I think the Gorilla in the Cadbury's advert beats them all!
On a serious note hmm... it would be tough as they are both v diff, I'd say they were about the same.
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though it pains me collins in terms of "technic"
Phil
Phil Collins going away. Phil brought a lot of complex rythems into his work and live he was on another planet.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME] .....ASSDUDE...... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ANAGRAMER wrote: [/QUOTENAME]when it comes to arranging drums appropriately to each indiviual song...[/QUOTE]
Subdivisions and Firth Of Fifth have better drum arrangements than any Queen song.
As much I love Queen for being a band that arranges great songs overall, and as much as Roger has his distinctive sound, there is no way he is a better player/arranger than Phil or Peart.
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well thats your opinion, I still think Roger T from Queen is numero Uno. [/QUOTE]
haha...defenitely! I have to agree!
Subdivisions and Firth Of Fifth have better drum arrangements than any Queen song.
As much I love Queen for being a band that arranges great songs overall, and as much as Roger has his distinctive sound, there is no way he is a better player/arranger than Phil or Peart.
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well thats your opinion, I still think Roger T from Queen is numero Uno. [/QUOTE]
haha...defenitely! I have to agree!
Omg rogr is lyk soo cute so i pick him lolz!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Omg rogr is lyk soo cute so i pick him lolz![/QUOTE]
lol wow...yeah that's not why I think he's the best...if that comment was meant for me lol. if not...then ok.
lol wow...yeah that's not why I think he's the best...if that comment was meant for me lol. if not...then ok.
I'd be interested to hear some drummers chime in here, because this seems to be an obvious answer.
But in terms of "over the years", I would say that Roger has let it slip in recent years. Phil still is the man when it comes to time signatures, song-crafting, etc. Plus, he is clearly more pocket than Roger. Roger always pushes, which isn't a bad thing. In fact, for Queen, that was very much needed.
But in terms of "over the years", I would say that Roger has let it slip in recent years. Phil still is the man when it comes to time signatures, song-crafting, etc. Plus, he is clearly more pocket than Roger. Roger always pushes, which isn't a bad thing. In fact, for Queen, that was very much needed.
roger is a very good drummer, but phil still has the edge. Neil Pert on the other hand blows roger talyor out of the water, it's not even close.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Phil Collins isnt so much a drummer,more a jazz/rock percussionist and so therefore differs slightly from Roger.Thats why Phil plays all those peculiar time signatures like 9/8 and 16/9 for example....and he's left handed too.[/QUOTE]
16/9?
LMAO!
Here's a hint next time you want to sound impressive:
The second number in a time signature must always be an even number.
As far as the question?
Phil Collins without a doubt.
He's quite an extraordinary drummer.
Listen to the last album they did with Peter Gabriel; The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
It's chock full of tasty drumming.
He plays stuff that Roger could never really pull off frankly.
Like playing very musical and fluid in odd time signatures.
16/9?
LMAO!
Here's a hint next time you want to sound impressive:
The second number in a time signature must always be an even number.
As far as the question?
Phil Collins without a doubt.
He's quite an extraordinary drummer.
Listen to the last album they did with Peter Gabriel; The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
It's chock full of tasty drumming.
He plays stuff that Roger could never really pull off frankly.
Like playing very musical and fluid in odd time signatures.
Roger may not have the chops of Phil Collins / Neil Peart but he is most certainly a better MUSICIAN than Neil Peart (the original one-trick pony!)
Love em both, but Phil gets the prize.
I think I ranted long enough in the other thread though about this, hehe.
I think I ranted long enough in the other thread though about this, hehe.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ANAGRAMER wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Roger may not have the chops of Phil Collins / Neil Peart but he is most certainly a better MUSICIAN than Neil Peart (the original one-trick pony!)[/QUOTE]
You do know that Neil Peart has written almost every song on Rush's albums between 1974 and 2007, right? I really don't think that's much of a one-trick pony...
You do know that Neil Peart has written almost every song on Rush's albums between 1974 and 2007, right? I really don't think that's much of a one-trick pony...
I look at it this way, and I know I'm going to probably get a lot of critisim for it, but I think Roger really has a natural talent for the drums. Now I know a lot of people are going to say, "No, he worked his way up to the drums and he played guitar." Well, whatever the case may be, he still has amazing talent. I mean...I know that people are into Tommy Lee from Motley Crue and stuff, but let's be real here, he's not that great of a drummer. I mean if you look at him, all he really does is pound down like a complete animal, compared to Roger who has a natural, effortless talent that allows him to go across the drums nicely and get a great sound. I don't know...that's my opinion. I don't see what everyone else does, but I'd definitely place him in front of Tommy any day. As for Phil Collins, yes he's an excellent drummer, but Roger has always caught my attention with his drumming style. The guy definitely has talent so for all of you that say..so and so blows him out of the water, c'mon give the guy his props. He plays the shit out of those drums. Watch Live at the Rainbow...Milton Keynes...Live in Montreal...Wembley. He's amazing.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lester Burnham wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ANAGRAMER wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Roger may not have the chops of Phil Collins / Neil Peart but he is most certainly a better MUSICIAN than Neil Peart (the original one-trick pony!)[/QUOTE]
You do know that Neil Peart has written almost every song on Rush's albums between 1974 and 2007, right? I really don't think that's much of a one-trick pony...[/QUOTE]
I've decided I'll let the kids have their fun. It's actually entertaining, watching people who aren't musicians rate people on their musical ability. That's like me rating a carpenter's woodworking skills, a judge's knowledge of the law, or a proctologist's use of a dildo.
You do know that Neil Peart has written almost every song on Rush's albums between 1974 and 2007, right? I really don't think that's much of a one-trick pony...[/QUOTE]
I've decided I'll let the kids have their fun. It's actually entertaining, watching people who aren't musicians rate people on their musical ability. That's like me rating a carpenter's woodworking skills, a judge's knowledge of the law, or a proctologist's use of a dildo.