I went down to the Saturday NEC gig in Birmingham.
It was a great concert.
Great light show and performance, same as on every Queen tour.
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In my opinion, the 11-5-1985 "Dragon attack" version is the best i've heard. It has an incredibly powerful beginning, the rythm section is perfect, Freddie's voice fits perfectly the song and i love Brian's solo.
Right! Their rendition of "Liar" in this same concert is magnificent! Freddie's singing is beautiful throughout. It's so powerful, overwhelming and clear that it seems he's embracing us with his voice. The way he goes up and down in one single breath, it's just amazing, he sounds like a bass singer, really. Take that second "ooooohhhh", in fact, the whole second part, it's jaw-dropping. The first too, but the second is even better. Great guitar work by Brian and John is on fire in this concert.
John's bass lines in Hammer to Fall can be heard very clearly in this concert and it's just great, very clever, very well done.
By the time he gets to Hammer to Fall, Freddie is tired. But when he goes for the "rich or poor or famous...lock your door...", now, he does that so beautifully. He sings the first part in the traditional way, with a lot of drama, striving to hit the higher notes; now, in the second part (lock your door...), he shows the signs of his genius: he keeps drifting away from the original melody, drifting away, drifting away, until he has given it a whole different contour, it sounds as if it were a modulation done on spot, which is wonderful, brilliant, too beautiful to be described with words, really. The way he briefly changes the key and some intervals and then returns to the original melody, it's just so clever and so absolutely beautiful that...you know, hands down. "Lock your door cause rain..." lol, I'm singing it here, it's so beautiful what he does, the line sounds very beautiful especially because he finds the right cadence to it!
And he does that live! On spot! Improvised! Without planning!
After listening to Queen all these years, I still get impressed by Freddie's technique when I listen to some of his performances, it's really remarkable.
Well, this is a good concert throughout, great version of Killer Queen - I love it - and the introduction to Somebody to Love is amazing, as usual. Pretty much like in MK, but in this concert it's more clear, he plays a kind of variation on the theme of one of Liszt's mephisto waltzes to the intro of Somebody. Whether he came up with that by himself or it was really a "musical quote" (more likely), it's not that relevant, but it's great.
Ah, fans of the Works and Magic tours are starting to come out! lol
John's bass lines in Hammer to Fall can be heard very clearly in this concert and it's just great, very clever, very well done.
By the time he gets to Hammer to Fall, Freddie is tired. But when he goes for the "rich or poor or famous...lock your door...", now, he does that so beautifully. He sings the first part in the traditional way, with a lot of drama, striving to hit the higher notes; now, in the second part (lock your door...), he shows the signs of his genius: he keeps drifting away from the original melody, drifting away, drifting away, until he has given it a whole different contour, it sounds as if it were a modulation done on spot, which is wonderful, brilliant, too beautiful to be described with words, really. The way he briefly changes the key and some intervals and then returns to the original melody, it's just so clever and so absolutely beautiful that...you know, hands down. "Lock your door cause rain..." lol, I'm singing it here, it's so beautiful what he does, the line sounds very beautiful especially because he finds the right cadence to it!
And he does that live! On spot! Improvised! Without planning!
After listening to Queen all these years, I still get impressed by Freddie's technique when I listen to some of his performances, it's really remarkable.
Well, this is a good concert throughout, great version of Killer Queen - I love it - and the introduction to Somebody to Love is amazing, as usual. Pretty much like in MK, but in this concert it's more clear, he plays a kind of variation on the theme of one of Liszt's mephisto waltzes to the intro of Somebody. Whether he came up with that by himself or it was really a "musical quote" (more likely), it's not that relevant, but it's great.
Ah, fans of the Works and Magic tours are starting to come out! lol
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Right! Their rendition of "Liar" in this same concert is magnificent! Freddie's singing is beautiful throughout. It's so powerful, overwhelming and clear that it seems he's embracing us with his voice. The way he goes up and down in one single breath, it's just amazing, he sounds like a bass singer, really. Take that second "ooooohhhh", in fact, the whole second part, it's jaw-dropping. The first too, but the second is even better. Great guitar work by Brian and John is on fire in this concert.
John's bass lines in Hammer to Fall can be heard very clearly in this concert and it's just great, very clever, very well done.
By the time he gets to Hammer to Fall, Freddie is tired. But when he goes for the "rich or poor or famous...lock your door...", now, he does that so beautifully. He sings the first part in the traditional way, with a lot of drama, striving to hit the higher notes; now, in the second part (lock your door...), he shows the signs of his genius: he keeps drifting away from the original melody, drifting away, drifting away, until he has given it a whole different contour, it sounds as if it were a modulation done on spot, which is wonderful, brilliant, too beautiful to be described with words, really. The way he briefly changes the key and some intervals and then returns to the original melody, it's just so clever and so absolutely beautiful that...you know, hands down. "Lock your door cause rain..." lol, I'm singing it here, it's so beautiful what he does, the line sounds very beautiful especially because he finds the right cadence to it!
And he does that live! On spot! Improvised! Without planning!
After listening to Queen all these years, I still get impressed by Freddie's technique when I listen to some of his performances, it's really remarkable.
Well, this is a good concert throughout, great version of Killer Queen - I love it - and the introduction to Somebody to Love is amazing, as usual. Pretty much like in MK, but in this concert it's more clear, he plays a kind of variation on the theme of one of Liszt's mephisto waltzes to the intro of Somebody. Whether he came up with that by himself or it was really a "musical quote" (more likely), it's not that relevant, but it's great.
Ah, fans of the Works and Magic tours are starting to come out! lol[/QUOTE]
You remind me of someone who was on this forum a long time ago, but I'm not saying any names.
John's bass lines in Hammer to Fall can be heard very clearly in this concert and it's just great, very clever, very well done.
By the time he gets to Hammer to Fall, Freddie is tired. But when he goes for the "rich or poor or famous...lock your door...", now, he does that so beautifully. He sings the first part in the traditional way, with a lot of drama, striving to hit the higher notes; now, in the second part (lock your door...), he shows the signs of his genius: he keeps drifting away from the original melody, drifting away, drifting away, until he has given it a whole different contour, it sounds as if it were a modulation done on spot, which is wonderful, brilliant, too beautiful to be described with words, really. The way he briefly changes the key and some intervals and then returns to the original melody, it's just so clever and so absolutely beautiful that...you know, hands down. "Lock your door cause rain..." lol, I'm singing it here, it's so beautiful what he does, the line sounds very beautiful especially because he finds the right cadence to it!
And he does that live! On spot! Improvised! Without planning!
After listening to Queen all these years, I still get impressed by Freddie's technique when I listen to some of his performances, it's really remarkable.
Well, this is a good concert throughout, great version of Killer Queen - I love it - and the introduction to Somebody to Love is amazing, as usual. Pretty much like in MK, but in this concert it's more clear, he plays a kind of variation on the theme of one of Liszt's mephisto waltzes to the intro of Somebody. Whether he came up with that by himself or it was really a "musical quote" (more likely), it's not that relevant, but it's great.
Ah, fans of the Works and Magic tours are starting to come out! lol[/QUOTE]
You remind me of someone who was on this forum a long time ago, but I'm not saying any names.
I never used to really like the Magic tour but quite a few concerts later and my mind has changed a lot.
The Wembley gig really isn't that impressive, the night before however is a good deal better with regards to Freddie's vocals. I've come to see that the 2nd wembley night was not really Freddie's normal range on that tour (I mean not the added bits but the raw concert) and he just seemed to be lacking at the upper end, whilst I've not heard all the magic tour concerts I'd say in terms of Freddie's voice at least its probably in the bottom 5 performances, though even then it has its great moments of course (Zurich is probably the worst I've heard.)
Can I also say one of the most under rated Queen shows ever IMO is colonge 1986, Freddie's voice is amazing that night nearly as good as the 1st Leiden show plus they did a little improv of 39 and also played Saturday night as well which was nice and the only time they did it during the Magic tour.
(BTW before anyone says anything, I've lowered the pitch on my version of Colonge because the version I had was way too high pitched!)
The Wembley gig really isn't that impressive, the night before however is a good deal better with regards to Freddie's vocals. I've come to see that the 2nd wembley night was not really Freddie's normal range on that tour (I mean not the added bits but the raw concert) and he just seemed to be lacking at the upper end, whilst I've not heard all the magic tour concerts I'd say in terms of Freddie's voice at least its probably in the bottom 5 performances, though even then it has its great moments of course (Zurich is probably the worst I've heard.)
Can I also say one of the most under rated Queen shows ever IMO is colonge 1986, Freddie's voice is amazing that night nearly as good as the 1st Leiden show plus they did a little improv of 39 and also played Saturday night as well which was nice and the only time they did it during the Magic tour.
(BTW before anyone says anything, I've lowered the pitch on my version of Colonge because the version I had was way too high pitched!)
"The works tour" is the worst tour Queen has done. It is hard to believe that it was only two years after the "hot space tour", which was a hundred times better. Did not Queen played on "Live aid" where they were fantastically good, it is doubtful whether it has become a "magic tour."
Freddie's voice was really deep and low at Wembley '86... But in Budapest same year his voice was amazing, listen to Love Of My Life...There's no trace of harshness in his high register...
His best album vocally was Innuendo btw...
His best album vocally was Innuendo btw...
To be fair the 85 leg wasn't quite as bad with regards to Freddie's vocals, the Japan shows weren't too bad and the 1st night at Rock in Rio is IMO pretty under-rated at least with regards to the vocals, he does go for some of the higher notes in that show like on under pressure and also on somebody to love as well, which is IMO ias the best performance of that song from the whole works tour both 84 and 85 legs and isn't far off some of the better hot space performances of that song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIQMvyX6T8&feature=related
As for the hot space tour and its hard to believe its the same person, well his voice showed signs of not having quite the same range in the world tour of the hot space tour, esp towards the end of the tour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIQMvyX6T8&feature=related
As for the hot space tour and its hard to believe its the same person, well his voice showed signs of not having quite the same range in the world tour of the hot space tour, esp towards the end of the tour.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]louvox wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]una999 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen's worst tour - bad sound, freddies voice suffers terribly, he looks unhealthy, clothes were terrible (both freddie and brian). Even the venues suck.
Thank fuck they rectified it for the Magic Tour. [/QUOTE]I recently saw Queen live in Japan 1985 DVD (The Works) tour. It was the worst concert by Queen I have ever witnessed. Freddie looked ridiculous in his stage outfit and was obviously having a bad night vocally. Roger Taylor kept playing this awful sounding electronic drum set on just about every song. It was quite annoying. Spike Edney?s synthesizers were all over the place and made their early songs sound stupid & very dated. I never thought I would ever say a live Queen show sucked, but that one certainly did. Had they brought that tour to the USA, they would have been booed off the stage![/QUOTE]
I agree with you, but this was the last, or one of the last shows of the tour and the band was pretty exhausted. Their first shows are great though. Brussels, Dublin, Birmingham are all top notch. But by 1985 they would get really sloppy.
But still don't know what possesed Roger to play that awful synth drum kit! It was the most annoying thing I've ever heard!
Thank fuck they rectified it for the Magic Tour. [/QUOTE]I recently saw Queen live in Japan 1985 DVD (The Works) tour. It was the worst concert by Queen I have ever witnessed. Freddie looked ridiculous in his stage outfit and was obviously having a bad night vocally. Roger Taylor kept playing this awful sounding electronic drum set on just about every song. It was quite annoying. Spike Edney?s synthesizers were all over the place and made their early songs sound stupid & very dated. I never thought I would ever say a live Queen show sucked, but that one certainly did. Had they brought that tour to the USA, they would have been booed off the stage![/QUOTE]
I agree with you, but this was the last, or one of the last shows of the tour and the band was pretty exhausted. Their first shows are great though. Brussels, Dublin, Birmingham are all top notch. But by 1985 they would get really sloppy.
But still don't know what possesed Roger to play that awful synth drum kit! It was the most annoying thing I've ever heard!
I dont know why but i kinda like the works tour.
The setlists are realy top notch in my opinion.
Freddie`s voice is far from budapest 86 or MK 82 but it doesnt sound like he is suffering a lot(yeah offcourse vocal exhausting and stuff)
But if you compare lets say for instance.....Japan 1985(final live in japan),with erm.....Queen live @ wembley(the bootleg WITHOUT overdubbs)
then i think that Queen in japan 1985 sounds better.
One vision is re-recorded in the studio for the most bits.
and a lot of other songs like hammer to fall and tie your mother down and all the rock songs have an awfull lot of overdubbs in them.
and for the Queen live in japan 1985 video they havent fixed the sound or polished it up or anything.
And to discuss rogers drumkit.
ehm....i think that he used a Syntec or Simmons drumkit because it sounds super electronic and fake.
you cant disagree on that.
the thing you can disagree on is that in my opinion Some parts of songs dont even sound that bad with the electronic drums.
i mean....Another one bites the dust sounds nice with them.
But i have to say that roger was quite a dumb ass to use them on such a big tour.
and as far as the synths go.
I like the vocoder on now im here.but i dont realy like it on..for example killer Queen or We are the champions.
And i hate the way that Now im here is getting raped by the synth(roland jupiter 8)....well actualy it is spike edney who cant control the pitchbend and modulation wheel because that just sounds like a very very very old cat who is just dumped into one bucket with water.
and yes...Freddie looked chunky but...Dont we all have our over and underweight issues sometimes.. offcoure because he was and still is one of THE biggest stars ever to life on this planet you get exited about it and just chek if he hasnt got any fat.
I dont realy mind the chunky i mean he isnt as fat as he was in the i want it all video.
and his condition still was very good(thats what i like about freddie 2 or 3 months of almost every day touring and he still is as energetic at the last gig as he was on the first one)
So freddie`s voice sounds pretty good in my ears.
The dresses are nice.
He is a bit chunky in the works tour.
And the drumkit of roger sucks balls(at some bits it does)
peace: bradley
The setlists are realy top notch in my opinion.
Freddie`s voice is far from budapest 86 or MK 82 but it doesnt sound like he is suffering a lot(yeah offcourse vocal exhausting and stuff)
But if you compare lets say for instance.....Japan 1985(final live in japan),with erm.....Queen live @ wembley(the bootleg WITHOUT overdubbs)
then i think that Queen in japan 1985 sounds better.
One vision is re-recorded in the studio for the most bits.
and a lot of other songs like hammer to fall and tie your mother down and all the rock songs have an awfull lot of overdubbs in them.
and for the Queen live in japan 1985 video they havent fixed the sound or polished it up or anything.
And to discuss rogers drumkit.
ehm....i think that he used a Syntec or Simmons drumkit because it sounds super electronic and fake.
you cant disagree on that.
the thing you can disagree on is that in my opinion Some parts of songs dont even sound that bad with the electronic drums.
i mean....Another one bites the dust sounds nice with them.
But i have to say that roger was quite a dumb ass to use them on such a big tour.
and as far as the synths go.
I like the vocoder on now im here.but i dont realy like it on..for example killer Queen or We are the champions.
And i hate the way that Now im here is getting raped by the synth(roland jupiter 8)....well actualy it is spike edney who cant control the pitchbend and modulation wheel because that just sounds like a very very very old cat who is just dumped into one bucket with water.
and yes...Freddie looked chunky but...Dont we all have our over and underweight issues sometimes.. offcoure because he was and still is one of THE biggest stars ever to life on this planet you get exited about it and just chek if he hasnt got any fat.
I dont realy mind the chunky i mean he isnt as fat as he was in the i want it all video.
and his condition still was very good(thats what i like about freddie 2 or 3 months of almost every day touring and he still is as energetic at the last gig as he was on the first one)
So freddie`s voice sounds pretty good in my ears.
The dresses are nice.
He is a bit chunky in the works tour.
And the drumkit of roger sucks balls(at some bits it does)
peace: bradley
Nice insight, Bradley. Sometimes those electronic drums worked, other times they didn't work. Not such a bad tour. But I haven't seen enough footage of the tour to really make a good judgement.
I wish they had filmed a 1984 concert in the same way as the Hammer To Fall vid.
Okay, maybe a bit less promo videoly (is that even a word? Anyway, you get the point).
Okay, maybe a bit less promo videoly (is that even a word? Anyway, you get the point).
Good point rick.
The mastertape version from sydney is pretty good and that was filmed in 1984.
The mastertape version from sydney is pretty good and that was filmed in 1984.