[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fredswife wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I actually thought this was a four-page long thread discussing the tour. Silly me![/QUOTE]
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
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I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fredswife wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I actually thought this was a four-page long thread discussing the tour. Silly me![/QUOTE]
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
[/QUOTE]
I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone expect this to be a topic about Q+PR tour? It wouldn't be at this section of the forum in that case, would it?
In my opinion, as long as the upcoming live performances are discussed as a QUEEN topic instead of a Q+PR topic, It deserves all the shit it gets. :)
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
[/QUOTE]
I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone expect this to be a topic about Q+PR tour? It wouldn't be at this section of the forum in that case, would it?
In my opinion, as long as the upcoming live performances are discussed as a QUEEN topic instead of a Q+PR topic, It deserves all the shit it gets. :)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Regor wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just imagine. Two friends are founding members of a group, that has already been going for about 2 years. Then 2 talented young men join - one of them happens to have an idea for a good new name - and the band keeps going.[/QUOTE]
That's not true: it's not that Fred joined Roger's and Brian's band and changed its name. The story, as Mercury told it (Tom Browne interview, Xmas Eve '77), is:
"Very briefly, Brian and Roger were in a very up tempo raucous band called Smile and I used to be in another band called Wreckage or something, even more up tempo, and we used to be friends, going to collage together and met up. After the first couple of years knowing each other, we decided we'd form a band together and it's as simple as that. We thought our musical ideas would blend"
So... they formed a NEW band. The three of them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I stretched it a bit too far, agreed. But what happened with that new band was a collective experience, and would'nt have happened THAT way with other people. That's in a way also your point, but for me that means Bri and Rog can use the name.
BTW, I can see your point in that whole discussion, although I do not agree. The only thing that I thougt went a bit too far was the use of the word "cowards". But that was explained, and everything else was part of an interesting discussion.
It is always a joy to read your thoughtful and substantiated comments. So no offense! There are other people here who behave stepfordish and childish when it comes to QPR.
That's not true: it's not that Fred joined Roger's and Brian's band and changed its name. The story, as Mercury told it (Tom Browne interview, Xmas Eve '77), is:
"Very briefly, Brian and Roger were in a very up tempo raucous band called Smile and I used to be in another band called Wreckage or something, even more up tempo, and we used to be friends, going to collage together and met up. After the first couple of years knowing each other, we decided we'd form a band together and it's as simple as that. We thought our musical ideas would blend"
So... they formed a NEW band. The three of them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I stretched it a bit too far, agreed. But what happened with that new band was a collective experience, and would'nt have happened THAT way with other people. That's in a way also your point, but for me that means Bri and Rog can use the name.
BTW, I can see your point in that whole discussion, although I do not agree. The only thing that I thougt went a bit too far was the use of the word "cowards". But that was explained, and everything else was part of an interesting discussion.
It is always a joy to read your thoughtful and substantiated comments. So no offense! There are other people here who behave stepfordish and childish when it comes to QPR.
You've got a point with the word 'coward' there, Knute. I don't know many cowards that go on the road and play arenas without a bullet-proof vest and a crash helmet.
ouch...too long posts to read....sebastian i think we ll have a good fun at the O2 arena even if is the "Queen" ÷ paul performing...your point of view is respectable anyway,people shouldnt blame you..
the point is...
where is this O2 arena?!??! :P
see you there!!!
the point is...
where is this O2 arena?!??! :P
see you there!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fredswife wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I actually thought this was a four-page long thread discussing the tour. Silly me![/QUOTE]
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
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That's because they have the mentality of four-year-olds. :)
Ignore the moaners and enjoy the music. ;)
That's pretty much what I've been doing after trying to argue a bit on this thread. It's pointless arguing, really. Now the biggest argument is "The new single is #90 on the charts". If Q+PR make a bunch of #1 hits, what will the moaners say? "Chart positions mean nothing. Britney Spears charts too".
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
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That's because they have the mentality of four-year-olds. :)
Ignore the moaners and enjoy the music. ;)
That's pretty much what I've been doing after trying to argue a bit on this thread. It's pointless arguing, really. Now the biggest argument is "The new single is #90 on the charts". If Q+PR make a bunch of #1 hits, what will the moaners say? "Chart positions mean nothing. Britney Spears charts too".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Hitman wrote: [/QUOTENAME]the point is...
where is this O2 arena?!??![/QUOTE]
Just in case you really meant the question, this O2 arena (formerly known as the Millennium Dome) is in London, down the Thames river, slightly past Greenwich and roughly opposite the Canary Wharf. It sits right beside the North Greenwich station of the Jubilee tube line.
Enjoy this view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=millennium+dome+london+uk&sll=51.498658,-0.014806&sspn=0.006439,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=51.50127,0.004174&spn=0.025753,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=1
Their website:
http://www.theo2.co.uk
How to get there:
http://www.theo2.co.uk/location/getting-there.html
HTH
where is this O2 arena?!??![/QUOTE]
Just in case you really meant the question, this O2 arena (formerly known as the Millennium Dome) is in London, down the Thames river, slightly past Greenwich and roughly opposite the Canary Wharf. It sits right beside the North Greenwich station of the Jubilee tube line.
Enjoy this view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=millennium+dome+london+uk&sll=51.498658,-0.014806&sspn=0.006439,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=51.50127,0.004174&spn=0.025753,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=1
Their website:
http://www.theo2.co.uk
How to get there:
http://www.theo2.co.uk/location/getting-there.html
HTH
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gnomo wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Hitman wrote: [/QUOTENAME]the point is...
where is this O2 arena?!??![/QUOTE]
Just in case you really meant the question, this O2 arena (formerly known as the Millennium Dome) is in London, down the Thames river, slightly past Greenwich and roughly opposite the Canary Wharf. It sits right beside the North Greenwich station of the Jubilee tube line.
Enjoy this view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=millennium+dome+london+uk&sll=51.498658,-0.014806&sspn=0.006439,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=51.50127,0.004174&spn=0.025753,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=1
Their website:
http://www.theo2.co.uk
How to get there:
http://www.theo2.co.uk/location/getting-there.html
HTH[/QUOTE]
Just to add...
It's the venue where Led Zep played in December 2007, and the same where the Foo Fighters also played in 2007 featuring Brian and Roger as guests on '39.
where is this O2 arena?!??![/QUOTE]
Just in case you really meant the question, this O2 arena (formerly known as the Millennium Dome) is in London, down the Thames river, slightly past Greenwich and roughly opposite the Canary Wharf. It sits right beside the North Greenwich station of the Jubilee tube line.
Enjoy this view:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=millennium+dome+london+uk&sll=51.498658,-0.014806&sspn=0.006439,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=51.50127,0.004174&spn=0.025753,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=1
Their website:
http://www.theo2.co.uk
How to get there:
http://www.theo2.co.uk/location/getting-there.html
HTH[/QUOTE]
Just to add...
It's the venue where Led Zep played in December 2007, and the same where the Foo Fighters also played in 2007 featuring Brian and Roger as guests on '39.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fredswife wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I actually thought this was a four-page long thread discussing the tour. Silly me![/QUOTE]
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
[/QUOTE]
I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone expect this to be a topic about Q+PR tour? It wouldn't be at this section of the forum in that case, would it?
In my opinion, as long as the upcoming live performances are discussed as a QUEEN topic instead of a Q+PR topic, It deserves all the shit it gets. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh Tero you're so hardcore.
I'm in awe of your intense fandom.
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
[/QUOTE]
I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone expect this to be a topic about Q+PR tour? It wouldn't be at this section of the forum in that case, would it?
In my opinion, as long as the upcoming live performances are discussed as a QUEEN topic instead of a Q+PR topic, It deserves all the shit it gets. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh Tero you're so hardcore.
I'm in awe of your intense fandom.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]fredswife wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I actually thought this was a four-page long thread discussing the tour. Silly me![/QUOTE]
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
[/QUOTE]
I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone expect this to be a topic about Q+PR tour? It wouldn't be at this section of the forum in that case, would it?
In my opinion, as long as the upcoming live performances are discussed as a QUEEN topic instead of a Q+PR topic, It deserves all the shit it gets. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh Tero you're so hardcore.
I'm in awe of your intense fandom.[/QUOTE]
Who said anything about fandom or being hardcore?
I was merely stating that since this topic was posted in the wrong place to begin with, there isn't much point in expecting accuracy from the content either.
You're a Paul Rodgers fan first and foremost, so it's perfectly fine for you if people talk everywhere about a project he's involved in. That's nice in its own way, and I can sort of appreciate your loyalty. But you do have to remember that this is (supposed to be) a QUEEN message board.
LOL!
Yeah right.
People just can't get enough of this four year old argument.
[/QUOTE]
I wish people could just get past it. It becomes tiresome to come to the boards here and on QOL and see endless threads discussing the subject. [/QUOTE]
No doubt.
It is truly beyond tiresome now.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone expect this to be a topic about Q+PR tour? It wouldn't be at this section of the forum in that case, would it?
In my opinion, as long as the upcoming live performances are discussed as a QUEEN topic instead of a Q+PR topic, It deserves all the shit it gets. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh Tero you're so hardcore.
I'm in awe of your intense fandom.[/QUOTE]
Who said anything about fandom or being hardcore?
I was merely stating that since this topic was posted in the wrong place to begin with, there isn't much point in expecting accuracy from the content either.
You're a Paul Rodgers fan first and foremost, so it's perfectly fine for you if people talk everywhere about a project he's involved in. That's nice in its own way, and I can sort of appreciate your loyalty. But you do have to remember that this is (supposed to be) a QUEEN message board.
I became a Queen fan in 1975.
I became a PR fan in 1985.
So I'm loyal to both.
I really like Q+PR whereas it's obvious you really don't like them.
I'm well aware I'm at a QUEEN messageboard.
Been coming here for three years now.
So three years of this same argument gets very tiresome. Queen and QPR can and do exist in the same spaces together because of the ties that bind.
How can a project headed by Brian May and Roger Taylor not bleed into all sections of a Queen messageboard?
It's asinine to assume they won't.
I became a PR fan in 1985.
So I'm loyal to both.
I really like Q+PR whereas it's obvious you really don't like them.
I'm well aware I'm at a QUEEN messageboard.
Been coming here for three years now.
So three years of this same argument gets very tiresome. Queen and QPR can and do exist in the same spaces together because of the ties that bind.
How can a project headed by Brian May and Roger Taylor not bleed into all sections of a Queen messageboard?
It's asinine to assume they won't.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen and QPR can and do exist in the same spaces together because of the ties that bind.
How can a project headed by Brian May and Roger Taylor not bleed into all sections of a Queen messageboard?
It's asinine to assume they won't.
[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly.
How can a project headed by Brian May and Roger Taylor not bleed into all sections of a Queen messageboard?
It's asinine to assume they won't.
[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So three years of this same argument gets very tiresome. Queen and QPR can and do exist in the same spaces together because of the ties that bind.
How can a project headed by Brian May and Roger Taylor not bleed into all sections of a Queen messageboard?
It's asinine to assume they won't.
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I'll go through this slowly again, in case you just didn't understand it the first time.
This topic (based on the original announcement and circumstances) is supposed to be about Q+PR on tour.
This topic is in the Queen subforum.
There is a separate subforum for Q+PR on tour.
Logic dictates this topic should have been put in the Q+PR on tour subforum.
What's really asinine is to create subforums for easier browsing of a message board, and then ignore the proper use of those subforums when you want something to get more attention.
That's why it deserves negative attention. Not because of Paul Rodgers, and not because "Queen" consists of only Brian and Roger these days... Simply because it was intentionally put (and kept) in a wrong section of the forum. It deserves to be noticed so the next 582 topics this year will go into the proper place, and not clog up the Queen forum. Do you now get my point?
How can a project headed by Brian May and Roger Taylor not bleed into all sections of a Queen messageboard?
It's asinine to assume they won't.
[/QUOTE]
I'll go through this slowly again, in case you just didn't understand it the first time.
This topic (based on the original announcement and circumstances) is supposed to be about Q+PR on tour.
This topic is in the Queen subforum.
There is a separate subforum for Q+PR on tour.
Logic dictates this topic should have been put in the Q+PR on tour subforum.
What's really asinine is to create subforums for easier browsing of a message board, and then ignore the proper use of those subforums when you want something to get more attention.
That's why it deserves negative attention. Not because of Paul Rodgers, and not because "Queen" consists of only Brian and Roger these days... Simply because it was intentionally put (and kept) in a wrong section of the forum. It deserves to be noticed so the next 582 topics this year will go into the proper place, and not clog up the Queen forum. Do you now get my point?
So we should ditch the Queen+Paul Rodgers Tour sub forum and discuss everything in the Queen Serious Discussion Forum, since it's pretty much the same now.
Will this make you happy?
(Shit has hit the fan... the Queen fan)
Just kidding, man. I wish there was a forum for stupid discussions but we still have to deal with them. I don't mean this one, which is above par by QZ's recent standards. Very few people respect the sub forums' subjects.
On the other hand, Face it... the Montreal release was not very exciting for many fans (being the eleventh re-release). The old Queen is doing NOTHING at the moment. We are not getting albums re-released in superb DVD-A or getting boxed sets or getting a 70's concert release.
Queen + Paul Rodgers is the current project and it is a bloody exciting one. They are making something NEW and that makes me happy. Whether it turns out to be genius or crap, only time will tell.
Queen in their heyday were always highly misunderstood and slammed by critics. I wasn't a fan in those days and I can't compare but I really don't perceive much negativity towards their new project now (only here).
I hope they make it to Mexico on tour this year (most likely the next). I'm terribly excited about this and all the Brenski's and TreasureMoment's in the world can't change that :).
Will this make you happy?
(Shit has hit the fan... the Queen fan)
Just kidding, man. I wish there was a forum for stupid discussions but we still have to deal with them. I don't mean this one, which is above par by QZ's recent standards. Very few people respect the sub forums' subjects.
On the other hand, Face it... the Montreal release was not very exciting for many fans (being the eleventh re-release). The old Queen is doing NOTHING at the moment. We are not getting albums re-released in superb DVD-A or getting boxed sets or getting a 70's concert release.
Queen + Paul Rodgers is the current project and it is a bloody exciting one. They are making something NEW and that makes me happy. Whether it turns out to be genius or crap, only time will tell.
Queen in their heyday were always highly misunderstood and slammed by critics. I wasn't a fan in those days and I can't compare but I really don't perceive much negativity towards their new project now (only here).
I hope they make it to Mexico on tour this year (most likely the next). I'm terribly excited about this and all the Brenski's and TreasureMoment's in the world can't change that :).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Wiley wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So we should ditch the Queen+Paul Rodgers Tour sub forum and discuss everything in the Queen Serious Discussion Forum, since it's pretty much the same now.
Will this make you happy?[/QUOTE]
It might be a surprise to you, but it would make me "happy" in a way. At least I would know where the administration of this forum stands, and if nobody besides me complained about it, I would know this isn't exactly my type of crowd.
It's very fitting though, that a band releasing half-arsed efforts every year has message boards where people are happy to do whatever is easiest for them. It's a bit like the old saying that the "owner starts to look like his dog". :P
Will this make you happy?[/QUOTE]
It might be a surprise to you, but it would make me "happy" in a way. At least I would know where the administration of this forum stands, and if nobody besides me complained about it, I would know this isn't exactly my type of crowd.
It's very fitting though, that a band releasing half-arsed efforts every year has message boards where people are happy to do whatever is easiest for them. It's a bit like the old saying that the "owner starts to look like his dog". :P