[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MDNA wrote: [/QUOTENAME]no need to attack me like that.[/QUOTE]
It's not an attack, it's a general amazement of the lengths people will go to to defend what they feel is "right" even when there is nothing substantial to back their viewpoint.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MDNA wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The brazilian DVD is not a pirate, it was probably licensed by the copyright owners of the recording, who where not Queen or QP.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry to break this to you, but there are no officially licensed Brazil-only dvd releases of hundreds of music videos available in eBay for €5 each... They are nothing more than pirated, counterfeited copies which are sold to unsuspecting people who are desperate to get anything on dvd.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MDNA wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I was just guiving my oppinion on this release, if you don't like it please ignore it and leave it at that.
Like I said, it all comes down to a matter of taste, even Brian says on the comentary that the original release was too dark, wich is probably why they chose to brighten the picture. I personaly like it as it is, If you don't like it, fine, dont buy it.[/QUOTE]
I would genuinely have loved to ignore your post, but I just can't leave you with the impression that your comparison has any validity whatsoever.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I'm sorry to break this to you, but there are no officially licensed Brazil-only dvd releases of hundreds of music videos available in eBay for €5 each... They are nothing more than pirated, counterfeited copies which are sold to unsuspecting people who are desperate to get anything on dvd.
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I didn't buy it on e-bay, I don't buy DVd's online. I bought it on a well respected store here in Portugal not known for selling bootlegs.
I remember i picked it up at the time because it was at discount price and because the other official release was not available here, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.
this is the one I have by the way: http://991.com/buy/productinformation.aspx?StockNumber=242704
If you didn't mean to attack me then you shouldn't have quoted me.
I only wanted to state my oppinion on the finished product and to say if it met my expectations, not to defend QP on any extent.
They don't need my help to defend their choices.
Like I stated before, I believe in the end it all comes down to a matter of taste. maybe my personal taste is more in acordance with what QP and Queen envisioned to be the best representation of this show, but I'm not saying I couldn't change my oppinion if I watched the 2001 release.
If you find such comments not useful for yourself then simply ignore them. there are 5 pages of coments on this thread, I'm sure some of them will be of interest to you.
I'm sorry to break this to you, but there are no officially licensed Brazil-only dvd releases of hundreds of music videos available in eBay for €5 each... They are nothing more than pirated, counterfeited copies which are sold to unsuspecting people who are desperate to get anything on dvd.
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I didn't buy it on e-bay, I don't buy DVd's online. I bought it on a well respected store here in Portugal not known for selling bootlegs.
I remember i picked it up at the time because it was at discount price and because the other official release was not available here, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.
this is the one I have by the way: http://991.com/buy/productinformation.aspx?StockNumber=242704
If you didn't mean to attack me then you shouldn't have quoted me.
I only wanted to state my oppinion on the finished product and to say if it met my expectations, not to defend QP on any extent.
They don't need my help to defend their choices.
Like I stated before, I believe in the end it all comes down to a matter of taste. maybe my personal taste is more in acordance with what QP and Queen envisioned to be the best representation of this show, but I'm not saying I couldn't change my oppinion if I watched the 2001 release.
If you find such comments not useful for yourself then simply ignore them. there are 5 pages of coments on this thread, I'm sure some of them will be of interest to you.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MDNA wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I didn't buy it on e-bay, I don't buy DVd's online. I bought it on a well respected store here in Portugal not known for selling bootlegs.
I remember i picked it up at the time because it was at discount price and because the other official release was not available here, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.[/QUOTE]
Have you noticed some of the other recent threads around here?
"I didn't realise the Final Live in Japan released by Masterplan was unofficial."
"I bought it from a reputable store."
"The box says licensed from Queen Film, so it must be genuine."
These companies make their living by making dodgy copies which some stores will buy by accident, or because they are simply looking for a quick profit. Even HMV is known for selling bootleg cds next to the real ones.
Baby you've been had.
I didn't buy it on e-bay, I don't buy DVd's online. I bought it on a well respected store here in Portugal not known for selling bootlegs.
I remember i picked it up at the time because it was at discount price and because the other official release was not available here, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.[/QUOTE]
Have you noticed some of the other recent threads around here?
"I didn't realise the Final Live in Japan released by Masterplan was unofficial."
"I bought it from a reputable store."
"The box says licensed from Queen Film, so it must be genuine."
These companies make their living by making dodgy copies which some stores will buy by accident, or because they are simply looking for a quick profit. Even HMV is known for selling bootleg cds next to the real ones.
Baby you've been had.
hi, I´m new here ..., but look at this
http://queen.musichall.cz/forum/forum.php?mt=9&topicid=2116 .... the pictures there .... The picture quality of QRM is worse !
http://queen.musichall.cz/forum/forum.php?mt=9&topicid=2116 .... the pictures there .... The picture quality of QRM is worse !
It's interesting to see the comparisons in picture here and on that link. And while I definitely see why some are not happy with the RM version, I'm caught between them.
On one hand, I like the coloured filters stuff on the RM one, but not 100% of the time.
I like the partially denoised nature of the RM version. However, I think that maybe that is one of the things that has softened the image of the RM version and taken away some sharpness.
I like the sound of the RM version, but sometimes remember the WWRY mix because I could hear some of Brian's guitar better. More defined and smooth at times.
Well, it surely is a mixed bag in that sense, isn't it? I think we're lucky to have both and should be happy with either version. I like what the RM version was trying to do because it has a look. The WWRY version also has a very plain stripped down (kind of) look that I also like. They're both different to each other and I like that.
So, finally, I'd say I'm happy that both are on the market and I can enjoy either one whenever I want. If there are peeps out there that don't have the WWRY version and want it, get it on ebay!
Adam.
On one hand, I like the coloured filters stuff on the RM one, but not 100% of the time.
I like the partially denoised nature of the RM version. However, I think that maybe that is one of the things that has softened the image of the RM version and taken away some sharpness.
I like the sound of the RM version, but sometimes remember the WWRY mix because I could hear some of Brian's guitar better. More defined and smooth at times.
Well, it surely is a mixed bag in that sense, isn't it? I think we're lucky to have both and should be happy with either version. I like what the RM version was trying to do because it has a look. The WWRY version also has a very plain stripped down (kind of) look that I also like. They're both different to each other and I like that.
So, finally, I'd say I'm happy that both are on the market and I can enjoy either one whenever I want. If there are peeps out there that don't have the WWRY version and want it, get it on ebay!
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MDNA wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The 2001 release is not available here in Portugal, at least I never saw it available.[/QUOTE]
they where dozens available of the 2001 edition copies on the Fnac stores. because that DVD was an import from USA, only Fnac add them, as far as i know
they where dozens available of the 2001 edition copies on the Fnac stores. because that DVD was an import from USA, only Fnac add them, as far as i know
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Girl with the Golden Pants wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Visually it's the worst DVD version so far. The 2001 version was flawless, perfect, clear, perfectly color graded. This one has been run through a filter (as stated on Brian's site) which results in a flat, overly-smooth, unlife-like visual mess. The colors are often way off, overdone... ugh.. I can't complain enough about this transfer. It's bloody awful. As for the "new" surround mix, it's unexciting as many live shows are. The 2001 version was vibrant and exciting, raw and real. This one is frequently all-front with just some synth effects mixed to the rear. Quite a disappointment. The commentary is so-so. The boys sound tired and totally not into it most of the time. Haha, I really don't have much nice to say about this. The Live Aid footage is no better than the previous DVD version and is still missing the humorous intro (I thought they'd at least find and restore that! Nope!). The Live Aid rehearsal/interview finally solves the mystery of where some documentary footage originated, which is frequently used (silently) in unofficial documentary DVDs. Nice to have that with sound now, I guess. The PM Magazine bit is poor quality, short and features the tiniest little interview snippets. I can't recommend this except to say if you can find it super-cheap as I did (11.99) pick it up just to have something "new" to buy. If you've avoided the show previously, get the 2001 version before it's long gone![/QUOTE]
I came back to this thread some weeks after my post, and I see thatA.B.calls me a moan-zoner, I didn´t hnow about the other thread.
I hope, I can still post my opinion here:
This is the very first official release, which I am not going to buy immediatly. In fact I will wait until it´s on Ebay for 1 Euro.
What I read here about this DVD, tells me that I am not so wrong.
I remember an interview with Roger Taylor, in which he said that he never loved this concert, because of its coldness, even the audience realizes those mass of cameras all around, the crowd is so damned quiet!
In one of the previous DVDs is a bonus interview ( or was it the 4th commentary audio track?) its said that also Brian was angry, because he couldn´t move on the stage, like he wanted to...So why this release, when they don´t like it?
Can it be, that in the end,its all because of the money?
I came back to this thread some weeks after my post, and I see thatA.B.calls me a moan-zoner, I didn´t hnow about the other thread.
I hope, I can still post my opinion here:
This is the very first official release, which I am not going to buy immediatly. In fact I will wait until it´s on Ebay for 1 Euro.
What I read here about this DVD, tells me that I am not so wrong.
I remember an interview with Roger Taylor, in which he said that he never loved this concert, because of its coldness, even the audience realizes those mass of cameras all around, the crowd is so damned quiet!
In one of the previous DVDs is a bonus interview ( or was it the 4th commentary audio track?) its said that also Brian was angry, because he couldn´t move on the stage, like he wanted to...So why this release, when they don´t like it?
Can it be, that in the end,its all because of the money?
Heh. I love the comparison. I think it's clearly (or unclearly) more than just brightness. The new one is too smooth/flat and turns out looking blurred in the caps.
I'm 99% certain it has to do with a filtration process which Brian mentioned on his site.. supposed to remove dirt, specks, whatever. Well whatever they used in 2001 sure worked excellent because that version was perfect visually. I suppose to make it a total 'restoration' they had to go back and totally redo the thing.. but they chose the wrong method.
It's sad because the HD/Blu-Ray probably would have looked absolutely stunning if they'd used the 2001 HD master ;)
I'm sorry but Queen Productions have a long history of technical flubs in their products and their DVD material has certainly been no exception.
Perhaps their need to own everything and do everything themselves is why these things happen. They simply aren't equipped to prepare things properly. And someone makes the wrong decision most of the time.
frank39: Yep, money and greed... and control. If something is being sold as a Queen product and it's popular, as this show is.. they can't stand having no control over it. They claim it's because of quality issues but that's obviously bullshit. Brian said he hated the audio mix on the 2001.. so what do Queen release? A boring old 4 channel version.. might as well be fucking Dolby Surround. Degrade the picture and reduce the audio channels, then it's officially Queen-owned. I better shut up cuz I'm getting myself upset ;)
I'm 99% certain it has to do with a filtration process which Brian mentioned on his site.. supposed to remove dirt, specks, whatever. Well whatever they used in 2001 sure worked excellent because that version was perfect visually. I suppose to make it a total 'restoration' they had to go back and totally redo the thing.. but they chose the wrong method.
It's sad because the HD/Blu-Ray probably would have looked absolutely stunning if they'd used the 2001 HD master ;)
I'm sorry but Queen Productions have a long history of technical flubs in their products and their DVD material has certainly been no exception.
Perhaps their need to own everything and do everything themselves is why these things happen. They simply aren't equipped to prepare things properly. And someone makes the wrong decision most of the time.
frank39: Yep, money and greed... and control. If something is being sold as a Queen product and it's popular, as this show is.. they can't stand having no control over it. They claim it's because of quality issues but that's obviously bullshit. Brian said he hated the audio mix on the 2001.. so what do Queen release? A boring old 4 channel version.. might as well be fucking Dolby Surround. Degrade the picture and reduce the audio channels, then it's officially Queen-owned. I better shut up cuz I'm getting myself upset ;)
One question from me (final ?) .... my second reply to QRM DVD .... why the QP Ltd. guys cut 50 % of visuals from the God Save The Queen final part of gig .... On WWRY dvd (2001) I see 33 seconds of movie there which can´t be seen on QRM dvd (sorry for my english).....