^^ Yet another reason primaries are a waste of time. You get idiots who just buy into whatever someone tells them, without stopping to think that "Gee, maybe the person who provided this information has an axe to grind. Maybe I should do my own research into these issues and find out what the real answer is." I detest people who are just blindly following mantras without questioning.
For all of this information about Hilary, there is just as much on all of the other candidates, and frequently if you weren't too lazy to actually do a bit of research, you discover that the "facts" presented are not always black and white. For instance, frequently websites like this who are gunning for a candidate will take one bill that their opponent voted against and run something like this:
Candidate A voted down a bill that would have given health care to children. Therefore Candidate A doesn't care about your children.
However, the truth is not always crystal clear. Most of the time, if you do the research, Candidate A voted against the bill because of some "riders" attached to it...like maybe 5 million dollars to some county in Wisconsin to buy electronic cow milking machines or something ridiculous like that.
Just out of curiosity Haystacks, since you are very clearly an Obama supporter, have you done any research on any of the crap you spewed out into the public sphere here? I didn't think so.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DavidRFuller wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If I register to vote I get put into the jury duty pool, so....fuck that. [/QUOTE]
If you have a driver's license or library card, you're already put into the jury duty pool. Vote. It won't change your juror status.
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Thats the case in some areas, not everywhere.
If you have a driver's license or library card, you're already put into the jury duty pool. Vote. It won't change your juror status.
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Thats the case in some areas, not everywhere.
My Blog is not stupid, it just says things that you don't want to hear...
"Does is really matter where the facts come from?"
Of course it matters where the information (not sure about facts) comes from. I certainly would be very careful to post stuff from such a dubious website as my own opinion! I do not know much about Hilary Clinton but the title of that article is enough to make me doubt the integrity of the author - it looks exactly like posts from a well known Queenzone troll.
Edit: In fact Maggie already said it all much better.
Of course it matters where the information (not sure about facts) comes from. I certainly would be very careful to post stuff from such a dubious website as my own opinion! I do not know much about Hilary Clinton but the title of that article is enough to make me doubt the integrity of the author - it looks exactly like posts from a well known Queenzone troll.
Edit: In fact Maggie already said it all much better.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DavidRFuller wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If I register to vote I get put into the jury duty pool, so....fuck that. [/QUOTE]
If you have a driver's license or library card, you're already put into the jury duty pool. Vote. It won't change your juror status.
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Uh, not true. Registering to vote IS the way they compile that. You have the OPTION of NOT registering to vote at most Transportation Departments here. When you get your drivers license issued or renewed, there used to be a form. Now it's an option.
I seriously doubt the library is tied into that same system, they can't even get past the Dewey Decimal System.
Haystacks:
I can't stand Hilly as much as you, but this one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
- Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' [/QUOTE]
I don't think the First Lady had the power to choose. She might have recommended her to Bill, through a "friend", but blame needs to be widespread on that one.
If you have a driver's license or library card, you're already put into the jury duty pool. Vote. It won't change your juror status.
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Uh, not true. Registering to vote IS the way they compile that. You have the OPTION of NOT registering to vote at most Transportation Departments here. When you get your drivers license issued or renewed, there used to be a form. Now it's an option.
I seriously doubt the library is tied into that same system, they can't even get past the Dewey Decimal System.
Haystacks:
I can't stand Hilly as much as you, but this one:
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
- Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' [/QUOTE]
I don't think the First Lady had the power to choose. She might have recommended her to Bill, through a "friend", but blame needs to be widespread on that one.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DavidRFuller wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]DavidRFuller wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If I register to vote I get put into the jury duty pool, so....fuck that. [/QUOTE]
If you have a driver's license or library card, you're already put into the jury duty pool. Vote. It won't change your juror status.
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Thats the case in some areas, not everywhere.[/QUOTE]
New York isn't everywhere? Ah. Bummer.
:-)
If you have a driver's license or library card, you're already put into the jury duty pool. Vote. It won't change your juror status.
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Thats the case in some areas, not everywhere.[/QUOTE]
New York isn't everywhere? Ah. Bummer.
:-)
I'm voting for Obama come pres. election time.
*ducks*
*ducks*
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"Does is really matter where the facts come from?"
Of course it matters where the information (not sure about facts) comes from. I certainly would be very careful to post stuff from such a dubious website as my own opinion! I do not know much about Hilary Clinton but the title of that article is enough to make me doubt the integrity of the author - it looks exactly like posts from a well known Queenzone troll.
Edit: In fact Maggie already said it all much better.
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Hillary has/will do herself in...nothing that I can say, post, paste, whatever, is going to have anything to do with it.
Yes, dear, all of the things posted, and more, are 100% true about Hillary. It amazes me teh short memories that people have regarding that woman. It really does. Of course, she refuses to come clean with her White House records, won't let them see the light of day until 2012...
Clinton supporters are sheep, just as Bush supporters are.
This coming from a guy who voted for Bill once, and Bush as well. I consider myself a moderate Republican. Obama's political views are polar opposite of mine, but I don't care. He is the ONLY viable candidate out there, period, regardless of party.
How can anyone, with a clear consience and a straight face, vote for another Clinton? Have you been paying attention? Really?
Then, you get these people, as above, who will put their fingers in their ears as to the truth about their candidate, and try to discount it, just because of the site they may have seen it on. (For your info, I've never been to that website in my life, still haven't...) If that site said "The sky is blue", would you discount that as well???
Obviously, dear, you frequent that site...don't you?
All of the info on Hillary's actions is out there. Again, how anyone could vote for her is beyond astounding....it's more of the same that we've had for the past 20 years....
Of course it matters where the information (not sure about facts) comes from. I certainly would be very careful to post stuff from such a dubious website as my own opinion! I do not know much about Hilary Clinton but the title of that article is enough to make me doubt the integrity of the author - it looks exactly like posts from a well known Queenzone troll.
Edit: In fact Maggie already said it all much better.
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Hillary has/will do herself in...nothing that I can say, post, paste, whatever, is going to have anything to do with it.
Yes, dear, all of the things posted, and more, are 100% true about Hillary. It amazes me teh short memories that people have regarding that woman. It really does. Of course, she refuses to come clean with her White House records, won't let them see the light of day until 2012...
Clinton supporters are sheep, just as Bush supporters are.
This coming from a guy who voted for Bill once, and Bush as well. I consider myself a moderate Republican. Obama's political views are polar opposite of mine, but I don't care. He is the ONLY viable candidate out there, period, regardless of party.
How can anyone, with a clear consience and a straight face, vote for another Clinton? Have you been paying attention? Really?
Then, you get these people, as above, who will put their fingers in their ears as to the truth about their candidate, and try to discount it, just because of the site they may have seen it on. (For your info, I've never been to that website in my life, still haven't...) If that site said "The sky is blue", would you discount that as well???
Obviously, dear, you frequent that site...don't you?
All of the info on Hillary's actions is out there. Again, how anyone could vote for her is beyond astounding....it's more of the same that we've had for the past 20 years....
Meh, vote for communism.
"Obviously, dear, you frequent that site...don't you?"
No, I don't - I just googled a part of your tirade. Btw - googling this list brought up some 20 other websites with the same tirade, one is called "The Life And Crimes of Hilary Clinton" - apparently they all copy the same blabber - speaking of sheep...
I only watch the Presidential elections with the same interest as all politically interested people - it has an impact on our lives who runs the White House. I am not surprised about the witch hunt Hilary Clinton is exposed to - it was the same with Margaret Thatcher and the same with Angela Merkel.
No, I don't - I just googled a part of your tirade. Btw - googling this list brought up some 20 other websites with the same tirade, one is called "The Life And Crimes of Hilary Clinton" - apparently they all copy the same blabber - speaking of sheep...
I only watch the Presidential elections with the same interest as all politically interested people - it has an impact on our lives who runs the White House. I am not surprised about the witch hunt Hilary Clinton is exposed to - it was the same with Margaret Thatcher and the same with Angela Merkel.
Clinton supporters are sheep, just as Bush supporters are.
It is interesting that you say that, Haystacks. What exactly is it to be a sheep, in your definition? I'm curious to know what you think it means to be a Clinton "sheep" or a Bush "sheep".
Once you think about that, maybe you should think about the reasons you are voting for Obama. Have you thoroughly educated yourself on ALL of his stances? ALL of his points of view? Can you explain for us WHY you support him, other than "he is the only viable candidate out there"? Can you provide specific examples? If not, what makes you any better than a sheep for Bush or Clinton...you are an Obama sheep if you can't do the things I mentioned above. And if that is indeed the case, I fail to see why you are any better than a Clinton or Bush sheep...in the end, you are still a sheep.
Ball is in your court now.
It is interesting that you say that, Haystacks. What exactly is it to be a sheep, in your definition? I'm curious to know what you think it means to be a Clinton "sheep" or a Bush "sheep".
Once you think about that, maybe you should think about the reasons you are voting for Obama. Have you thoroughly educated yourself on ALL of his stances? ALL of his points of view? Can you explain for us WHY you support him, other than "he is the only viable candidate out there"? Can you provide specific examples? If not, what makes you any better than a sheep for Bush or Clinton...you are an Obama sheep if you can't do the things I mentioned above. And if that is indeed the case, I fail to see why you are any better than a Clinton or Bush sheep...in the end, you are still a sheep.
Ball is in your court now.
I don't really CARE what all of Obama's positions are....the President on the US is a figurehead, and Obama will put on the best face for this country for the next 8 years.
Simply put, and I'll type it slow so that you get it....
He is not a Clinton.
He is not a Bush.
He is the only one that has a chance to beat McCain. Hillary will get beat in the general election. Obama can win the general election.
He is the only candidate who has the ability to bring people of both sides together, versus driving them apart.
Remember, too. I voted for McCain in the Republican primary in 2000. I like the guy. I really do.
America needs Obama.
That's it. Quite simple, really.
Game.
Set.
Match.
Simply put, and I'll type it slow so that you get it....
He is not a Clinton.
He is not a Bush.
He is the only one that has a chance to beat McCain. Hillary will get beat in the general election. Obama can win the general election.
He is the only candidate who has the ability to bring people of both sides together, versus driving them apart.
Remember, too. I voted for McCain in the Republican primary in 2000. I like the guy. I really do.
America needs Obama.
That's it. Quite simple, really.
Game.
Set.
Match.
Even though I am not 18 I would LOVE for Obama to win!
He seems very level headed, and is the type of person who will take other parties views into consideration.
Hilary is cocky, and Obama is defninately the best choice.
He seems very level headed, and is the type of person who will take other parties views into consideration.
Hilary is cocky, and Obama is defninately the best choice.
honestly i just want bush out of office. i dont care who the president is, as long as they do a good job cleaning up the mess he left.
go ahead, try and tell me how 'i need to vote, its important, blah blah blah'
if i have to pick anyone, so far, obama looks good. i dont know much about politics anyway, so...meh i dunno.
just remember, they may not be in office for 8 years. there is the possiblity of only being there 4 years. there wont be an idiot (hopefully) repeating the same mistakes. hopefully we have learned from history.
go ahead, try and tell me how 'i need to vote, its important, blah blah blah'
if i have to pick anyone, so far, obama looks good. i dont know much about politics anyway, so...meh i dunno.
just remember, they may not be in office for 8 years. there is the possiblity of only being there 4 years. there wont be an idiot (hopefully) repeating the same mistakes. hopefully we have learned from history.
Wow :O thanks for all your views guys!!! Well, I really don't mind that much about voting for a president anymore, but I just want a Democrat to win. Republicans ruin things in my viewpoint.
Quick Question: My older brother says that the citizens don't actually choose the president. He said that the Electorial College does. He hasn't told me anything else, so if anyone knows, how does that work?? Any more info on the Electorial College?? Thanks for all your replies!!! :D
9 more days and I'm 15 :) ><
Quick Question: My older brother says that the citizens don't actually choose the president. He said that the Electorial College does. He hasn't told me anything else, so if anyone knows, how does that work?? Any more info on the Electorial College?? Thanks for all your replies!!! :D
9 more days and I'm 15 :) ><