[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I bet more people showed up because they thought they might get something free from Oprah or a T-shirt. I guarantee you a few of them felt underneath their seat for a key to a new car or something!!!
Maybe they could get that guy who wrote that book that turned out to be all lies to be their Secretary of State.[/QUOTE]
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I watched the 12 longest minutes of this day on YouTube: Oprah Winfrey campaigning for Obama without making a single politically relevant statement. Not once did she say: vote for Obama because he will introduce stem cell research or something - all she did was praising the guy like he was the Messiah. I wonder how people with more than 2 brain cells can stand such totally stupid and senseless campaigning.
well seeing as im not american and im 14 i dont know much but I do have some grasp of this and my family lives in the US orf A and all i can say is....
Thank bloody God Bush is going
Thank bloody God Bush is going
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]EllieTheQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Thank bloody God Bush is going [/QUOTE]
Ditto - though it's eight years too late.
Thank bloody God Bush is going [/QUOTE]
Ditto - though it's eight years too late.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The prophet's song wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Oprah holds one hell of an influence over a lot of people.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but "those people" aren't gonna vote. Too bad Obamba doesn't realize that.
But then he really hasn't been "those people" for a long time now.[/QUOTE]
Ah well, if anything it's generated publicity. I just read Clinton has Madonna on board, what are your views on that?
Yes, but "those people" aren't gonna vote. Too bad Obamba doesn't realize that.
But then he really hasn't been "those people" for a long time now.[/QUOTE]
Ah well, if anything it's generated publicity. I just read Clinton has Madonna on board, what are your views on that?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The prophet's song wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ah well, if anything it's generated publicity. I just read Clinton has Madonna on board, what are your views on that? [/QUOTE]
Well, if they make a video or a slutty coffee table book, then I'm changing my vote to Hilary.
I'm sure Madonna is a political adept, with all the education she's been thru over the years. Are you kidding me??!!?? She also has Gennifer Flowers on board (source: CNN), so all these women who would #$@! to get ahead are backing Hilary. What does that tell me about Hilary? That she'd probably @#$! me too!!!
Why can't we have a "hot" as a first lady or president?
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/12/12/002.html
Well, if they make a video or a slutty coffee table book, then I'm changing my vote to Hilary.
I'm sure Madonna is a political adept, with all the education she's been thru over the years. Are you kidding me??!!?? She also has Gennifer Flowers on board (source: CNN), so all these women who would #$@! to get ahead are backing Hilary. What does that tell me about Hilary? That she'd probably @#$! me too!!!
Why can't we have a "hot" as a first lady or president?
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/12/12/002.html
If I was running for President and Madonna was endorsing me I'd tell her to fuck off by praising George W. Bush's ban on gay marriage.
Well, fortunately it's looking like I may have been wrong. But that's a good thing. BTW your smileys made part of my post disappear and they didn't show.
Jeffrey!!!!!!!!!
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Well, fortunately it's looking like I may have been wrong. But that's a good thing. BTW your smileys made part of my post disappear and they didn't show.
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JEFFREY BABY!!!!!!!!
*hugs you* =)
[b]Deacon Fan wrote: [/b]
Well, fortunately it's looking like I may have been wrong. But that's a good thing. BTW your smileys made part of my post disappear and they didn't show.
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JEFFREY BABY!!!!!!!!
*hugs you* =)
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
Not that I have the attention span for intelligent political conversation, but I'll make this observation about 'voters', using my own country as an example.
A televised debate between the two candidates in our last federal election features a real-time 'worm' at the screen bottom, that jumped up and down depending on peoples approval of what was being said by either candidate.
And what do you know? The 'new' guy (as opposed to our leader of 11 years) consistently got much higher approval - EVEN WHEN HE HADN'T SAID ANYTHING YET.
People voted him in overwhelmingly, for the simple reason that he wasn't the other guy. Voters are, by and large, complete morons.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of sheep-like voters followed whatever Oprah said. Fools, the lot of them...
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lol the funny thing is most often the non voters are the insulted and discriminated ones, when half the time those people who are ranting on about how stupid the non voters are are are only voting for their side because of half truths and extremities.
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
Not that I have the attention span for intelligent political conversation, but I'll make this observation about 'voters', using my own country as an example.
A televised debate between the two candidates in our last federal election features a real-time 'worm' at the screen bottom, that jumped up and down depending on peoples approval of what was being said by either candidate.
And what do you know? The 'new' guy (as opposed to our leader of 11 years) consistently got much higher approval - EVEN WHEN HE HADN'T SAID ANYTHING YET.
People voted him in overwhelmingly, for the simple reason that he wasn't the other guy. Voters are, by and large, complete morons.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of sheep-like voters followed whatever Oprah said. Fools, the lot of them...
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lol the funny thing is most often the non voters are the insulted and discriminated ones, when half the time those people who are ranting on about how stupid the non voters are are are only voting for their side because of half truths and extremities.
Chances of McCain winning seem slim---Not to mention that the Iowa Carcass Caucuses have already said Obama will win.
I HOPE I'M WRONG
I HOPE I'M WRONG
I wouldn't underestimate the voters. I think most are more savvy than you would guess. Of course, the crowd always cheers at a rally, but I don't think they believe 100% of it. They are just trying to get everyone excited and up. I thought it was funny to see a little girl at a McCain rally (probably about age 7 or so) cheer when McCain was talking about a procedure to help people who otherwise would go through foreclosure. I'm sure that little girl had no idea why everyone was cheering, but she went along with the crowd. (Those people standing behind the candidates are kind of distracting, aren't they? Especially when they are rubbing their nose, looking around self consciously, giggling, etc.)
Yes, there are dumb people out there but even dumb people know what they want (using their instincts and gut feelings). Ha. And there is complete equality with voting. That is what is fun about the election. I think we have two pretty good candidates, so I don't think there is any reason to be upset. Obama will be leaving his far left ideas behind (my guess) and McCain was never such a "good" Republican - so both I think would be capable of listening to the majority of moderate (not so crazy) Americans. And I think what we will see in terms of leadership in the presidency will be much better than the icky stuff of the campaigns. I guess I am pretty hopeful about that.
Another interesting aspect to this election (which is why I can't wait for Tuesday) is that many people will not answer a poll truthfully, so there is no telling who will win each state. And apparently a 3 or 4 percent difference in the polls now is considered statistically too close to call.
Yes, there are dumb people out there but even dumb people know what they want (using their instincts and gut feelings). Ha. And there is complete equality with voting. That is what is fun about the election. I think we have two pretty good candidates, so I don't think there is any reason to be upset. Obama will be leaving his far left ideas behind (my guess) and McCain was never such a "good" Republican - so both I think would be capable of listening to the majority of moderate (not so crazy) Americans. And I think what we will see in terms of leadership in the presidency will be much better than the icky stuff of the campaigns. I guess I am pretty hopeful about that.
Another interesting aspect to this election (which is why I can't wait for Tuesday) is that many people will not answer a poll truthfully, so there is no telling who will win each state. And apparently a 3 or 4 percent difference in the polls now is considered statistically too close to call.
Obama's [i]far left[/i] views? Are you by any chance out of your damn skull? Even his most progressive ideas are no more radical than a centrist politician in any European party that is either liberal or social-democrat would propose. As for McCain, I can see him re-starting the cold war much like Bush did, if only to deal with some old enmities (Russia, Vietnam, N. Korea, Cuba), which would be highly counter-productive. He likes to make it sound like Obama will walk up to every "evil emperor" and ask him what he'd like for Christmas, but serious discussions on a basis of American strength like Obama proposes are sure to be much more productive than McCain's own vision of staunch militarist rhetoric and provocation.
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[b]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/b]
Obama's [i]far left[/i] views? [/QUOTE]
Obama is considered far left because of how far 'right 'this country has been for the past eight years.
[b]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/b]
Obama's [i]far left[/i] views? [/QUOTE]
Obama is considered far left because of how far 'right 'this country has been for the past eight years.