Some people don't take into consideration that Freddie was actually a baritone. That's why he wasn't able to hit those high notes in concert and that's why he often cracked when trying to reach them.
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Freddie was a great live singer. When he was at his best he was really impressive. Here's a list of my favourite shows
-Newcastle 4/12/79
-Hammy'79
-Milton keynes official release
-Queen rock montreal
-Tokyo 9/5/85
-Brussels 24/8/84
-Buenos Aires 8/3/81
-Puebla 17/10/81
-many others:-)
BUT he couldn't sing the songs like he did in the studio. He always pushed his voice to the limit and it was obviously too much to take for his voice in a live concert.He sang really careful, always making sure his voice would not crack.
Even the most fanatic Freddie addicts will agree with me that freddie had some really weak shows(japan'79,ouch!, japan'82watch the video.) and sometimes entire periods(live killers tour is actually not too good) in which his voice was not there. He could compensate it with passion at times but not always. He was always a great entertainer but not always a great singer live.
I'm a great Zeppelin fan too and people here should listen to plant in the years 68-72. He sings with much more variation,power and range than freddie. Altough I prefer freddie as overall singer(he's my favourite singer of all!), as live vocalist Plant is better. But since I'm such a big fan of freddie, this is something I only say to other Queen fans:-)So do'nt stone me;-)
-Newcastle 4/12/79
-Hammy'79
-Milton keynes official release
-Queen rock montreal
-Tokyo 9/5/85
-Brussels 24/8/84
-Buenos Aires 8/3/81
-Puebla 17/10/81
-many others:-)
BUT he couldn't sing the songs like he did in the studio. He always pushed his voice to the limit and it was obviously too much to take for his voice in a live concert.He sang really careful, always making sure his voice would not crack.
Even the most fanatic Freddie addicts will agree with me that freddie had some really weak shows(japan'79,ouch!, japan'82watch the video.) and sometimes entire periods(live killers tour is actually not too good) in which his voice was not there. He could compensate it with passion at times but not always. He was always a great entertainer but not always a great singer live.
I'm a great Zeppelin fan too and people here should listen to plant in the years 68-72. He sings with much more variation,power and range than freddie. Altough I prefer freddie as overall singer(he's my favourite singer of all!), as live vocalist Plant is better. But since I'm such a big fan of freddie, this is something I only say to other Queen fans:-)So do'nt stone me;-)
I will not stone you, however, I WILL disagree with this portion of your post. I am also a Zep fan, however, I cannot agree that Plant sang with more power, range variation than Freddie.[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]on my way up wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I'm a great Zeppelin fan too and people here should listen to plant in the years 68-72. He sings with much more variation,power and range than freddie. Altough I prefer freddie as overall singer(he's my favourite singer of all!), as live vocalist Plant is better. But since I'm such a big fan of freddie, this is something I only say to other Queen fans:-)So do'nt stone me;-)[/QUOTE]
The thing is, Robert Plant is a good singer. But he's not even 10% of what he was in his golden years.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The thing is, Robert Plant is a good singer. But he's not even 10% of what he was in his golden years.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. I was referring to his golden days:-)
No question he is/was a good singer. It is just that I would not say he has more power and range than Freddie. I would say that he has more power and range than...Roger Daltrey, or, Steven Tyler, but, definitely not Freddie. [QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The thing is, Robert Plant is a good singer. But he's not even 10% of what he was in his golden years.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dusta wrote: [/QUOTENAME]No question he is/was a good singer. It is just that I would not say he has more power and range than Freddie. I would say that he has more power and range than...Roger Daltrey, or, Steven Tyler, but, definitely not Freddie. [QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The thing is, Robert Plant is a good singer. But he's not even 10% of what he was in his golden years.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
If we're comparing '70s Freddie to '69 Robert Plant, then Robert Plant wins, if you want to talk about power & range.
However, my feeling is that if 86-89 Freddie had more than caught up by then. "Was It All Worth It" and "Gimme the Prize" come to mind.
However, notice that Freddie never could do high shrieking falsetto like Roger Taylor, Robert Plant, Ian Gillan (or Ted Neeley, for that matter!).
Even Freddie had his weak areas! But of course, don't tell that to the 'RIP QUEEN 1991' crowd....
If we're comparing '70s Freddie to '69 Robert Plant, then Robert Plant wins, if you want to talk about power & range.
However, my feeling is that if 86-89 Freddie had more than caught up by then. "Was It All Worth It" and "Gimme the Prize" come to mind.
However, notice that Freddie never could do high shrieking falsetto like Roger Taylor, Robert Plant, Ian Gillan (or Ted Neeley, for that matter!).
Even Freddie had his weak areas! But of course, don't tell that to the 'RIP QUEEN 1991' crowd....
PS. If we're talking purely about power, I don't think many white guys can hold a candle to Roger Daltrey, least of all Freddie.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS. If we're talking purely about power, I don't think many white guys can hold a candle to Roger Daltrey, least of all Freddie.[/QUOTE]
Duuuuude your talkin out of ur ass....
Duuuuude your talkin out of ur ass....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS. If we're talking purely about power, I don't think many white guys can hold a candle to Roger Daltrey, least of all Freddie.[/QUOTE]
I think Gillan in the begining of 70s was close
I think Gillan in the begining of 70s was close
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS. If we're talking purely about power, I don't think many white guys can hold a candle to Roger Daltrey, least of all Freddie.[/QUOTE]
Duuuuude your talkin out of ur ass....
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I was going to engage in a discussion with you, but then I saw your signature.
Duuuuude your talkin out of ur ass....
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I was going to engage in a discussion with you, but then I saw your signature.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS. If we're talking purely about power, I don't think many white guys can hold a candle to Roger Daltrey, least of all Freddie.[/QUOTE]
Duuuuude your talkin out of ur ass....
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I was going to engage in a discussion with you, but then I saw your signature.[/QUOTE]
I was too , then i saw how stupid you sounded...
Saying freddie aint close in power to anyone is plain stupidity.
Duuuuude your talkin out of ur ass....
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I was going to engage in a discussion with you, but then I saw your signature.[/QUOTE]
I was too , then i saw how stupid you sounded...
Saying freddie aint close in power to anyone is plain stupidity.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The thing is, Robert Plant is a good singer. But he's not even 10% of what he was in his golden years.[/QUOTE]
That depends on what you want. I actually kind of like the deeper, more mature voice that Plant has nowadays. A reviewer here in Sweden claimed that Plant has never sounded as good as on his latest album with Alison Krauss. I don't really agree with that, but there's no question he's still a fantastic singer.
That depends on what you want. I actually kind of like the deeper, more mature voice that Plant has nowadays. A reviewer here in Sweden claimed that Plant has never sounded as good as on his latest album with Alison Krauss. I don't really agree with that, but there's no question he's still a fantastic singer.
"Saying freddie aint close in power to anyone is plain stupidity."
I didn't say 'anyone'. I said Roger Daltrey.
Freddie had a voice that was capable of delicate things and rough things.
As I said earlier (you were probably too busy drooling to notice) Freddie's voice gained a huge amount of power in the 80's. In the 70's, his voice was simply not as powerful as someone like Roger Daltrey.
You don't seem to have much of an understanding about the idea of checks and balances, here... not many singers can do 'everything'. Both Roger Daltrey and Freddie Mercury were basically incapable of that high shrieking I was talking about earlier in the thread. And when you come down to it, Roger Daltrey really wasn't that great a 'singer'... he was INCREDIBLY powerful, and an amazing interpreter of Townshend's lyrics, but if you talk about the 'fiddly' bits of singing, he was not that great at all.
As opposed to Freddie Mercury, who had oodles of control over his instrument.
Checks and balances, man... Freddie could not 'do it all'. He was just very, very, very, very, very, very.... very good. Probably my favourite singer, for the range of things he COULD do. That still doesn't mean he can do everything.
*Immigrant Song '86*.
In spite of myself I've tried to have an intelligent conversation with a member of Treasure Moment. I've got $50 going on what kind of response I'm likely to get.
I didn't say 'anyone'. I said Roger Daltrey.
Freddie had a voice that was capable of delicate things and rough things.
As I said earlier (you were probably too busy drooling to notice) Freddie's voice gained a huge amount of power in the 80's. In the 70's, his voice was simply not as powerful as someone like Roger Daltrey.
You don't seem to have much of an understanding about the idea of checks and balances, here... not many singers can do 'everything'. Both Roger Daltrey and Freddie Mercury were basically incapable of that high shrieking I was talking about earlier in the thread. And when you come down to it, Roger Daltrey really wasn't that great a 'singer'... he was INCREDIBLY powerful, and an amazing interpreter of Townshend's lyrics, but if you talk about the 'fiddly' bits of singing, he was not that great at all.
As opposed to Freddie Mercury, who had oodles of control over his instrument.
Checks and balances, man... Freddie could not 'do it all'. He was just very, very, very, very, very, very.... very good. Probably my favourite singer, for the range of things he COULD do. That still doesn't mean he can do everything.
*Immigrant Song '86*.
In spite of myself I've tried to have an intelligent conversation with a member of Treasure Moment. I've got $50 going on what kind of response I'm likely to get.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]artemismoon wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Some people don't take into consideration that Freddie was actually a baritone. That's why he wasn't able to hit those high notes in concert and that's why he often cracked when trying to reach them.[/QUOTE]
Ah fuck it, Freddie was no baritone. There's no fucking way a baritone can reach those notes.
Freddie was obviously an exception. He was either a tenor with an ability to go very low (IGSM), or a baritone who could go really fucking high.
Ah fuck it, Freddie was no baritone. There's no fucking way a baritone can reach those notes.
Freddie was obviously an exception. He was either a tenor with an ability to go very low (IGSM), or a baritone who could go really fucking high.