made one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]-- we should have started with the real meat by giving Mr. Van Halen a comprehensive biography.[/QUOTE]
You started this game, not me.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ok, so where did you get that info on Steve Howe?
And apparently you don't read ALL the liner notes. You missed Brian's ANOTHER WORLD. Steve Ferrone didn't just play a show with Brian.[/QUOTE]
No, but he was mentioned on the Another World album page.
http://www.queenpedia.com/index.php?title=Another_World_%28album%29
Look there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The way you wrote up Steve Howe, Eddie Van Halen, Danny Miranda, and Steve Ferrone was _________. You fill in the blank, Georg.[/QUOTE]
I didn't write any of those articles.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The insult is that YOU DID COPY THE LINER NOTES. And went no further. Would have taken an extra 10 seconds, maybe, to add "of the band YES" or "of the band VAN HALEN". So what would you call it? Oversight?[/QUOTE]
Filler.
You've gone from being critical to downright petty and childish. Pieter has added an obvious note to the site explaining that everything is a work-in-progress. You could have let this go when we mentioned this earlier in this "discussion", but no. We're working as hard as we can on this site, so it's inevitable that some things are going to be left out as we go along. I'm surprised you don't understand that.
And apparently you don't read ALL the liner notes. You missed Brian's ANOTHER WORLD. Steve Ferrone didn't just play a show with Brian.[/QUOTE]
No, but he was mentioned on the Another World album page.
http://www.queenpedia.com/index.php?title=Another_World_%28album%29
Look there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The way you wrote up Steve Howe, Eddie Van Halen, Danny Miranda, and Steve Ferrone was _________. You fill in the blank, Georg.[/QUOTE]
I didn't write any of those articles.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The insult is that YOU DID COPY THE LINER NOTES. And went no further. Would have taken an extra 10 seconds, maybe, to add "of the band YES" or "of the band VAN HALEN". So what would you call it? Oversight?[/QUOTE]
Filler.
You've gone from being critical to downright petty and childish. Pieter has added an obvious note to the site explaining that everything is a work-in-progress. You could have let this go when we mentioned this earlier in this "discussion", but no. We're working as hard as we can on this site, so it's inevitable that some things are going to be left out as we go along. I'm surprised you don't understand that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I figured your tone could handle my words, but my apologies. You should be the only one to be allowed to be a smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Where did I say that? I didn't. You were a smart ass, so I was a smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Uh, your first comment to me after I made one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]-- we should have started with the real meat by giving Mr. Van Halen a comprehensive biography.[/QUOTE]
You started this game, not me.
[/QUOTE]
Oh no I did not, sir. You were the one who threw the "pathetically lazy" insult around. How is your initial "criticism" not a smart ass one, especially that remark about reading liner notes?
Where did I say that? I didn't. You were a smart ass, so I was a smart ass.[/QUOTE]
Uh, your first comment to me after I made one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]-- we should have started with the real meat by giving Mr. Van Halen a comprehensive biography.[/QUOTE]
You started this game, not me.
[/QUOTE]
Oh no I did not, sir. You were the one who threw the "pathetically lazy" insult around. How is your initial "criticism" not a smart ass one, especially that remark about reading liner notes?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]That's great. Want to write the page about him?[/QUOTE]
No, but here's his "official" bio:
Danny Miranda cut his musical teeth in the burgeoning Long Island club scene of the 1980s. In a place known for brutally unforgiving audiences, Danny immediately distinguished himself as a cat with some serious chops – a player who could lay you out with some of the heaviest funk going, and without missing a beat, drop into a slick jazz groove or a thundering rock bass line. Simply stated, Danny made his name as a guy who could play it all – with ease.
Coming up through the ranks in New York, Danny played with some of best and brightest the area had to offer. The list of people he's played with reads like a Who's Who of the New York music set. Early gigs saw him playing with Bobby Rondinelli (Rainbow, Black Sabbath), Al Pitrelli (Megadeth, Alice Cooper, Trans-Siberian Orchestra), and John Miceli (Meat Loaf), as well as a host of others. Paying his dues on the gritty, down and dirty Long Island club circuit, Danny crafted a stage presence and style uniquely his own – and the word got out. This was a guy you had to see live, as he prowled the stage, laying down some of the most wicked grooves ever.
1995 would be a turning point in Danny's career, as he got the call from Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser offering him the gig with the amazing Blue Öyster Cult. As a child of the 70s, and a Long Island native, playing bass in one of the biggest acts to ever come out of New York was almost too good to be true. Danny played
continuously with Blue Öyster Cult from late 1995 until September, 2004, cutting two records (Heaven Forbid, 1998; Curse Of The Hidden Mirror, 2001), and putting out a smoking live DVD (A Long Day's Night) from their 2002 Summer Solstice show in Chicago. Touring with BÖC, playing 100-125 nights each and every year, put Danny in front of thousands of soon-to-be-converted fans. Danny's run with BÖC cranked on until late in 2004, when things would suddenly change.
September, 2004. . . Danny's cell phone rings, and it's John Miceli, asking if Danny would be interested in auditioning for the bass chair in the Las Vegas production of "We Will Rock You." Several phone calls, a few airplane trips between Long Island and Las Vegas, meetings with Brian May and Roger Taylor, and in a matter of days, Danny relocated to Las Vegas to be reunited with John and get to work in WWRY. Things were going well for Danny, and then. . . "The" phone call came in January, 2005. In one of those moments, where you just have to pinch yourself to be certain you're not dreaming, Danny got a call from Brian May asking if Danny would like to play bass on the upcoming Queen + Paul Rodgers tour. Another round of phone calls, a quick relocation to the UK, and Danny is now living the dream of his youth – playing bass with Brian May, Roger Taylor, and Paul Rodgers. Stay tuned for further developments, including a solo album that's still in the works.
Seems things are turning out well for this young guy from the Island. . .
No, but here's his "official" bio:
Danny Miranda cut his musical teeth in the burgeoning Long Island club scene of the 1980s. In a place known for brutally unforgiving audiences, Danny immediately distinguished himself as a cat with some serious chops – a player who could lay you out with some of the heaviest funk going, and without missing a beat, drop into a slick jazz groove or a thundering rock bass line. Simply stated, Danny made his name as a guy who could play it all – with ease.
Coming up through the ranks in New York, Danny played with some of best and brightest the area had to offer. The list of people he's played with reads like a Who's Who of the New York music set. Early gigs saw him playing with Bobby Rondinelli (Rainbow, Black Sabbath), Al Pitrelli (Megadeth, Alice Cooper, Trans-Siberian Orchestra), and John Miceli (Meat Loaf), as well as a host of others. Paying his dues on the gritty, down and dirty Long Island club circuit, Danny crafted a stage presence and style uniquely his own – and the word got out. This was a guy you had to see live, as he prowled the stage, laying down some of the most wicked grooves ever.
1995 would be a turning point in Danny's career, as he got the call from Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser offering him the gig with the amazing Blue Öyster Cult. As a child of the 70s, and a Long Island native, playing bass in one of the biggest acts to ever come out of New York was almost too good to be true. Danny played
continuously with Blue Öyster Cult from late 1995 until September, 2004, cutting two records (Heaven Forbid, 1998; Curse Of The Hidden Mirror, 2001), and putting out a smoking live DVD (A Long Day's Night) from their 2002 Summer Solstice show in Chicago. Touring with BÖC, playing 100-125 nights each and every year, put Danny in front of thousands of soon-to-be-converted fans. Danny's run with BÖC cranked on until late in 2004, when things would suddenly change.
September, 2004. . . Danny's cell phone rings, and it's John Miceli, asking if Danny would be interested in auditioning for the bass chair in the Las Vegas production of "We Will Rock You." Several phone calls, a few airplane trips between Long Island and Las Vegas, meetings with Brian May and Roger Taylor, and in a matter of days, Danny relocated to Las Vegas to be reunited with John and get to work in WWRY. Things were going well for Danny, and then. . . "The" phone call came in January, 2005. In one of those moments, where you just have to pinch yourself to be certain you're not dreaming, Danny got a call from Brian May asking if Danny would like to play bass on the upcoming Queen + Paul Rodgers tour. Another round of phone calls, a quick relocation to the UK, and Danny is now living the dream of his youth – playing bass with Brian May, Roger Taylor, and Paul Rodgers. Stay tuned for further developments, including a solo album that's still in the works.
Seems things are turning out well for this young guy from the Island. . .
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME] How is your initial "criticism" not a smart ass one, especially that remark about reading liner notes?[/QUOTE]
But, that's what you did, right? So it's not an insult. It just pissed you off because I hit the nail on the head.
And I didn't call ANYONE lazy, I called the one-sentence write-up that. You took it as lazy, becuase you probably authored that.
But, that's what you did, right? So it's not an insult. It just pissed you off because I hit the nail on the head.
And I didn't call ANYONE lazy, I called the one-sentence write-up that. You took it as lazy, becuase you probably authored that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME] How is your initial "criticism" not a smart ass one, especially that remark about reading liner notes?[/QUOTE]
But, that's what you did, right?[/QUOTE]
I didn't write the article, though I imagine whoever did was putting that there as a filler sentence, until he or she could take the time to write up something more comprehensive.
But, that's what you did, right?[/QUOTE]
I didn't write the article, though I imagine whoever did was putting that there as a filler sentence, until he or she could take the time to write up something more comprehensive.
Sorry Lester, I hope we're chilling, because I would hate to think that you think I'm just some smart ass looking for problems. I'm not.
I love Queen and everything about them.
But I also think:
1. Steve Howe blows Brian away
2. Steve Ferrone blows Roger away
3. Brian blows Eddie away
So, I thought you were just dismissing all these "other musicians" as inferiors. That's how your bios come off. I understand one sentence for Peter Straker or someone of his caliber. But the same treatment to people who've done a heck of a lot more? C'mon! It would take an extra 5 minutes to do a decent temporary page.
I love Queen and everything about them.
But I also think:
1. Steve Howe blows Brian away
2. Steve Ferrone blows Roger away
3. Brian blows Eddie away
So, I thought you were just dismissing all these "other musicians" as inferiors. That's how your bios come off. I understand one sentence for Peter Straker or someone of his caliber. But the same treatment to people who've done a heck of a lot more? C'mon! It would take an extra 5 minutes to do a decent temporary page.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME] How is your initial "criticism" not a smart ass one, especially that remark about reading liner notes?[/QUOTE]
But, that's what you did, right? So it's not an insult. It just pissed you off because I hit the nail on the head.
And I didn't call ANYONE lazy, I called the one-sentence write-up that. You took it as lazy, becuase you probably authored that.[/QUOTE]
Looks like you edited your comment after I responded.
1. I didn't write any of the articles that you've pointed out. As a matter of fact, I wrote the initial ones about the four band members of Queen, which I took from the defunct Queen Heaven website, though I added a bit to it in order to bring the information up to date.
2. You don't seem to understand what "filler sentence" means. I keep saying it, and you keep conveniently glossing over it. When will you ever acknowledge that?
3. Regarding the lazy comment, it's not clear in your original remark that you were talking about the Steve Howe comment and not about us. That's where the misconception lies.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry Lester, I hope we're chilling, because I would hate to think that you think I'm just some smart ass looking for problems. I'm not.
I love Queen and everything about them.
But I also think:
1. Steve Howe blows Brian away
2. Steve Ferrone blows Roger away
3. Brian blows Eddie away
So, I thought you were just dismissing all these "other musicians" as inferiors. That's how your bios come off. I understand one sentence for Peter Straker or someone of his caliber. But the same treatment to people who've done a heck of a lot more? C'mon! It would take an extra 5 minutes to do a decent temporary page.[/QUOTE]
That's nice. However, as I've stated before, I didn't write those articles. Yes, 5 minutes for a temporary page would be nice, but there are almost 600 articles on Queenpedia, with many many more to come, so 5 minutes for a temporary page is a lot of time, especially considering no one is doing this as our jobs. If I had the time, you can bet I'd be writing up more complete biographies, but my one job for the site -- which is to write up album histories -- has taken me months to do, in between other things I'm doing right now, and I'm nowhere near being done. We're busy people, and we're doing this website because we love Queen, not because we're getting paid to do it. I can only promise you that the website will be constantly and consistently updated whenever we have the time, but when it's the same 2 1/2 people (I count myself as the half because I haven't done nearly as much work as Erin and Pieter) doing all of the work as opposed to letting anybody and everybody come in and edit information, you need to forgive us if we don't get around to writing comprehensive biographies on your favorite musicians.
And please don't interpret that as me being snarky.
But, that's what you did, right? So it's not an insult. It just pissed you off because I hit the nail on the head.
And I didn't call ANYONE lazy, I called the one-sentence write-up that. You took it as lazy, becuase you probably authored that.[/QUOTE]
Looks like you edited your comment after I responded.
1. I didn't write any of the articles that you've pointed out. As a matter of fact, I wrote the initial ones about the four band members of Queen, which I took from the defunct Queen Heaven website, though I added a bit to it in order to bring the information up to date.
2. You don't seem to understand what "filler sentence" means. I keep saying it, and you keep conveniently glossing over it. When will you ever acknowledge that?
3. Regarding the lazy comment, it's not clear in your original remark that you were talking about the Steve Howe comment and not about us. That's where the misconception lies.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry Lester, I hope we're chilling, because I would hate to think that you think I'm just some smart ass looking for problems. I'm not.
I love Queen and everything about them.
But I also think:
1. Steve Howe blows Brian away
2. Steve Ferrone blows Roger away
3. Brian blows Eddie away
So, I thought you were just dismissing all these "other musicians" as inferiors. That's how your bios come off. I understand one sentence for Peter Straker or someone of his caliber. But the same treatment to people who've done a heck of a lot more? C'mon! It would take an extra 5 minutes to do a decent temporary page.[/QUOTE]
That's nice. However, as I've stated before, I didn't write those articles. Yes, 5 minutes for a temporary page would be nice, but there are almost 600 articles on Queenpedia, with many many more to come, so 5 minutes for a temporary page is a lot of time, especially considering no one is doing this as our jobs. If I had the time, you can bet I'd be writing up more complete biographies, but my one job for the site -- which is to write up album histories -- has taken me months to do, in between other things I'm doing right now, and I'm nowhere near being done. We're busy people, and we're doing this website because we love Queen, not because we're getting paid to do it. I can only promise you that the website will be constantly and consistently updated whenever we have the time, but when it's the same 2 1/2 people (I count myself as the half because I haven't done nearly as much work as Erin and Pieter) doing all of the work as opposed to letting anybody and everybody come in and edit information, you need to forgive us if we don't get around to writing comprehensive biographies on your favorite musicians.
And please don't interpret that as me being snarky.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But I also think:
1. Steve Howe blows Brian away
2. Steve Ferrone blows Roger away
3. Brian blows Eddie away
[/QUOTE]
Well, you can think that, but Brian doesn´t blow Eddie away. Either on technique or in feeling.
Eddie is a one of a kind musician. (mind you that this isn´t a question of taste - because Brian is still my favourite guitar player - but whether we like Van Halen better or not, the fact is that the guitarplayer is fantastic. Even Brian is aware if this.
Take care
Take care
1. Steve Howe blows Brian away
2. Steve Ferrone blows Roger away
3. Brian blows Eddie away
[/QUOTE]
Well, you can think that, but Brian doesn´t blow Eddie away. Either on technique or in feeling.
Eddie is a one of a kind musician. (mind you that this isn´t a question of taste - because Brian is still my favourite guitar player - but whether we like Van Halen better or not, the fact is that the guitarplayer is fantastic. Even Brian is aware if this.
Take care
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]2. You don't seem to understand what "filler sentence" means. I keep saying it, and you keep conveniently glossing over it. When will you ever acknowledge that?
[/QUOTE]
Acknowledged. Now I know. And again, my apologies.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
3. Regarding the lazy comment, it's not clear in your original remark that you were talking about the Steve Howe comment and not about us. That's where the misconception lies.
And please don't interpret that as me being snarky.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I guess I could have been clearer on that. It was more of a *ha ha* comment, I didn't think you guys would literally think I'm calling you lazy. As I've said previously, it is a very nice site.
And I don't think of you as "snarky". It's not often that I get a chance to talk to the author of a book I'm currently reading. Thank you for that.
[/QUOTE]
Acknowledged. Now I know. And again, my apologies.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
3. Regarding the lazy comment, it's not clear in your original remark that you were talking about the Steve Howe comment and not about us. That's where the misconception lies.
And please don't interpret that as me being snarky.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I guess I could have been clearer on that. It was more of a *ha ha* comment, I didn't think you guys would literally think I'm calling you lazy. As I've said previously, it is a very nice site.
And I don't think of you as "snarky". It's not often that I get a chance to talk to the author of a book I'm currently reading. Thank you for that.
Some further thought:
Steve Howe is related to Queen in another way, besides Innuendo. Steve was also in the band YES when Queen played the same bill with them.
Eddie also married a TV star who became fat.
(Now that last part was intended to be a little funny, so if you know Anita, or you are Anita, you have no right to get mad at me, fattie.)
Steve Howe is related to Queen in another way, besides Innuendo. Steve was also in the band YES when Queen played the same bill with them.
Eddie also married a TV star who became fat.
(Now that last part was intended to be a little funny, so if you know Anita, or you are Anita, you have no right to get mad at me, fattie.)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]2. You don't seem to understand what "filler sentence" means. I keep saying it, and you keep conveniently glossing over it. When will you ever acknowledge that?
[/QUOTE]
Acknowledged. Now I know. And again, my apologies.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
3. Regarding the lazy comment, it's not clear in your original remark that you were talking about the Steve Howe comment and not about us. That's where the misconception lies.
And please don't interpret that as me being snarky.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I guess I could have been clearer on that. It was more of a *ha ha* comment, I didn't think you guys would literally think I'm calling you lazy. As I've said previously, it is a very nice site.
And I don't think of you as "snarky". It's not often that I get a chance to talk to the author of a book I'm currently reading. Thank you for that.[/QUOTE]
Yer welcome. Sorry for getting a little hot under the collar there, I can only imagine how Greg feels after a day dealing with QZers...
[/QUOTE]
Acknowledged. Now I know. And again, my apologies.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
3. Regarding the lazy comment, it's not clear in your original remark that you were talking about the Steve Howe comment and not about us. That's where the misconception lies.
And please don't interpret that as me being snarky.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I guess I could have been clearer on that. It was more of a *ha ha* comment, I didn't think you guys would literally think I'm calling you lazy. As I've said previously, it is a very nice site.
And I don't think of you as "snarky". It's not often that I get a chance to talk to the author of a book I'm currently reading. Thank you for that.[/QUOTE]
Yer welcome. Sorry for getting a little hot under the collar there, I can only imagine how Greg feels after a day dealing with QZers...