> I wonder why you think a 5/4 bar is more complex than the basic 4/4.
>>Well, more complex - less simple... you know what I mean.
Hmm, I don't agree with that. It's just that 4/4 is such the standard, ask someone who is not a musician or a songwriter to make up a tune and you can bet it's a 4/4. And that's because it's the meter you hear in everyday life. On the radio, in tv tunes, jingles, commercials, somebody whistling on the street.
It's not that it's less complex. It's just that everybody is familiar with it. That would also mean that changing a pear to a mango in a fruit salad would make you a better cook. And make the recipe more complex, or hard. But it's just the same, only we are more used to pears than to mango's.
If you were born on a tropical island you would your mango's in your everyday salad and dinner. You wouldn't even think of using something strange as a pear.
This is the same with music, when you listen to jazz or progressive rock, or classical music more often it would be much easier for you to make a melody or drum rythm in, let's say, a 9/8.
It doesn't make it more complex, it's just changing the recipe.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Felixk wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There are many Queen songs that are deceptively simple.[/QUOTE]Why don't you go to the Bach community and talk about textbook counterpoints instead of bashing Queen?[/QUOTE]... since when a compliment equals bashing, in English...?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]ask someone who is not a musician or a songwriter to make up a tune and you can bet it's a 4/4.[/QUOTE]
Precisely because it's simple.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]And that's because it's the meter you hear in everyday life. On the radio, in tv tunes, jingles, commercials, somebody whistling on the street.[/QUOTE]
...because it's simple.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>
That would also mean that changing a pear to a mango in a fruit salad would make you a better cook. And make the recipe more complex, or hard.[/QUOTE]
IMO that's not a correct analogy. It'd be more like this: rather than putting the fruit salad in a plate, you arrange it in a slightly more adventurous way. Not in a 'complex' one (e.g. a pyramid), but still, not as basic as the 4/4 plate.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>This is the same with music, when you listen to jazz or progressive rock, or classical music more often it would be much easier for you to make a melody or drum rythm in, let's say, a 9/8.[/QUOTE]
Well, no: 4/4 would still be easier, as it appears a lot in classical, jazz and prog too. It's like: a neurosurgeon would obviously find it easier to cure acute coryza than influenza, even if both are (in most cases) 'basic' illnesses.
Precisely because it's simple.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]And that's because it's the meter you hear in everyday life. On the radio, in tv tunes, jingles, commercials, somebody whistling on the street.[/QUOTE]
...because it's simple.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>
That would also mean that changing a pear to a mango in a fruit salad would make you a better cook. And make the recipe more complex, or hard.[/QUOTE]
IMO that's not a correct analogy. It'd be more like this: rather than putting the fruit salad in a plate, you arrange it in a slightly more adventurous way. Not in a 'complex' one (e.g. a pyramid), but still, not as basic as the 4/4 plate.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken<br><font size=1>This is the same with music, when you listen to jazz or progressive rock, or classical music more often it would be much easier for you to make a melody or drum rythm in, let's say, a 9/8.[/QUOTE]
Well, no: 4/4 would still be easier, as it appears a lot in classical, jazz and prog too. It's like: a neurosurgeon would obviously find it easier to cure acute coryza than influenza, even if both are (in most cases) 'basic' illnesses.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gnomo wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Felixk wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There are many Queen songs that are deceptively simple.[/QUOTE]Why don't you go to the Bach community and talk about textbook counterpoints instead of bashing Queen?[/QUOTE]... since when a compliment equals bashing, in English...? [/QUOTE]
Just ignore felix. He learned how to spell the word "pedantic" and just wants to use it to attack Yara.
Just ignore felix. He learned how to spell the word "pedantic" and just wants to use it to attack Yara.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=black face=jazztext>Steve wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Upon listening to The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra's interpretation of Innuendo, which actually followed quite closely to the original format, I realized just how sophisticated and classical the piece is in structure and context. From the rolling of the snare drum, to the epic of contemplation and pain, to the Spanish dance, to the return of contemplation and pain, this song, for lack of a better term, is beautiful. It's probably one of Queen's greatest musical accomplishments and should stand right up their along side Bohemian Rhapsody.[/QUOTE]
yes, i think its easily as good as bohemian. A very good and deep song with alot of meaning. Basically summing up life and our existence here and bring up all the issues and how the species will "keep on trying"
very touching song. It just shows whats happened to music these days when you watch mtv and its basically a talentless bunch of half naked girls who cant sing or play an instrument to save their lives and they "sing" about the most meaningless stuff you can imagine, this world is going to hell...
yes, i think its easily as good as bohemian. A very good and deep song with alot of meaning. Basically summing up life and our existence here and bring up all the issues and how the species will "keep on trying"
very touching song. It just shows whats happened to music these days when you watch mtv and its basically a talentless bunch of half naked girls who cant sing or play an instrument to save their lives and they "sing" about the most meaningless stuff you can imagine, this world is going to hell...