[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ken8 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
The only thing that's strange is them using the name "Queen" in any context, and then trying to claim that "they've moved on" or it "is a completely different project" If that is true, then why not have the balls to drop the name "Queen"??
They are having a bob each way, and the idea is artisticlly bankrupt.
If this sounds different, why call it "Queen"? Although you can bet they'll try to recapture the old sound.
This whole idea is a double edged sword for the band. With so many releases on DVD for instance, how can this modern incarnation compete with it's past? That's the creative and consumer credibility hurdle they face.
I'd bet they'd be praying that "Cosmos Rocks" sells half as well as "Hot Space"
"The Cosmos Rocks", honestly, what a pathetic title. This whole thing starts to smack of a Brian May solo project that Roger Taylor's allowed to play on. Has Roger Taylor become just a "YES" man these days, or was he always?
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Brilliant post, man! You destroyed them. You annihilated them. TKO.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dan Corson IV: Among the Living wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Get over it and stop being a bunch of fucking babies.[/QUOTE]
Now there's an idea.
Now there's an idea.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]paul REALLY needs to sing in time, i hate his off time singing[/QUOTE]
An example, please.
Song, album, and precisly what time does it occur?
Judging from the songs you've posted on here, the last thing you should be nit-picky about is keeping in time.
An example, please.
Song, album, and precisly what time does it occur?
Judging from the songs you've posted on here, the last thing you should be nit-picky about is keeping in time.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ken8 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
The only thing that's strange is them using the name "Queen" in any context, and then trying to claim that "they've moved on" or it "is a completely different project" If that is true, then why not have the balls to drop the name "Queen"??
They are having a bob each way, and the idea is artisticlly bankrupt.
If this sounds different, why call it "Queen"? Although you can bet they'll try to recapture the old sound.
This whole idea is a double edged sword for the band. With so many releases on DVD for instance, how can this modern incarnation compete with it's past? That's the creative and consumer credibility hurdle they face.
I'd bet they'd be praying that "Cosmos Rocks" sells half as well as "Hot Space"
"The Cosmos Rocks", honestly, what a pathetic title. This whole thing starts to smack of a Brian May solo project that Roger Taylor's allowed to play on. Has Roger Taylor become just a "YES" man these days, or was he always?
"The Cosmos Rocks" makes "Electric Fire" sound like a work of genius.
Christ, even "Queen At The Beeb" is a better title. At least it tells you what it is....Why not something more imaginative that sums up the current situation.."A New Beginning" or "Through A New Door" or something?
"Cosmos Rocks" is cold, bland, corporate sounding, focus group driven rubbish[/QUOTE]
Word, mate!
They can call themselves whatever they want and they'll probably be an excellent band doing excellent music.
But Queen as a band with a former soul is gone forever. This is a totally different project in the same way Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek can't resurrect The Doors again no matter how hard they try.
All my best wishes to Brian and Roger in their new project but their current musical direction hardly excites me anymore and I can sense that same feeling among many other members here. It's not a "Freddie's gone" thing, it's simply that we can't find the Queen spirit in a two-men-only project. Not as Queen at least.
The only thing that's strange is them using the name "Queen" in any context, and then trying to claim that "they've moved on" or it "is a completely different project" If that is true, then why not have the balls to drop the name "Queen"??
They are having a bob each way, and the idea is artisticlly bankrupt.
If this sounds different, why call it "Queen"? Although you can bet they'll try to recapture the old sound.
This whole idea is a double edged sword for the band. With so many releases on DVD for instance, how can this modern incarnation compete with it's past? That's the creative and consumer credibility hurdle they face.
I'd bet they'd be praying that "Cosmos Rocks" sells half as well as "Hot Space"
"The Cosmos Rocks", honestly, what a pathetic title. This whole thing starts to smack of a Brian May solo project that Roger Taylor's allowed to play on. Has Roger Taylor become just a "YES" man these days, or was he always?
"The Cosmos Rocks" makes "Electric Fire" sound like a work of genius.
Christ, even "Queen At The Beeb" is a better title. At least it tells you what it is....Why not something more imaginative that sums up the current situation.."A New Beginning" or "Through A New Door" or something?
"Cosmos Rocks" is cold, bland, corporate sounding, focus group driven rubbish[/QUOTE]
Word, mate!
They can call themselves whatever they want and they'll probably be an excellent band doing excellent music.
But Queen as a band with a former soul is gone forever. This is a totally different project in the same way Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek can't resurrect The Doors again no matter how hard they try.
All my best wishes to Brian and Roger in their new project but their current musical direction hardly excites me anymore and I can sense that same feeling among many other members here. It's not a "Freddie's gone" thing, it's simply that we can't find the Queen spirit in a two-men-only project. Not as Queen at least.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]goinback wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Everyone remembers the album cover years later, it's more important than the marketing campaign. [/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me?
So if a band has a great cover and artwork, that's all you need? How does that translate to airplay?
When you hear the Queen songs in commercials today, do you really think the company execs chose that song based on the Album Cover?
When they used "Be Good Johnny" for the TV Show Nanny 9-1-1, do you think they liked the Business As Usual album cover sooooo much that they chose that song?
When a group tours, why not just display a huge graphic of the album cover? The band doesn't need to come along... well maybe the graphic designer.
In fact, my concert weenie is going floppy crazy right now for the
ROGER DEAN / RICHARD GREY 2009 WORLD TOUR
Are you kidding me?
So if a band has a great cover and artwork, that's all you need? How does that translate to airplay?
When you hear the Queen songs in commercials today, do you really think the company execs chose that song based on the Album Cover?
When they used "Be Good Johnny" for the TV Show Nanny 9-1-1, do you think they liked the Business As Usual album cover sooooo much that they chose that song?
When a group tours, why not just display a huge graphic of the album cover? The band doesn't need to come along... well maybe the graphic designer.
In fact, my concert weenie is going floppy crazy right now for the
ROGER DEAN / RICHARD GREY 2009 WORLD TOUR
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]goinback wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Everyone remembers the album cover years later, it's more important than the marketing campaign. [/QUOTE]
Speaking of Yes, who employed the GREAT Roger Dean to do MOST of their album covers:
What was the most widely sold album by YES?
That would be 90125.
And who did that cover???
NOT Roger Dean... Some guy on an Apple IIe computer!!!
(kinda makes your Microsoft Paint joke fall flat... in fact it shreds it to bits)
Maybe it was the Songs:
Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Hold On, Leave It, It Can Happen
ya think?
Speaking of Yes, who employed the GREAT Roger Dean to do MOST of their album covers:
What was the most widely sold album by YES?
That would be 90125.
And who did that cover???
NOT Roger Dean... Some guy on an Apple IIe computer!!!
(kinda makes your Microsoft Paint joke fall flat... in fact it shreds it to bits)
Maybe it was the Songs:
Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Hold On, Leave It, It Can Happen
ya think?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]goinback wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Everyone remembers the album cover years later, it's more important than the marketing campaign. [/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me?
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So you remember the radio spots and magazine ads for the Queen II album, rather than the Queen II album cover?!?
Queen II didn't sell that well here in the US, but because of the great music AND that awesome cover that people have identified with visually making Queen appear cool (we wouldn't have had the Bo Rhap video without it), it's had a long-term impact on the band even though initially the album's music wasn't that important in the US.
(And no, obviously the album cover doesn't make the whole thing, but does have a real impact on the band image-wise for the long-term...and IMHO Yes' 90125 album cover was better than some of Roger Dean's, though as you've said the songs were great on top of it.)
Are you kidding me?
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So you remember the radio spots and magazine ads for the Queen II album, rather than the Queen II album cover?!?
Queen II didn't sell that well here in the US, but because of the great music AND that awesome cover that people have identified with visually making Queen appear cool (we wouldn't have had the Bo Rhap video without it), it's had a long-term impact on the band even though initially the album's music wasn't that important in the US.
(And no, obviously the album cover doesn't make the whole thing, but does have a real impact on the band image-wise for the long-term...and IMHO Yes' 90125 album cover was better than some of Roger Dean's, though as you've said the songs were great on top of it.)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Soul Brother wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
The album is as yet officially untitled and the artwork temporary. These will not be used on final product guaranteed.
Queen + PR could learn much from Rush's approach to this - they obviously have some great people involved enusuring that the concept imagery used on the albums runs through to the stage show graphics etc. Bloody amazing.
As for the working title. Yes, pants.[/QUOTE]
"Cosmos Rocks" was visible during the Al Murray show.
Frankly, I'm still waiting for the finished title and artwork for "Rocks Montreal"
The album is as yet officially untitled and the artwork temporary. These will not be used on final product guaranteed.
Queen + PR could learn much from Rush's approach to this - they obviously have some great people involved enusuring that the concept imagery used on the albums runs through to the stage show graphics etc. Bloody amazing.
As for the working title. Yes, pants.[/QUOTE]
"Cosmos Rocks" was visible during the Al Murray show.
Frankly, I'm still waiting for the finished title and artwork for "Rocks Montreal"
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
What was the most widely sold album by YES?
That would be 90125.
And who did that cover???
NOT Roger Dean... Some guy on an Apple IIe computer!!!
(kinda makes your Microsoft Paint joke fall flat... in fact it shreds it to bits)
Maybe it was the Songs:
Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Hold On, Leave It, It Can Happen
ya think?[/QUOTE]
But that cover was of it's time, as the cover for "The Miracle" was, and neither cover could've been done at home by kids like they could be now.
But I agree. If the albulm doesn't sell like 90125 did, it won't be because of the cover. There's too many other factors involved that are working against it to solely blame just the cover or title.
What was the most widely sold album by YES?
That would be 90125.
And who did that cover???
NOT Roger Dean... Some guy on an Apple IIe computer!!!
(kinda makes your Microsoft Paint joke fall flat... in fact it shreds it to bits)
Maybe it was the Songs:
Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Hold On, Leave It, It Can Happen
ya think?[/QUOTE]
But that cover was of it's time, as the cover for "The Miracle" was, and neither cover could've been done at home by kids like they could be now.
But I agree. If the albulm doesn't sell like 90125 did, it won't be because of the cover. There's too many other factors involved that are working against it to solely blame just the cover or title.
I don't care about the titles. What I care about is the music.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]goinback wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Everyone remembers the album cover years later, it's more important than the marketing campaign. [/QUOTE]
Speaking of Yes, who employed the GREAT Roger Dean to do MOST of their album covers:
What was the most widely sold album by YES?
That would be 90125.
And who did that cover???
NOT Roger Dean... Some guy on an Apple IIe computer!!!
(kinda makes your Microsoft Paint joke fall flat... in fact it shreds it to bits)
Maybe it was the Songs:
Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Hold On, Leave It, It Can Happen
ya think?
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Perfectly said.
Speaking of Yes, who employed the GREAT Roger Dean to do MOST of their album covers:
What was the most widely sold album by YES?
That would be 90125.
And who did that cover???
NOT Roger Dean... Some guy on an Apple IIe computer!!!
(kinda makes your Microsoft Paint joke fall flat... in fact it shreds it to bits)
Maybe it was the Songs:
Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Hold On, Leave It, It Can Happen
ya think?
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Perfectly said.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]paul REALLY needs to sing in time, i hate his off time singing[/QUOTE]
I really don't think you're qualified to judge someone elses phrasing. You don't even HAVE a singer yet.
I really don't think you're qualified to judge someone elses phrasing. You don't even HAVE a singer yet.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]beautifulsoup wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't care about the titles. What I care about is the music.[/QUOTE]
Judging by this thread, you might be in the wrong forum.
:) Ho ho ho.
Judging by this thread, you might be in the wrong forum.
:) Ho ho ho.
Well...I actually like this album title. It's sweet how Brian finally got an album with a name he wanted. With all the new "hip" album names, it's nice to have a dorky name. It stands out and besides, I don't think it's that big of a deal, it's the inside that counts.:P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haggis McShagPants wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]paul REALLY needs to sing in time, i hate his off time singing[/QUOTE]
I really don't think you're qualified to judge someone elses phrasing. You don't even HAVE a singer yet.[/QUOTE]
that has nothing to do with anything. His voice is ok but he needs to sing in time at least.
I really don't think you're qualified to judge someone elses phrasing. You don't even HAVE a singer yet.[/QUOTE]
that has nothing to do with anything. His voice is ok but he needs to sing in time at least.