[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Courtesy of the great comedian Denis Leary (No Cure for Cancer)
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Elvis Presley should have been shot in the head back in 1957. Somebody should've walked up behind Elvis in '57 with a 44 magnum, put the barrel of the gun right up to his brain stem and just pulled the trigger, so you can remember Elvis in a nice way. Wouldn't it be nice to remember Elvis thin, with a big head of hair? Maybe that gold lame suit. Wouldn't that be nice? Because how do you remember Elvis? You know how you remember Elvis. He was found in the toilet with his pants around his ankles and his big fat hairy sweaty king of rock and roll ass exposed to the world and his final piece of kingly evidence floating in the toilet behind him! Creepy! One of his aids had to walk in and go, "Damn, Elvis is dead. I'd better flush the toilet. Oh man I should've saved that! I coulda made some money off of that! Damn man! A ding dang do!"[/QUOTE]
What they wrote wasn't nice at all. No matter how much people like to joke about these kind of things.
People have no respect in themselves anymore.
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Elvis was and always will be the King of rock 'n' roll. He may have left this world in 1977, thirty long years ago, but legends like him never die. God rest his soul and I hope he's up there now rocking away with Freddie Mercury and the angels.
The disrespect some people are showing here is outrageous. I suppose you find it funny to mock a man who is no longer here to defend himself. I wonder if you find it as funny when sickos come on here and trash-talk Freddie for being gay and having AIDs. As Freddie fans would be hurt when people insult Freddie, so Elvis fans would definitely be insulted by some of the heartless, insensitive and disgraceful comments posted here by some individuals. They know who they are.
For goodness sakes people, how hard can it be to show respect? Is it too much to ask for in today's society? Or have you forgotten that some people have different music tastes to your own and may and WILL take offence at things you say for the sake of making yourself look big?
The disrespect some people are showing here is outrageous. I suppose you find it funny to mock a man who is no longer here to defend himself. I wonder if you find it as funny when sickos come on here and trash-talk Freddie for being gay and having AIDs. As Freddie fans would be hurt when people insult Freddie, so Elvis fans would definitely be insulted by some of the heartless, insensitive and disgraceful comments posted here by some individuals. They know who they are.
For goodness sakes people, how hard can it be to show respect? Is it too much to ask for in today's society? Or have you forgotten that some people have different music tastes to your own and may and WILL take offence at things you say for the sake of making yourself look big?
There was something magic about Elvis. Even watching an Elvis impersonator is a blast.
When I was little, my Mom (a huge Elvis fan) would let me stay up if an Elvis movie was on - even if I had school the next day. I loved the singing and dancing. He was amazing.
When I was little, my Mom (a huge Elvis fan) would let me stay up if an Elvis movie was on - even if I had school the next day. I loved the singing and dancing. He was amazing.
^hehe, I saw an Elvis impersonator in Cyprus in June and he was brilliant. The spirit of the King truly lives on.
Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has NOT left the building!
Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has NOT left the building!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nathan wrote: [/QUOTENAME].
. I wonder if you find it as funny when sickos come on here and trash-talk Freddie for being gay and having AIDs.
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well,he was and he did so,no,doesnt bother me what people say.
by the time Elvis died he was just a piss-poor parody of himself who couldnt sell a record in a garage/boot sale.
he had to do Vegas as he couldnt leave the country coz Parker was an illegal immigrant and wouldnt be let back in the US if he left the country.if he was alive now he would be as obscure as jerry-lee lewis and little richard and have no relevance to the music business.
he was an average singer that just happened to be in the right place at the right time,just like Madonna.a good showman but nothing much else talent wise.
i doubt if he would get past the first stage of one of these tv talent shows that simon cowell does.
. I wonder if you find it as funny when sickos come on here and trash-talk Freddie for being gay and having AIDs.
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well,he was and he did so,no,doesnt bother me what people say.
by the time Elvis died he was just a piss-poor parody of himself who couldnt sell a record in a garage/boot sale.
he had to do Vegas as he couldnt leave the country coz Parker was an illegal immigrant and wouldnt be let back in the US if he left the country.if he was alive now he would be as obscure as jerry-lee lewis and little richard and have no relevance to the music business.
he was an average singer that just happened to be in the right place at the right time,just like Madonna.a good showman but nothing much else talent wise.
i doubt if he would get past the first stage of one of these tv talent shows that simon cowell does.
I was actually being polite there Mr joxer-whatever. I have actually seen really nasty threads directed at Freddie that were totally uncalled for. Do you remember vivial for example? Would you have a problem with someone saying "Where is he now? BURNING IN HELL!" Totally uncalled for, isn't it? Much like your distasteful comment about Elvis being a "fat twat who died on the toilet". Google Elvis in the 1950s and 1960s and you'll see a very different Elvis to the one you WANT to remember. You WANT to remember Elvis in his later years because you think it's "the thing" to poke fun at a man nearing the end of his life. Same with the final pictures of Freddie. People only want to remember him as the "gay singer who died of AIDs". They don't wish to remember him in his prime.
And did you completely ignore my statement on how you may (and probably will) be offending Elvis fans by your offhand and totally uncalled-for comment? I don't think your comment, and CERTAINLY not HistoryGirl's remarks warrant posting in a thread that does the decent thing of COMMEMORATING Elvis. Have a heart man! Everyone's entitled to their opinions and I don't think this thread was created to bash Elvis.
And did you completely ignore my statement on how you may (and probably will) be offending Elvis fans by your offhand and totally uncalled-for comment? I don't think your comment, and CERTAINLY not HistoryGirl's remarks warrant posting in a thread that does the decent thing of COMMEMORATING Elvis. Have a heart man! Everyone's entitled to their opinions and I don't think this thread was created to bash Elvis.
^ ok,he may of been "cool" in the 50's to kids that had endured their parents de-mob music but his shelf life was very short once the 60's kicked in.he was completely out of his depth musically once the Beatles hit the scene and it was the comeback special in 68 that saved his bacon,financially.
you have to admit that whatever talent he had he wasted and became a laughing stock and a parody by the mid 70's.he died a ridiculous and pathetic death and you have to admit that im right in saying that he couldnt give his records away at the end.someone else stated that his death was the best career move he could of made and i agree.
the irony is the same thing could be said of Lennon who was in exactly the same musical boat when he died.he couldnt buy a hit record either.however being murdered by a nutter in cold blood is another matter for another day.
the same can not be said of Freddie who was still having number one singles and albums up until he died,although, like elvis the lifestyle he chose inevitable brought about his downfall.
i still say that elvis is an over-rated piss-poor karaoke pub singer with limited talent and would not be a success now if he was starting out.
you have to admit that whatever talent he had he wasted and became a laughing stock and a parody by the mid 70's.he died a ridiculous and pathetic death and you have to admit that im right in saying that he couldnt give his records away at the end.someone else stated that his death was the best career move he could of made and i agree.
the irony is the same thing could be said of Lennon who was in exactly the same musical boat when he died.he couldnt buy a hit record either.however being murdered by a nutter in cold blood is another matter for another day.
the same can not be said of Freddie who was still having number one singles and albums up until he died,although, like elvis the lifestyle he chose inevitable brought about his downfall.
i still say that elvis is an over-rated piss-poor karaoke pub singer with limited talent and would not be a success now if he was starting out.
He would not be successful because the masses today want manufactured music by kiddie hopefuls in "talent" shows like the X-Factor.
You're displaying proof again that your attitude is "my way or no way". The people you like are comparable to gods while anyone you don't like, regardless of how many people have differing tastes to you, are down in the gutter. That's not a problem. That's your opinion and I accept it, although I might not agree with it. But why take this opportunity to express your emotions in this manner? It's like going to someone's anniversary memorial and saying: "You know what? This person was a right bastard and he was useless. Screw him!
Alas, people like you are obviously devoid of any respect and I cannot see the point of trying to convince you of that. It's like talking to a brick wall.
You're displaying proof again that your attitude is "my way or no way". The people you like are comparable to gods while anyone you don't like, regardless of how many people have differing tastes to you, are down in the gutter. That's not a problem. That's your opinion and I accept it, although I might not agree with it. But why take this opportunity to express your emotions in this manner? It's like going to someone's anniversary memorial and saying: "You know what? This person was a right bastard and he was useless. Screw him!
Alas, people like you are obviously devoid of any respect and I cannot see the point of trying to convince you of that. It's like talking to a brick wall.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nathan wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He would not be successful because the masses today want manufactured music by kiddie hopefuls in "talent" shows like the X-Factor.
he was the most manufactured "artist" in popular history.
You're displaying proof again that your attitude is "my way or no way".
not at all.i just dont believe the hype surrounding Elvis.
The people you like are comparable to gods while anyone you don't like, regardless of how many people have differing tastes to you, are down in the gutter.
i dont know where you are getting that from.
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he was the most manufactured "artist" in popular history.
You're displaying proof again that your attitude is "my way or no way".
not at all.i just dont believe the hype surrounding Elvis.
The people you like are comparable to gods while anyone you don't like, regardless of how many people have differing tastes to you, are down in the gutter.
i dont know where you are getting that from.
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To just clear something up: What I posted earlier was from a comedian, Mr. Denis Leary. For those of you who are unfamiliar with him, his sense of humor is very much insulting and jeering, and comedians make a living of telling others their opinions...only they do it in a humorous way. I posted it because I was reminded of it by the presence of this thread.
To be honest, I have to agree with Joxer on this one. Elvis was a good performer, and only in the beginning. He couldn't write music or songs for crap, and he spent most of his time making black music acceptable for white people because he could perform it and he was white, and stirring up the censors by shaking his pelvis in public. Once black music became acceptable by the white public, Elvis lost his uniqueness, and was confronted with fading away or adapting. His good looks kept him in the movies for a while, but at the end he wound up in Vegas because he failed to adapt. Nathan, you obviously appear to idolize Elvis, which is fine and your right, but then respect the opinions of those who differ on this matter from you.
Now, to address another flaw in your logic, just because we don't particularly care for Elvis or his music doesn't mean we don't respect the man. What he did broke open the way for modern rock and crossed racial lines, and for that he deserves respect. I feel bad for his death, especially since he killed himself, but there is a limit. He ate, drank and drugged himself into his death, and for that I cannot give him too much pity, as he was confronted with many opportunities to change his ways. Freddie has nothing to do with this discussion at all, but since you brought him up here's the scoop on him: He caused his death by engaging in behavior that exposed himself to AIDS, that's true. But once he had AIDS, there was nothing he could do. He had changed his ways and admitted to his mistakes in the end. Elvis, on the other hand, never apologized or changed his ways.
Sure I respect Elvis for what he did and feel a little sad that he is dead, but there is no need to venerate the man. He's human (just like Freddie, MLK, Ghandi, etc), just like everyone else.
To be honest, I have to agree with Joxer on this one. Elvis was a good performer, and only in the beginning. He couldn't write music or songs for crap, and he spent most of his time making black music acceptable for white people because he could perform it and he was white, and stirring up the censors by shaking his pelvis in public. Once black music became acceptable by the white public, Elvis lost his uniqueness, and was confronted with fading away or adapting. His good looks kept him in the movies for a while, but at the end he wound up in Vegas because he failed to adapt. Nathan, you obviously appear to idolize Elvis, which is fine and your right, but then respect the opinions of those who differ on this matter from you.
Now, to address another flaw in your logic, just because we don't particularly care for Elvis or his music doesn't mean we don't respect the man. What he did broke open the way for modern rock and crossed racial lines, and for that he deserves respect. I feel bad for his death, especially since he killed himself, but there is a limit. He ate, drank and drugged himself into his death, and for that I cannot give him too much pity, as he was confronted with many opportunities to change his ways. Freddie has nothing to do with this discussion at all, but since you brought him up here's the scoop on him: He caused his death by engaging in behavior that exposed himself to AIDS, that's true. But once he had AIDS, there was nothing he could do. He had changed his ways and admitted to his mistakes in the end. Elvis, on the other hand, never apologized or changed his ways.
Sure I respect Elvis for what he did and feel a little sad that he is dead, but there is no need to venerate the man. He's human (just like Freddie, MLK, Ghandi, etc), just like everyone else.
It seems unrightful for anyone to ridicule Elvis Presley on the day he died. It's absolutely snobbish. At any rate, here's to you Elvis! You're still loved and adored, and damn, is that something to be proud of!
I was watching this big ass documentary on Arte yesterday about him made in a style we are all familiar with. Just one big non-chronological mash of footage. But with some nice visual effects though. He did it in the YouTube style. When the credits appeared i wasn't surprised.
It was made by Hannes Rossacher. Lots of people around the world paying tribute and covering Elvis, including Queen, Robbie Williams, Shakira and many more. Shame i tuned in too late to see Queen, but they were shown on the side of the screen so that's why i know they were on the show.
It was made by Hannes Rossacher. Lots of people around the world paying tribute and covering Elvis, including Queen, Robbie Williams, Shakira and many more. Shame i tuned in too late to see Queen, but they were shown on the side of the screen so that's why i know they were on the show.
"Elvis is probably the most overrated musician in history, and that's the truth."
This is probably the most predictable, insular and overrated point of view in music. And that's the truth!
This is probably the most predictable, insular and overrated point of view in music. And that's the truth!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Elvis is probably the most overrated musician in history, and that's the truth.
The man couldn't write songs, he could hardly play the guitar, and his voice was distinctive but nothing awesome. I only give him the props for being a brilliant performer, but aside from that there wasn't anything great about Elvis.
IMO the death of Buddy Holly, Big Bopper, and Ritchie Valence was a far bigger tragedy for music.[/QUOTE]
Jingles, you're a great guy, you know I like you, BUT:
Please refrain from making further musical comments. You do not make sense, you do not have the skill nor the taste to assess musicians, and you get your facts wrong.
The man couldn't write songs, he could hardly play the guitar, and his voice was distinctive but nothing awesome. I only give him the props for being a brilliant performer, but aside from that there wasn't anything great about Elvis.
IMO the death of Buddy Holly, Big Bopper, and Ritchie Valence was a far bigger tragedy for music.[/QUOTE]
Jingles, you're a great guy, you know I like you, BUT:
Please refrain from making further musical comments. You do not make sense, you do not have the skill nor the taste to assess musicians, and you get your facts wrong.
Sorry, but there's a ton of people who deserve far more credit than Elvis does, and that title of "King Of Rock & Roll" is something he certainly does not deserve. Now, if we're talking about media frenzy hype to promote Rock N' Roll, I totally agree that nobody holds a candle to Elvis.
There were a ton of musicians back in the 50s who wrote their own music and built the foundations of what rock music was about to become in the following decades until today. So just because there's a "King Of Rock N' Roll", we should forget about Buddy Holly, Fats Domino, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and all people who actually created the music.
Come to think of it, Elvis was pretty much the "poster boy" of rock n' roll. His rise to fame was built on his image rather than his talent. This became a winning formula among record companies to create teen pop sensations and boy bands. So they decided to put some good looking kids on stage who don't know much about music, but they sure know how to shake it, and then watch the cash flow.
Anybody ever wonder if Elvis would have had the same fate if he was black? After all, he took black music and sold it in a white package.
There were a ton of musicians back in the 50s who wrote their own music and built the foundations of what rock music was about to become in the following decades until today. So just because there's a "King Of Rock N' Roll", we should forget about Buddy Holly, Fats Domino, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and all people who actually created the music.
Come to think of it, Elvis was pretty much the "poster boy" of rock n' roll. His rise to fame was built on his image rather than his talent. This became a winning formula among record companies to create teen pop sensations and boy bands. So they decided to put some good looking kids on stage who don't know much about music, but they sure know how to shake it, and then watch the cash flow.
Anybody ever wonder if Elvis would have had the same fate if he was black? After all, he took black music and sold it in a white package.