I dont think it was that Digital Manifest was correct. All it takes is 1 person to shout loud enough about it and action gets taken. 1 person. Like Rapidshare and Megadownload and the others that people were using. If they get 1 complaint that a link you have is illegal/copyrighted or something. Bam! it goes down. Digital Manifest probably went right after being laughed outta here to picking up the phone and somehow calling Queen or their headquarters or whatever. And if he was pissed enough from being embarrased and laughed at he could probably get something done...
That said I dont know the whole story. Id like to read the "letter" or email from Queen. But Anyway...I dont hold any hard feelings about the mods haveing to do what they had to do. Im frankly supprised it lasted this long.
Someone asked for a complete list of everything that is out there...
Nirvana 4 songs...
Marvin Gaye 5 songs...
Bob Marley 3 songs...
Doobie Brothers 1 song...
Stevie Wonder 1 song...
Beatles 4 songs...
Queen 3 songs...(Get Down is the 3rd 1. I think its not really worth having unless you are SuperDooper Hardcore...)
Def Leppard 3 songs...
I dont have everything listed.
But thats what I know IS out there. There may be a few other songs and Artists...Ive heard The Police and Issacc Hayes Mentioned as well as Hendrix and Jackson 5...But I think those would be really hard to find...
So by all means lets keep up the discussion...
IN Fact...Why Dont we write a petition to Queen. Something along the lines that We all want the Multitracks from their Greatest Hits. Why cant they sell them to us. I'd pay 25 bucks per song.
Id even buy Bohemian Rhapsody and Killer Queen even if I have them. The worst they can do is say no. But at least we can voice the fact that their Die Hard Fans want this product...and are more than willing to pay for it. So all they gotta do is be the 1st Big Scale Mega band to doit...
Oh and just for reference...My email is Queenzonebootlegs@hotmail.com
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]poopchute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen 3 songs...(Get Down is the 3rd 1. I think its not really worth having unless you are SuperDooper Hardcore...)
Def Leppard 3 songs...
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Have you got Get Down Make Love and the Def Leppard songs? I'd be interested in getting them, if it's possible. :)
Def Leppard 3 songs...
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Have you got Get Down Make Love and the Def Leppard songs? I'd be interested in getting them, if it's possible. :)
What Raf said.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME] . . . whose aim in life is to piss the band off. Secondly, Queen are always generous, they have never taken action against fans as far as I know, so if they don't want us to allow these links on the forum, it is only fair and honest to respect this and remove them. I cannot think of another website where non-official material of another band can be shared so freely and the band never complains. [/QUOTE]
Again, very well said, YV. Thanks for taking the heat for us. You rock!
--Cindy
Again, very well said, YV. Thanks for taking the heat for us. You rock!
--Cindy
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've been lurking here for years, and there are others like me. The fact is that most of what you "traders" do is too petty to involve legal action. But now you've screwed the pooch, and the big boys won't let it stand. There is no more serious form of copyright infringement. Do you think that Coca Cola would allow you to "trade" its soft-drink formulas? Lawyers live for this, and you can bet they're drooling right now. You'd better hope you didn't leave a trail.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I contacted Brian about this matter. Those of you in favor of stealing these multitrack recordings obviously have no idea how much effort went into creating the songs. Any true "fan" would respect Queen's right to control access to the basic building blocks (i.e., the individual tracks) of their career. "Trading" bootlegged live recordings is one thing, but you've crossed the line here.[/QUOTE]
Oohh I think it's Digital Manifest incarnate!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I contacted Brian about this matter. Those of you in favor of stealing these multitrack recordings obviously have no idea how much effort went into creating the songs. Any true "fan" would respect Queen's right to control access to the basic building blocks (i.e., the individual tracks) of their career. "Trading" bootlegged live recordings is one thing, but you've crossed the line here.[/QUOTE]
Oohh I think it's Digital Manifest incarnate!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've been lurking here for years, and there are others like me. The fact is that most of what you "traders" do is too petty to involve legal action. But now you've screwed the pooch, and the big boys won't let it stand. There is no more serious form of copyright infringement. Do you think that Coca Cola would allow you to "trade" its soft-drink formulas? Lawyers live for this, and you can bet they're drooling right now. You'd better hope you didn't leave a trail.[/QUOTE]
Digital Manifart returns?
QPL's lawyers have better things to do than chase down the IP addresses of people who downloaded the multi-tracks to two of their songs. I figured from the second the KQ multis went up that it was only a matter of time, and once BoRhap hit the fan, I had a hunch that anyone whose feathers were ruffled before had just received a cold-water enema. As I said back then, it depends on your definition of "official," and though there was little doubt in my mind as to where that line would be drawn by the powers that be, I held out hope that they would embrace the opportunity for the fans to get that rare glimpse into the creative process.
They didn't, and now we move on.
Digital Manifart returns?
QPL's lawyers have better things to do than chase down the IP addresses of people who downloaded the multi-tracks to two of their songs. I figured from the second the KQ multis went up that it was only a matter of time, and once BoRhap hit the fan, I had a hunch that anyone whose feathers were ruffled before had just received a cold-water enema. As I said back then, it depends on your definition of "official," and though there was little doubt in my mind as to where that line would be drawn by the powers that be, I held out hope that they would embrace the opportunity for the fans to get that rare glimpse into the creative process.
They didn't, and now we move on.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I contacted Brian about this matter. Those of you in favor of stealing these multitrack recordings obviously have no idea how much effort went into creating the songs. [/QUOTE]
Nobody here stole anything, advocated stealing anything, or incited anyone to steal anything. These files have been around for YEARS before anyone here knew about their availability. You'll be trying to pin the Kennedy shooting on us next.
In fact, I'd argue if this is actually stolen property. The mastertapes are securely held in a studio, and these computer files were GIVEN by QPL to a third party. The likeliest "crime" is breach of contract, on the assumption that whoever QPL donated them to signed a confidentiality agreement of some sort, but even that would be a civil, as opposed to criminal matter. Even then, the defendants could easily argue that there is no proof they were responsible, given the lack of security historically within QPL (eg Ibex).
So take your pathetic posturing, whichever WUM you are, and stick it up your arse.
Nobody here stole anything, advocated stealing anything, or incited anyone to steal anything. These files have been around for YEARS before anyone here knew about their availability. You'll be trying to pin the Kennedy shooting on us next.
In fact, I'd argue if this is actually stolen property. The mastertapes are securely held in a studio, and these computer files were GIVEN by QPL to a third party. The likeliest "crime" is breach of contract, on the assumption that whoever QPL donated them to signed a confidentiality agreement of some sort, but even that would be a civil, as opposed to criminal matter. Even then, the defendants could easily argue that there is no proof they were responsible, given the lack of security historically within QPL (eg Ibex).
So take your pathetic posturing, whichever WUM you are, and stick it up your arse.
Well I said this before in a thread which is now gone, but if these tracks are available to either students or engineers or anyone for that matter, then some dedicated fans who've paid enormous amounts of money to collect the shit their favorite band keeps re-issuing certainly aren't hurting anyone by getting to hear them. Seriously, if they exist anyway and are traded amongst non-fans, what's the problem?
I agree we should keep them off the forum though, for the sake of not causing any trouble to Richard.
And now a question.. for Barbara perhaps: How does this affect the sharing of remixes? I was really looking forward to hearing some of what the fans can do with this stuff. Are those forbidden now too?
I agree we should keep them off the forum though, for the sake of not causing any trouble to Richard.
And now a question.. for Barbara perhaps: How does this affect the sharing of remixes? I was really looking forward to hearing some of what the fans can do with this stuff. Are those forbidden now too?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I contacted Brian about this matter. Those of you in favor of stealing these multitrack recordings obviously have no idea how much effort went into creating the songs. [/QUOTE]
Nobody here stole anything, advocated stealing anything, or incited anyone to steal anything... So take your pathetic posturing, whichever WUM you are, and stick it up your arse.[/QUOTE]
I think the real problem is that these tracks have existed inside a small elite for quite a while.
Now they are starting to leak out - it seems that those guys are losing their family silver.
They don't really give a damn about Queen or Brian May - it really is all about protecting their own selfish self interests.
However, both the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' and the 'Killer Queen' mutlitracks are still available via peer-to-peer networking sites.
They may exist no more on Queenzone, but their life continues elsewhere.
Seems a bit daft to me to close this site, when infact, it is the only saloon in town not to carry the damned things!
Nobody here stole anything, advocated stealing anything, or incited anyone to steal anything... So take your pathetic posturing, whichever WUM you are, and stick it up your arse.[/QUOTE]
I think the real problem is that these tracks have existed inside a small elite for quite a while.
Now they are starting to leak out - it seems that those guys are losing their family silver.
They don't really give a damn about Queen or Brian May - it really is all about protecting their own selfish self interests.
However, both the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' and the 'Killer Queen' mutlitracks are still available via peer-to-peer networking sites.
They may exist no more on Queenzone, but their life continues elsewhere.
Seems a bit daft to me to close this site, when infact, it is the only saloon in town not to carry the damned things!
Maybe we can all calm down a bit. Queen know that the fans on Queenzone are no thieves, they just wanted us to stop allowing to spread these tracks. We stopped and that's the end of the story. Nobody wants to close the website. As to the question of fan mixes - I'll ask Richard about it but my personal feeling is that it's maybe better not to use these tracks for mixes atm. In the 7 years I have been sharing on QZ I never heard about a complaint, so - yes we should take it serious enough to tread carefully in this matter.
so what have i missed, which multi tracks leaked ?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenigma wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've been lurking here for years, and there are others like me. The f .......... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH ....... ers live for this, and you can bet they're drooling right now. You'd better hope you didn't leave a trail.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, what are you, Batman? Stop acting like you're looking out for anyone but yourself.
Yeah, what are you, Batman? Stop acting like you're looking out for anyone but yourself.
There are still other multitracks out there from the Stax label like Isaac Hayes' version of "The Look of Love' and the ubiquitous Theme from "Shaft."
Rumour has it that there a couple of ABBA multitracks on european forums and blogs including "Dancing Queen!"
Rumour has it that there a couple of ABBA multitracks on european forums and blogs including "Dancing Queen!"
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]it's maybe better not to use these tracks for mixes atm. In the 7 years I have been sharing on QZ I never heard about a complaint, so - yes we should take it serious enough to tread carefully in this matter.[/QUOTE]
Please let me know your admin decision, as well as Queen's official position if applicable, as soon as possible.
I had planned to publish a podcast with at least one remix built from these, and if you don't want that advertised here, then I'm not sure if I want to put it up at all. QZ has really been the only place to actively support fanmixes, and I don't want to lose that.
Please let me know your admin decision, as well as Queen's official position if applicable, as soon as possible.
I had planned to publish a podcast with at least one remix built from these, and if you don't want that advertised here, then I'm not sure if I want to put it up at all. QZ has really been the only place to actively support fanmixes, and I don't want to lose that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]motownboy wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There are still other multitracks out there from the Stax label like Isaac Hayes' version of "The Look of Love' and the ubiquitous Theme from "Shaft."
Rumour has it that there a couple of ABBA multitracks on european forums and blogs including "Dancing Queen!"[/QUOTE]
Good heavens, I'd give my entire Queen collection for Dancing Queen multitracks!
Rumour has it that there a couple of ABBA multitracks on european forums and blogs including "Dancing Queen!"[/QUOTE]
Good heavens, I'd give my entire Queen collection for Dancing Queen multitracks!