he definetly doesnt fit in with queen music, way wrong
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]he definetly doesnt fit in with queen music, way wrong[/QUOTE]
This, from the resident Queen expert.
Maybe they should dig up the guy from Europe and see if he can do it. I think his name was Klaus or Bjorn or something...
This, from the resident Queen expert.
Maybe they should dig up the guy from Europe and see if he can do it. I think his name was Klaus or Bjorn or something...
Paul Rodgers doesn't need to fit in with Queen's music. For as long as I can remember Queen have always experimented with different styles of music. Such as vaudeville, country, opera, glam rock, folk, latin, heavy metal, and the list goes on. So how is this any different? Paul Rodgers is of the 'blues/rock' categorization. This has been yet another step towards diversity in, dare I say, 'Queen's' career. I shun all those whom look upon Queen at this stage in their career and dislike them for it. Queen have neither changed or degraded their legacy. They're expanding their horizons along with upsetting fans, oh my, there's a shocker! Need I remind you all of when Hot Space came out? I think you know what I'm talking about.
Boy Thomas Raker,
Re your letter to Brian.
You will find that it's a very rare beast, the "star" who openly publishes negative fan reactions, ragardless of whether they are reacting in a constructive manner or not.
The gatekeeper (Jen Tunney) has either been instructed to or has singularly chosen to not let Brian see ANYTHING that is not 100% positive. Hence you see Brian replying to letters people send about their dogs wearing Queen t-shirts etc and how wonderful zodiacal light is.
Don't hold your breath for even an acknowledgement of the fact that you've sent a letter to him.
But, if you were to tell him that you saw a message in the zodiacal light which told you to go and see the WWRY musical and that you now think it's the best musical in the world, I'm sure you'll see it posted..........
Re your letter to Brian.
You will find that it's a very rare beast, the "star" who openly publishes negative fan reactions, ragardless of whether they are reacting in a constructive manner or not.
The gatekeeper (Jen Tunney) has either been instructed to or has singularly chosen to not let Brian see ANYTHING that is not 100% positive. Hence you see Brian replying to letters people send about their dogs wearing Queen t-shirts etc and how wonderful zodiacal light is.
Don't hold your breath for even an acknowledgement of the fact that you've sent a letter to him.
But, if you were to tell him that you saw a message in the zodiacal light which told you to go and see the WWRY musical and that you now think it's the best musical in the world, I'm sure you'll see it posted..........
I agree 100% with you Benn. And again, I was interested in Brian's thoughts because I think that my views and those of scores of fans are pretty moderate, meaning people who'd like to see new music from Brian and Roger, and have no issues with Paul Rodgers as singer or front man. When Garik states "I think a creative person will not stick to one line for many years... He/she MUST try different paths, open different doors. I pay my deep respects to...musicians who are not scared of new ideas, challenges, tests", he's making an argument FOR Brian and Roger to try something new, outside of the safety of the Queen umbrella. Because there is nothing easier than having a fan base that is established. If Brian truly believes that they're making a new chapter, why wouldn't you choose a new name?
The bottom line for me is that Queen were four people, who created a unique catalog due to the input from all four. For others, it could be a revolving door of musicians from this point forward. I look at it this way. Brian May is a better guitarist than John Lennon and George Harrison combined, but if Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr got Brian and Nuno Bettencourt, my favourite two musicians ever, to take the guitar spots of George and John on tour next year, it sure as hell wouldn't be the Beatles, and there wouldn't be a soul on god's green earth who'd call that lineup the Beatles.
The bottom line for me is that Queen were four people, who created a unique catalog due to the input from all four. For others, it could be a revolving door of musicians from this point forward. I look at it this way. Brian May is a better guitarist than John Lennon and George Harrison combined, but if Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr got Brian and Nuno Bettencourt, my favourite two musicians ever, to take the guitar spots of George and John on tour next year, it sure as hell wouldn't be the Beatles, and there wouldn't be a soul on god's green earth who'd call that lineup the Beatles.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Boy Thomas Raker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Brian May is a better guitarist than John Lennon and George Harrison combined[/QUOTE]
whoa.... slow down there partner.
whoa.... slow down there partner.
Microwave, you can't really believe that either of them are in Brina's league as players, do you?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Paul Rodgers doesn't need to fit in with Queen's music. For as long as I can remember Queen have always experimented with different styles of music. Such as vaudeville, country, opera, glam rock, folk, latin, heavy metal, and the list goes on. So how is this any different? Paul Rodgers is of the 'blues/rock' categorization. This has been yet another step towards diversity in, dare I say, 'Queen's' career. I shun all those whom look upon Queen at this stage in their career and dislike them for it. Queen have neither changed or degraded their legacy. They're expanding their horizons along with upsetting fans, oh my, there's a shocker! Need I remind you all of when Hot Space came out? I think you know what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you. Personally, I think Paul is doing very well. He has an excellent voice. As you and several people have posted before, he adds a blues-rock feel to Queen songs. Though no one can replace Freddie, I believe Brian and Roger have the right to keep making music, with whomever they wish.
You certainly do have a point, there, and, I do feel a bit of a squirm for it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Paul Rodgers doesn't need to fit in with Queen's music. For as long as I can remember Queen have always experimented with different styles of music. Such as vaudeville, country, opera, glam rock, folk, latin, heavy metal, and the list goes on. So how is this any different? Paul Rodgers is of the 'blues/rock' categorization. This has been yet another step towards diversity in, dare I say, 'Queen's' career. I shun all those whom look upon Queen at this stage in their career and dislike them for it. Queen have neither changed or degraded their legacy. They're expanding their horizons along with upsetting fans, oh my, there's a shocker! Need I remind you all of when Hot Space came out? I think you know what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Paul Rodgers doesn't need to fit in with Queen's music. For as long as I can remember Queen have always experimented with different styles of music. Such as vaudeville, country, opera, glam rock, folk, latin, heavy metal, and the list goes on. So how is this any different? Paul Rodgers is of the 'blues/rock' categorization. This has been yet another step towards diversity in, dare I say, 'Queen's' career. I shun all those whom look upon Queen at this stage in their career and dislike them for it. Queen have neither changed or degraded their legacy. They're expanding their horizons along with upsetting fans, oh my, there's a shocker! Need I remind you all of when Hot Space came out? I think you know what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Boy Thomas Raker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Microwave, you can't really believe that either of them are in Brina's league as players, do you?[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me? We're talking about history makers here. I don't believe I've ever heard John or George play chord style with the treble boosted so high it even makes Carlos say "Wow, that's high". So could John or George play the Bohemian solo better? Maybe not.
But look at John's catalog with and after The Beatles. Find a song that Brian wrote that you could put in the same league as Imagine. You can't.
Plus we heard Brian play Imagine recently. I'm sure he had some time to learn it and later rehearse it. No offense, but not even close. The Casino was a guitar that was pretty much tailored to John. As far as I know, only 1000 guitars were ever made tailored to Brian. I mean real guitars.
Who copies Brian's licks? I mean besides Queen fans. John Lennon is on about page 3 or 4 in Guitar 101. Every guitar player has learned a Lennon tune. I don't think you could say the same for Brian.
And George? Let's take a look at who cites him as an influence. Dylan. Hendrix. Petty. Vaughan. Robben Ford. Satriani. Vai. I don't think those guys put Brian in that same league either. Plus, I don't know if Brian can play a Sitar as well as George. Give me a song where Brian has recorded himself playing a Sitar.
Are you kidding me? We're talking about history makers here. I don't believe I've ever heard John or George play chord style with the treble boosted so high it even makes Carlos say "Wow, that's high". So could John or George play the Bohemian solo better? Maybe not.
But look at John's catalog with and after The Beatles. Find a song that Brian wrote that you could put in the same league as Imagine. You can't.
Plus we heard Brian play Imagine recently. I'm sure he had some time to learn it and later rehearse it. No offense, but not even close. The Casino was a guitar that was pretty much tailored to John. As far as I know, only 1000 guitars were ever made tailored to Brian. I mean real guitars.
Who copies Brian's licks? I mean besides Queen fans. John Lennon is on about page 3 or 4 in Guitar 101. Every guitar player has learned a Lennon tune. I don't think you could say the same for Brian.
And George? Let's take a look at who cites him as an influence. Dylan. Hendrix. Petty. Vaughan. Robben Ford. Satriani. Vai. I don't think those guys put Brian in that same league either. Plus, I don't know if Brian can play a Sitar as well as George. Give me a song where Brian has recorded himself playing a Sitar.
"Find a song that Brian wrote that you could put in the same league as Imagine. You can't."
Not disputing their talents as writers. I think I can safely say Brian could easily play all of the Beatles catalogue, including Paul's stuff. I'd be shocked (especially now!), if John or George could play the solo from Dead on Time, It's Late or any of Brian's trickier stuff. That's not a knock against them, it's the fact that music changed and Brian was more of a hard rock guitarist than either of them.
"Who copies Brian's licks?"
Tons of people. No one copies his signature style because anybody who layers guitars (see Tom Scholtz of Boston) is immediately compared to Brian May. He's made his trademark HIS, something John and George never did.
"And George? Let's take a look at who cites him as an influence. Dylan. Hendrix. Petty. Vaughan. Robben Ford. Satriani. Vai. I don't think those guys put Brian in that same league either."
You're a fan so I know you know who Brian has influenced, including Kurt Cobain as seen on Brian's soapbox today.
Different strokes for different folks, all great players, I just think that George and John couldn't play some of Brian's faster, rockier stuff as nothing in the Beatles catalogue or solo stuff shows that side of them.
Not disputing their talents as writers. I think I can safely say Brian could easily play all of the Beatles catalogue, including Paul's stuff. I'd be shocked (especially now!), if John or George could play the solo from Dead on Time, It's Late or any of Brian's trickier stuff. That's not a knock against them, it's the fact that music changed and Brian was more of a hard rock guitarist than either of them.
"Who copies Brian's licks?"
Tons of people. No one copies his signature style because anybody who layers guitars (see Tom Scholtz of Boston) is immediately compared to Brian May. He's made his trademark HIS, something John and George never did.
"And George? Let's take a look at who cites him as an influence. Dylan. Hendrix. Petty. Vaughan. Robben Ford. Satriani. Vai. I don't think those guys put Brian in that same league either."
You're a fan so I know you know who Brian has influenced, including Kurt Cobain as seen on Brian's soapbox today.
Different strokes for different folks, all great players, I just think that George and John couldn't play some of Brian's faster, rockier stuff as nothing in the Beatles catalogue or solo stuff shows that side of them.
Is Brian as good songwriter as John Lennon? No.
Is Brian an important musical figure in the same league as John Lennon? No.
Did Brian influence contemporary music as much as John Lennon? No.
Is Brian a more respected/admired musician than John Lennon? No.
Are Brian's lyrics as immortal as John Lennon's? No.
Are Bran's tunes as frequently covered and practised as John Lennon's? No.
Is Brian a better painter than John Lennon was? No.
Is Brian a better harmonica player than John Lennon was? No.
Was Brian's influence on Lennon bigger than Lennon's influence on May? No.
BUT...
...none of the above statements contradict the following:
Is Brian a much better guitarist than John Lennon? Yes.
And we can make a similar one with George. Oh, and by the way:
> We're talking about history makers here.
Actually not: we're talking about who's a better guitarist. And in that case, only the ability to play guitar is what matters, not if they were/are geniuses at songwriting (which Lennon and Harrison obviously were), if they were influential, if their music is better known, etc.
> Find a song that Brian wrote that you could put in the same league as Imagine. You can't.
True, but irrelevant to this discussion. It's like defending John for his Scouser accent.
> Every guitar player has learned a Lennon tune. I don't think you could say the same for Brian.
True, but irrelevant.
> And George? Let's take a look at who cites him as an influence. Dylan. Hendrix. Petty. Vaughan. Robben Ford. Satriani. Vai. I don't think those guys put Brian in that same league either.
Probably true, but irrelevant. Hank Marvin was an influence for Brian, but Brian's obviously better (when it comes to guitar-playing). Likewise, IMO, Nuno's much better than Brian, although the latter influenced him and is one of his heroes.
> Plus, I don't know if Brian can play a Sitar as well as George.
True, but irrelevant.
> Give me a song where Brian has recorded himself playing a Sitar.
For that matter we could say "give me a song where George has recorded himself a multi-tracked choir like the one Brian did in 'Resurrection'", or "give me a song where George recorded a piano solo like the one in 'All Dead'". And again, it'd be irrelevant when it comes to comparing them as guitar players.
Is Brian an important musical figure in the same league as John Lennon? No.
Did Brian influence contemporary music as much as John Lennon? No.
Is Brian a more respected/admired musician than John Lennon? No.
Are Brian's lyrics as immortal as John Lennon's? No.
Are Bran's tunes as frequently covered and practised as John Lennon's? No.
Is Brian a better painter than John Lennon was? No.
Is Brian a better harmonica player than John Lennon was? No.
Was Brian's influence on Lennon bigger than Lennon's influence on May? No.
BUT...
...none of the above statements contradict the following:
Is Brian a much better guitarist than John Lennon? Yes.
And we can make a similar one with George. Oh, and by the way:
> We're talking about history makers here.
Actually not: we're talking about who's a better guitarist. And in that case, only the ability to play guitar is what matters, not if they were/are geniuses at songwriting (which Lennon and Harrison obviously were), if they were influential, if their music is better known, etc.
> Find a song that Brian wrote that you could put in the same league as Imagine. You can't.
True, but irrelevant to this discussion. It's like defending John for his Scouser accent.
> Every guitar player has learned a Lennon tune. I don't think you could say the same for Brian.
True, but irrelevant.
> And George? Let's take a look at who cites him as an influence. Dylan. Hendrix. Petty. Vaughan. Robben Ford. Satriani. Vai. I don't think those guys put Brian in that same league either.
Probably true, but irrelevant. Hank Marvin was an influence for Brian, but Brian's obviously better (when it comes to guitar-playing). Likewise, IMO, Nuno's much better than Brian, although the latter influenced him and is one of his heroes.
> Plus, I don't know if Brian can play a Sitar as well as George.
True, but irrelevant.
> Give me a song where Brian has recorded himself playing a Sitar.
For that matter we could say "give me a song where George has recorded himself a multi-tracked choir like the one Brian did in 'Resurrection'", or "give me a song where George recorded a piano solo like the one in 'All Dead'". And again, it'd be irrelevant when it comes to comparing them as guitar players.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]For that matter we could say "give me a song where George has recorded himself a multi-tracked choir ...[/QUOTE]
Not exactly a multi tracked choir but George recorded a nice multi tracked slide guitar part in Give Me Love(Give Me Peace on Earth)
I give George a nod over Brian as a slide guitar player.
Over all they are so drastically different and I hate comparing musicians like it is a quantifiable competition.
As for the original topic. I like Paul Rodgers and think he does a fine job on many Queen songs as well as being very good in his own catalogue.
Not exactly a multi tracked choir but George recorded a nice multi tracked slide guitar part in Give Me Love(Give Me Peace on Earth)
I give George a nod over Brian as a slide guitar player.
Over all they are so drastically different and I hate comparing musicians like it is a quantifiable competition.
As for the original topic. I like Paul Rodgers and think he does a fine job on many Queen songs as well as being very good in his own catalogue.
Yes, indeed George was much better at slide. Quite an underrated singer too.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Paul Rodgers doesn't need to fit in with Queen's music. For as long as I can remember Queen have always experimented with different styles of music. Such as vaudeville, country, opera, glam rock, folk, latin, heavy metal, and the list goes on. So how is this any different? Paul Rodgers is of the 'blues/rock' categorization. This has been yet another step towards diversity in, dare I say, 'Queen's' career. I shun all those whom look upon Queen at this stage in their career and dislike them for it. Queen have neither changed or degraded their legacy. They're expanding their horizons along with upsetting fans, oh my, there's a shocker! Need I remind you all of when Hot Space came out? I think you know what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]
paul rodgers way of singing just doesnt fit in, he doesnt sing in time, he sings odd time, dont know how to explain it but it just doesnt fit in.
Besides, there is no queen without freddie,thats impossible, they should just do some other project coz no one sees this as queen anyways
paul rodgers way of singing just doesnt fit in, he doesnt sing in time, he sings odd time, dont know how to explain it but it just doesnt fit in.
Besides, there is no queen without freddie,thats impossible, they should just do some other project coz no one sees this as queen anyways