[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]er, wasn't Haole banned from either QOL or QFC?
Pretty sure it wasn't here, but then the rest of your whining is equally weak...[/QUOTE]
It was here, and it was me that did the banning. For some reason people love to still talk about it.[/QUOTE]
...and dont think I've forgotten about it either you scottish git. One morning you will wake up to discover your kilt has been replaced by a tutu, and you'll find on the pillow beside you -- just like in the Godfather -- your pet haggis's severed head...
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oh please stop the flames people...
the topic was including some humour in my opinion...no need to heavily criticize him ok?
freedom of speech and respect ;)
of course i'm for FLAC and losslees...you can reduce it to mp3 later for your personal use! :)
the topic was including some humour in my opinion...no need to heavily criticize him ok?
freedom of speech and respect ;)
of course i'm for FLAC and losslees...you can reduce it to mp3 later for your personal use! :)
192kb mp3 is enough, who needs flac ? why do you need flac if your ears could not recognize 192kb+ mp3 of flac?
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
It was here, and it was me that did the banning. For some reason people love to still talk about it.[/QUOTE]
...and dont think I've forgotten about it either you scottish git. One morning you will wake up to discover your kilt has been replaced by a tutu, and you'll find on the pillow beside you -- just like in the Godfather -- your pet haggis's severed head... [/QUOTE]
Oh shit! :-o
He had to leave the pet haggis in Scotland...something about foot and mouth disease. I would like to see Pieter in a tutu, though. ;-)
It was here, and it was me that did the banning. For some reason people love to still talk about it.[/QUOTE]
...and dont think I've forgotten about it either you scottish git. One morning you will wake up to discover your kilt has been replaced by a tutu, and you'll find on the pillow beside you -- just like in the Godfather -- your pet haggis's severed head... [/QUOTE]
Oh shit! :-o
He had to leave the pet haggis in Scotland...something about foot and mouth disease. I would like to see Pieter in a tutu, though. ;-)
LOL to Erin ...
Also, if anyone is interested, I will try to answer many of the above questions ... but it is late in Chicago, and I am too tired to respond now.
Also, if anyone is interested, I will try to answer many of the above questions ... but it is late in Chicago, and I am too tired to respond now.
First, I want to do a question mainly to polite people like ruth.olivier, pittrek or YV (among others). If I want to burn a FLAC file into a CD, I have firstly to convert it to wav or I can burn directly?
Secondly, I would like to say something. As NickName said, I would be interested in FLAC files of EX quality concerts: the broadcasting/ soundbording ones, and few others audience recordings that are incredibily good like Chicago 78 (I'm not sure if it's a audience recording) or Vienna 84, among others. It's only my opinion, but there recordings really aweful, like Mar del Plata 81. Though it was about an audience record done in my country, I deleted it. Concerts like them aren't music, they are noise, in FLAC or mp3...
I repeat: It's only my opinion, I would like to know yours.
Sorry for my poor english
Cheers!
Secondly, I would like to say something. As NickName said, I would be interested in FLAC files of EX quality concerts: the broadcasting/ soundbording ones, and few others audience recordings that are incredibily good like Chicago 78 (I'm not sure if it's a audience recording) or Vienna 84, among others. It's only my opinion, but there recordings really aweful, like Mar del Plata 81. Though it was about an audience record done in my country, I deleted it. Concerts like them aren't music, they are noise, in FLAC or mp3...
I repeat: It's only my opinion, I would like to know yours.
Sorry for my poor english
Cheers!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]theCro wrote: [/QUOTENAME]192kb mp3 is enough, who needs flac ? why do you need flac if your ears could not recognize 192kb+ mp3 of flac?
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+[/QUOTE]
Your speaking privileges have been revoked.
To reply more specifically to Gym, I too must have super-hearing (which, I know for a fact, I do not), as I can easily tell the difference between a lossless file and a 192kbps MP3. 320kbps, I couldn't tell you one from the other, and lots of the concerts I picked up early on were switched to that 320kbps level to save space.
Think of it this way--we have a pool of recordings out there. Converting a lossless recording to MP3 for your own personal use and *never sharing those MP3s* is like getting out of the pool to take a piss. You're perfectly happy, and everyone else is as well. Now, when you download a lossless file, convert it to MP3, and then re-upload that MP3, you're not just pissing in your own toilet; you're taking a dump in the community pool. The lifeguards are going to kick you in the balls. 'Nuff said.
Is it so much to ask that you take a piss in your own toilet rather than taking a dump in the community pool? The more crap we have floating around in that pool, the less likely others are to jump in. That's why the recordings Sir GH alludes to have yet to see the light of day. There's a recording of Q+PR's Phoenix show that's out there and being hoarded because of lossy trading/sharing. Why are you, and a couple of others, so opposed to doing what every other serious fan community out there has done and declaring the pool a "no-piss zone"?
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+[/QUOTE]
Your speaking privileges have been revoked.
To reply more specifically to Gym, I too must have super-hearing (which, I know for a fact, I do not), as I can easily tell the difference between a lossless file and a 192kbps MP3. 320kbps, I couldn't tell you one from the other, and lots of the concerts I picked up early on were switched to that 320kbps level to save space.
Think of it this way--we have a pool of recordings out there. Converting a lossless recording to MP3 for your own personal use and *never sharing those MP3s* is like getting out of the pool to take a piss. You're perfectly happy, and everyone else is as well. Now, when you download a lossless file, convert it to MP3, and then re-upload that MP3, you're not just pissing in your own toilet; you're taking a dump in the community pool. The lifeguards are going to kick you in the balls. 'Nuff said.
Is it so much to ask that you take a piss in your own toilet rather than taking a dump in the community pool? The more crap we have floating around in that pool, the less likely others are to jump in. That's why the recordings Sir GH alludes to have yet to see the light of day. There's a recording of Q+PR's Phoenix show that's out there and being hoarded because of lossy trading/sharing. Why are you, and a couple of others, so opposed to doing what every other serious fan community out there has done and declaring the pool a "no-piss zone"?
Hi Alex,
I'll try to answer with my own experience, as I discovered the lossless FLAC format last year only (so I'm not that far from you !).
Yes, we can burn FLAC files directly on a CD-R. That's what I do.
Maybe we should have a "technical" forum to talk about all that, because we are here in the "Sharing" section. Anyway, I'll try to inform you the best and the simpler I could. Hpoe I'm right, but I won't be too technical.
In fact, your Nero or other software can burn CD because it recognizes the files via something called a codec. The usual coded you get in Nero recognizes the Wav and the mp3 files among others. But, at least the version I have, it does not recognizes the Flac codec. Maybe recent versions do, I would not be astonished if they did. But if they don't, well, you just have to download this codec from the net. As simple as that. You download a file, click on it and all is installed quite magicly, you don't have anything else to do. My example goes for Nero, I tried it as it is the software I use. For my part I would give the advice of using Nero instead of others, as among the three or four I tried, it was the only one who could delete the gap between files (you know, the two seconds of silence before the song begins).
After that, when you ask Nero "browse" (in order to search the files you want to burn), then the Flac files appears in the window, which they didn't before installing the codec.
So all you need now is to know where to download this codec. I don't know if we can link directly to that sort of things from this forum (maybe you should help us with this Barb ?), so I would say that you just have to google the words "Flac codec Nero" and see what you can find.
If that applies to Nero, I don't know how to proceed for other software. But try google and search the terms "Flac codec XXX", XXX being the name of your software (and not the sign of an adult-oriented search of course).
So you don't need anymore to convert the files before burning. You can store them as Flac, and you don't have to have one version in Flac, one in mp3 for listening and one in Wav for burning. No, you can keep the Flac format only.
As far as listning to the files, I think Windows Media Player and other players don't recognize Flac files instantly (not sure about that, I think some of them do), so you also have to update your software with a codec. I can't remember exactly now. But listening to a Flac file is possible, you have to do the same researches, just google "Flac codec Windows Media Player" for example.
Hope that helps, we should have more often that sort of technical discussion as it seems that some people still need information. We are here to help you if needed.
Regards
I'll try to answer with my own experience, as I discovered the lossless FLAC format last year only (so I'm not that far from you !).
Yes, we can burn FLAC files directly on a CD-R. That's what I do.
Maybe we should have a "technical" forum to talk about all that, because we are here in the "Sharing" section. Anyway, I'll try to inform you the best and the simpler I could. Hpoe I'm right, but I won't be too technical.
In fact, your Nero or other software can burn CD because it recognizes the files via something called a codec. The usual coded you get in Nero recognizes the Wav and the mp3 files among others. But, at least the version I have, it does not recognizes the Flac codec. Maybe recent versions do, I would not be astonished if they did. But if they don't, well, you just have to download this codec from the net. As simple as that. You download a file, click on it and all is installed quite magicly, you don't have anything else to do. My example goes for Nero, I tried it as it is the software I use. For my part I would give the advice of using Nero instead of others, as among the three or four I tried, it was the only one who could delete the gap between files (you know, the two seconds of silence before the song begins).
After that, when you ask Nero "browse" (in order to search the files you want to burn), then the Flac files appears in the window, which they didn't before installing the codec.
So all you need now is to know where to download this codec. I don't know if we can link directly to that sort of things from this forum (maybe you should help us with this Barb ?), so I would say that you just have to google the words "Flac codec Nero" and see what you can find.
If that applies to Nero, I don't know how to proceed for other software. But try google and search the terms "Flac codec XXX", XXX being the name of your software (and not the sign of an adult-oriented search of course).
So you don't need anymore to convert the files before burning. You can store them as Flac, and you don't have to have one version in Flac, one in mp3 for listening and one in Wav for burning. No, you can keep the Flac format only.
As far as listning to the files, I think Windows Media Player and other players don't recognize Flac files instantly (not sure about that, I think some of them do), so you also have to update your software with a codec. I can't remember exactly now. But listening to a Flac file is possible, you have to do the same researches, just google "Flac codec Windows Media Player" for example.
Hope that helps, we should have more often that sort of technical discussion as it seems that some people still need information. We are here to help you if needed.
Regards
There is another reason I hate MP3.
It's those bloody gaps at each end of the files that have to be manually removed before I can burn to CD...
It's those bloody gaps at each end of the files that have to be manually removed before I can burn to CD...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTE]
Oh shit! :-o
He had to leave the pet haggis in Scotland...something about foot and mouth disease. I would like to see Pieter in a tutu, though. ;-)[/QUOTE]
:)
Oh shit! :-o
He had to leave the pet haggis in Scotland...something about foot and mouth disease. I would like to see Pieter in a tutu, though. ;-)[/QUOTE]
:)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ruth.olivier wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hi Alex,
I'll try to answer with my own experience, as I discovered the lossless FLAC format last year only (so I'm not that far from you !).
Yes, we can burn FLAC files directly on a CD-R. That's what I do.
Maybe we should have a "technical" forum to talk about all that, because we are here in the "Sharing" section. Anyway, I'll try to inform you the best and the simpler I could. Hpoe I'm right, but I won't be too technical.
In fact, your Nero or other software can burn CD because it recognizes the files via something called a codec. The usual coded you get in Nero recognizes the Wav and the mp3 files among others. But, at least the version I have, it does not recognizes the Flac codec. Maybe recent versions do, I would not be astonished if they did. But if they don't, well, you just have to download this codec from the net. As simple as that. You download a file, click on it and all is installed quite magicly, you don't have anything else to do. My example goes for Nero, I tried it as it is the software I use. For my part I would give the advice of using Nero instead of others, as among the three or four I tried, it was the only one who could delete the gap between files (you know, the two seconds of silence before the song begins).
After that, when you ask Nero "browse" (in order to search the files you want to burn), then the Flac files appears in the window, which they didn't before installing the codec.
So all you need now is to know where to download this codec. I don't know if we can link directly to that sort of things from this forum (maybe you should help us with this Barb ?), so I would say that you just have to google the words "Flac codec Nero" and see what you can find.
If that applies to Nero, I don't know how to proceed for other software. But try google and search the terms "Flac codec XXX", XXX being the name of your software (and not the sign of an adult-oriented search of course).
So you don't need anymore to convert the files before burning. You can store them as Flac, and you don't have to have one version in Flac, one in mp3 for listening and one in Wav for burning. No, you can keep the Flac format only.
As far as listning to the files, I think Windows Media Player and other players don't recognize Flac files instantly (not sure about that, I think some of them do), so you also have to update your software with a codec. I can't remember exactly now. But listening to a Flac file is possible, you have to do the same researches, just google "Flac codec Windows Media Player" for example.
Hope that helps, we should have more often that sort of technical discussion as it seems that some people still need information. We are here to help you if needed.
Regards
[/QUOTE]
Thanks very much, Olivier. I will try to do the things you say.
I'll try to answer with my own experience, as I discovered the lossless FLAC format last year only (so I'm not that far from you !).
Yes, we can burn FLAC files directly on a CD-R. That's what I do.
Maybe we should have a "technical" forum to talk about all that, because we are here in the "Sharing" section. Anyway, I'll try to inform you the best and the simpler I could. Hpoe I'm right, but I won't be too technical.
In fact, your Nero or other software can burn CD because it recognizes the files via something called a codec. The usual coded you get in Nero recognizes the Wav and the mp3 files among others. But, at least the version I have, it does not recognizes the Flac codec. Maybe recent versions do, I would not be astonished if they did. But if they don't, well, you just have to download this codec from the net. As simple as that. You download a file, click on it and all is installed quite magicly, you don't have anything else to do. My example goes for Nero, I tried it as it is the software I use. For my part I would give the advice of using Nero instead of others, as among the three or four I tried, it was the only one who could delete the gap between files (you know, the two seconds of silence before the song begins).
After that, when you ask Nero "browse" (in order to search the files you want to burn), then the Flac files appears in the window, which they didn't before installing the codec.
So all you need now is to know where to download this codec. I don't know if we can link directly to that sort of things from this forum (maybe you should help us with this Barb ?), so I would say that you just have to google the words "Flac codec Nero" and see what you can find.
If that applies to Nero, I don't know how to proceed for other software. But try google and search the terms "Flac codec XXX", XXX being the name of your software (and not the sign of an adult-oriented search of course).
So you don't need anymore to convert the files before burning. You can store them as Flac, and you don't have to have one version in Flac, one in mp3 for listening and one in Wav for burning. No, you can keep the Flac format only.
As far as listning to the files, I think Windows Media Player and other players don't recognize Flac files instantly (not sure about that, I think some of them do), so you also have to update your software with a codec. I can't remember exactly now. But listening to a Flac file is possible, you have to do the same researches, just google "Flac codec Windows Media Player" for example.
Hope that helps, we should have more often that sort of technical discussion as it seems that some people still need information. We are here to help you if needed.
Regards
[/QUOTE]
Thanks very much, Olivier. I will try to do the things you say.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]theCro wrote: [/QUOTENAME]192kb mp3 is enough, who needs flac ? why do you need flac if your ears could not recognize 192kb+ mp3 of flac?
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+[/QUOTE]
And you can fit more on a hard drive, meaning a smaller one suffices, although you do then run the risk of losing it...
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+[/QUOTE]
And you can fit more on a hard drive, meaning a smaller one suffices, although you do then run the risk of losing it...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]theCro wrote: [/QUOTENAME]192kb mp3 is enough, who needs flac ? why do you need flac if your ears could not recognize 192kb+ mp3 of flac?
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+[/QUOTE]
Your speaking privileges have been revoked.
To reply more specifically to Gym, I too must have super-hearing (which, I know for a fact, I do not), as I can easily tell the difference between a lossless file and a 192kbps MP3. 320kbps, I couldn't tell you one from the other, and lots of the concerts I picked up early on were switched to that 320kbps level to save space.
Think of it this way--we have a pool of recordings out there. Converting a lossless recording to MP3 for your own personal use and *never sharing those MP3s* is like getting out of the pool to take a piss. You're perfectly happy, and everyone else is as well. Now, when you download a lossless file, convert it to MP3, and then re-upload that MP3, you're not just pissing in your own toilet; you're taking a dump in the community pool. The lifeguards are going to kick you in the balls. 'Nuff said.
Is it so much to ask that you take a piss in your own toilet rather than taking a dump in the community pool? The more crap we have floating around in that pool, the less likely others are to jump in. That's why the recordings Sir GH alludes to have yet to see the light of day. There's a recording of Q+PR's Phoenix show that's out there and being hoarded because of lossy trading/sharing. Why are you, and a couple of others, so opposed to doing what every other serious fan community out there has done and declaring the pool a "no-piss zone"?[/QUOTE]
I have never downloaded a flac file, converted it to mp3 and reuploaded it as flac. So, by your definition, I am not crapping or pissing in the community pool.
flac takes lots of memory and its ..uh what to say, not user friendly when you can use mp3's with 192+[/QUOTE]
Your speaking privileges have been revoked.
To reply more specifically to Gym, I too must have super-hearing (which, I know for a fact, I do not), as I can easily tell the difference between a lossless file and a 192kbps MP3. 320kbps, I couldn't tell you one from the other, and lots of the concerts I picked up early on were switched to that 320kbps level to save space.
Think of it this way--we have a pool of recordings out there. Converting a lossless recording to MP3 for your own personal use and *never sharing those MP3s* is like getting out of the pool to take a piss. You're perfectly happy, and everyone else is as well. Now, when you download a lossless file, convert it to MP3, and then re-upload that MP3, you're not just pissing in your own toilet; you're taking a dump in the community pool. The lifeguards are going to kick you in the balls. 'Nuff said.
Is it so much to ask that you take a piss in your own toilet rather than taking a dump in the community pool? The more crap we have floating around in that pool, the less likely others are to jump in. That's why the recordings Sir GH alludes to have yet to see the light of day. There's a recording of Q+PR's Phoenix show that's out there and being hoarded because of lossy trading/sharing. Why are you, and a couple of others, so opposed to doing what every other serious fan community out there has done and declaring the pool a "no-piss zone"?[/QUOTE]
I have never downloaded a flac file, converted it to mp3 and reuploaded it as flac. So, by your definition, I am not crapping or pissing in the community pool.
No, in your case it's someone else's shit you're throwing into the pool.
Which in the lifeguarding metaphor would probably get you a jacket with lots of buckles...
Which in the lifeguarding metaphor would probably get you a jacket with lots of buckles...
Good point PG. You always say the things more clearer than some of us could do, but the idea in your words is right. I like your metaphors. You're probably one of the greatest poets of the 21st century. Don't have a clue what would be the title of your next book anyway.
Regards,
Olivier,
France.
Regards,
Olivier,
France.