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I'm wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes while hitting the end of this thread - thanks for the hilarious read!
Greg Brooks = the Comic Book guy.
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]

John looks more like Disco Stu with the [i]Ga Ga[/i] hair. Who's Hans Moleman?
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Jim Beach?
anita dobson is the crazy cat lady
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Hahahaha @ comic book guy and Hans !
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Fred's Krusty and Sideshow Bri always hated him because he was just a second in command. Roger's either Mel (dog with a bone) or Cletus (horny and peasant), John's either Lovejoy (though his wife [i]is[/i] Catholic) or Fall-Out Boy, Spike and Jamie are Lenny and Carl, Danny's Chief Wiggum, John Reid's Willie, Brian's son is Ralph, Anita's Edna, Crystal and Ratty are Kang and Kodos.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
Queen were a bat cave. Freddie was almost always a stalagmite, though in the early 70's and on a few drunken occasions in the 80's  he was a stalactite, if you know what I mean. ;) Either way, he looked stunning but he wasn't holding the ceiling up all by himself.  Roger and John were naughty bats, and Brian was the big haired spelunker in the wild tourist shirt trying to make them all stay still still for a picture picture.
Brian was Batman (he's a scientist!), Roger was Robbin, Fred was the Arab butler (Al-Fred) and John was the Penguin. Roy was Catwoman and Bowie was the Joker. Elton John looks a bit like the Riddler.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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That was recorded in 1972.  Freddie could have been influenced by Brian and/or Roger as early as 1969, as he was a FAN of Smile.

I see the point you're trying to make, but it's baseless.  It's your opinion, and nothing more.  If all the members of Queen have emphatically stated numerous times that they were each 25% of the equation, then that's what it is.
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]

Fred's Krusty and Sideshow Bri always hated him because he was just a second in command. Roger's either Mel (dog with a bone) or Cletus (horny and peasant), John's either Lovejoy (though his wife [i]is[/i] Catholic) or Fall-Out Boy, Spike and Jamie are Lenny and Carl, Danny's Chief Wiggum, John Reid's Willie, Brian's son is Ralph, Anita's Edna, Crystal and Ratty are Kang and Kodos.[/QUOTE]
And Paul Rodgers is guest of the week.
PR is hired to play in the Springfield rock band. In the end, he can't cope with the Springfieldians' peasantry so he hastily leaves town.
The people of Springfield gather in the City Hall and decide unanimously to pretend that Paul Rodgers never existed.
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That was recorded in 1972.  Freddie could have been influenced by Brian and/or Roger as early as 1969, as he was a FAN of Smile.

I see the point you're trying to make, but it's baseless.  It's your opinion, and nothing more.  If all the members of Queen have emphatically stated numerous times that they were each 25% of the equation, then that's what it is.



 



 



 

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No - they don't own the definition of 25%. That's what they agreed to say, and that's (probably, we can't know for sure) how they felt, but it doesn't mean anybody thinking one of them was more important is absolutely wrong.

Were the four of them vital? Yes
Were the four of them crucial? Yes

But... of course they were not equal. If all the members of Queen have emphatically stated numerous times that they were each 25% of the equation, then that's their opinion, and nothing more; each of us has all the right to agree or disagree with it. And how can you prove they simply weren't being polite? Or are we supposed to believe Fred's 'I dress to kill' quote and regard him as a murderer?

PS: [i]My Fairy King [/i]influenced by Brian and Roger? Sure... it's virtually a [i]Blag[/i] rip-off - especially the ending progression, typical 60's Roger: a piano virtuoso with fluency on halfdiminished chords and non-square phrasing. Right...
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
I just realized Bohemian Rhapsody and The March of the Black Queen weren't written by Freddie. They're Brian and Roger's, it's just that they felt pity for that poor talentless cunt and they decided to give away his songs, to make Freddie look more talented. But it's all Brian and Roger's.

Actually, Roger wrote crappy songs to make the others seem better. But he's the one who secretly arranges all the backing vocals. You see, he's not just as good as Freddie, he is more humble too.
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How can you say that?

Brian and Roger can NOT lie or make mistakes. If they say each one was 25%, then that's it. So, if I say I can fly, then that's it, because I know me and I know I can fly, nobody else can have a different opinion.

Truth is: I can say I can fly, and it doesn't make it right; Roger, Brian, John and Fred can say each one was 25% and it doesn't make it right.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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But... of course they were not equal. If all the members of Queen have emphatically stated numerous times that they were each 25% of the equation, then that's their opinion, and nothing more; each of us has all the right to agree or disagree with it. And how can you prove they simply weren't being polite? Or are we supposed to believe Fred's 'I dress to kill' quote and regard him as a murderer?





























































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































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"I dress to kill" is just a saying, and is never stated literally.  On the other hand, asserting that all four band members are equal is not just a saying.  It's a statement of what they each thought the group was.  It's a poor argument tactic to use something unrelated to the subject at hand to prove your point.

[QUOTE]Truth is: I can say I can fly, and it doesn't make it right; Roger, Brian, John and Fred can say each one was 25% and it doesn't make it right.[/QUOTE]
Flying is impossible, while four band members being equal isn't.  This poor tactic of yours disguised as logic simply shows that your argument doesn't stand up well enough on its own, and it also reveals your desperation to further an agenda of yours - diminishing the impact of the other band members on the final product that was Queen, and vilifying Brian and Roger at every opportunity.  You should ask yourself why these things are so important to you...

[QUOTE]PS: My Fairy King influenced by Brian and Roger? Sure... it's virtually a Blag rip-off - especially the ending progression, typical 60's Roger: a piano virtuoso with fluency on halfdiminished chords and non-square phrasing. Right...[/QUOTE]
To demean my argument you picked the one Smile tune that's least similar to My Fairy King.  You really are missing the point.  I'll try again...

All I am suggesting is that the band members could have influenced each other in any way at any point along the way, everything from writing to the final mixdown.  It's what happens when you have a band unit, especially a band where all the members are strong songwriters with strong personalities and strong musical philosophies.  There is no way you'll ever be able to prove that suggestion wrong, so I don't know why you guys keep trying.  It's futile.  A Night At The Opera says 'Produced by Roy Thomas Baker and Queen,' not 'Produced by Roy Thomas Baker and Freddie Mercury.' There's a reason for it.

You can calculate what each member physically contributed to a record, but you can't calculate the chemistry the band members had together and how much they influenced each other consciously and sub-consciously from day one right through to the end.
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"You can calculate what each member physically contributed to a record, but you can't calculate the chemistry the band members had together and how much they influenced each other consciously and sub-consciously from day one right through to the end."
[/QUOTE]Sebastian, as someone who vehemently opposed Queen & Paul Rodgers, surely you see the merit in what Sir GH says.[/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]And Sir GH, as someone who was for Queen & Paul Rodgers, surely you can see that the chemistry that the original line-up could never be recreated in a million years, and that people like Sebastian (and I) or at least I never bought that lineup as it was contrived compared to what Queen had as FOUR members with strong personalities.  [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]Extreme's greatest hits collection is called "An accidental collection of atoms."  That's what Queen were.  The sum of the parts, a once in a lifetime grouping that needed all four people to succeed.  Freddie and Brian were certainly dominant, but we'll never know if Freddie could have written Bohemian Rhapsody if the finances, spearheaded by John Deacon within the band, weren't set straight at the time of ANATO.  If Nikki Sixx were the bassist and money earmarked for recording was going to strippers and coke, maybe Freddie wouldn't have had the nerve to create Bo Rhap due to lack of recording money.[/QUOTE]