[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Who have you seen doing this? Are you just meaning what is in the Queenzone.com section?[/QUOTE]
You're kidding, right?
Actually, usually the ban request happens in the Queenzone.com section, minutes after an argument in the personal or general section happens.[/QUOTE]
I don't ever bother looking at that section, so I miss all the ban requests. It's not like those requests are granted anyway.
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What happened to Barry Bulsura? I didn't think he was intellegent in the least, but one person asked and he was gone.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What happened to Barry Bulsura? I didn't think he was intellegent in the least, but one person asked and he was gone.
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I didn't know who you were talking about, but I found the ban thread. I do remember the "I will keel you" posts slightly. Wasn't he just a spammer? What's the harm in banning a spammer?
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I didn't know who you were talking about, but I found the ban thread. I do remember the "I will keel you" posts slightly. Wasn't he just a spammer? What's the harm in banning a spammer?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
I did not understand half of your other comments:)[/QUOTE]
I think this is some of what he was meaning.
1) When you post a reply to a thread quite often the last 'Last Post' in the forum does not get updated.
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Yes, this happens if you use a quote in your reply.
I did not understand half of your other comments:)[/QUOTE]
I think this is some of what he was meaning.
1) When you post a reply to a thread quite often the last 'Last Post' in the forum does not get updated.
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Yes, this happens if you use a quote in your reply.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I can't change the script or anything. The moved (or deleted!!) topic only disappears from the original forum when someone posts something new, hence my frequent "reload" posts. The moved topic appears in the new forum wwhen someone posts in the new forum.
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Yes, that's the "refresh" problem I was talking about.
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I did not understand half of your other comments:)[/QUOTE]
Oh I am sorry to read that :-) If you want to know what was I talking about I can try to be more specific. Oder soll ich es auf Deutsch versuchen ? :-)
BTW right now in the html form which I am writing this into, the "subject: " field is empty
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Yes, that's the "refresh" problem I was talking about.
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I did not understand half of your other comments:)[/QUOTE]
Oh I am sorry to read that :-) If you want to know what was I talking about I can try to be more specific. Oder soll ich es auf Deutsch versuchen ? :-)
BTW right now in the html form which I am writing this into, the "subject: " field is empty
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What happened to Barry Bulsura? I didn't think he was intellegent in the least, but one person asked and he was gone.
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I was the one who suggested to ban him and it looks like Barb accepted the reasons.
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I was the one who suggested to ban him and it looks like Barb accepted the reasons.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Well, I'm glad Lisser posted as well. That was a pretty reasonable and well thought out post. Those seem to be few and far between here.
Was I having a bad day? Definitely possible. But, as you pointed out, people get passionate about certain things. Me? Freedom of Speech is a big thing. So is thuggary. So when I see the same people asking "Hey Barb, can you ban..." and then it happens, I wonder (1) How dare anyone tell someone what they can and can't talk about, as long as it isn't causing harm. (2) Why is it the same people demanding this ban?
That left me to believe that there indeed was a Queenzone clique. That, and the way the same people tend to gang up on people here...
But, I stayed off yesterday and see this topic is still going strong, so I just thought I'd add that.
Plus, I think I need to respond to Janet, because you seem a little confused.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Janet wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I remember a thread where you said to Barb
"There are no mass graves being discovered in OUR country. I believe you're German aren't you? So go bury your head in the sand."
And then you stated that no German had the right to throw stones the way that she did, and said that she had forgotten her own history.
What exactly were you insinuating when you said that. Because I interpreted the same way that Barb did. So if I was wrong, why don't you explain exactly what you were trying to say?
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If that is calling someone a Nazi, you need to go back and re-read that thread. NO culture really needs to be "throwing stones", Barb just happened to be from Germany. And went on about a six month "let's bash George Bush campaign". If she were Mongolian, I would have substituted the word.
But thats how Barb, Janet, and a few others interpret things and then go on spread a false claim. In fact, Janet, I challenge you to name a civilization that hasn't trampled on another, besides the American Indian. But that's for another thread that "you remember", not this one.
And that's pretty narrow minded for you to assume I was referring to Nazis even. Germany has a rich and lengthy history to it, you grabbed that one, not me. So maybe it was YOU Janet that was calling a Nazi, or Barb was calling a Nazi. Show me "nazi". Because I sure didn't say it. Mass graves have been happening since the dawn of man.[/QUOTE]
shut up nazi
Was I having a bad day? Definitely possible. But, as you pointed out, people get passionate about certain things. Me? Freedom of Speech is a big thing. So is thuggary. So when I see the same people asking "Hey Barb, can you ban..." and then it happens, I wonder (1) How dare anyone tell someone what they can and can't talk about, as long as it isn't causing harm. (2) Why is it the same people demanding this ban?
That left me to believe that there indeed was a Queenzone clique. That, and the way the same people tend to gang up on people here...
But, I stayed off yesterday and see this topic is still going strong, so I just thought I'd add that.
Plus, I think I need to respond to Janet, because you seem a little confused.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Janet wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I remember a thread where you said to Barb
"There are no mass graves being discovered in OUR country. I believe you're German aren't you? So go bury your head in the sand."
And then you stated that no German had the right to throw stones the way that she did, and said that she had forgotten her own history.
What exactly were you insinuating when you said that. Because I interpreted the same way that Barb did. So if I was wrong, why don't you explain exactly what you were trying to say?
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If that is calling someone a Nazi, you need to go back and re-read that thread. NO culture really needs to be "throwing stones", Barb just happened to be from Germany. And went on about a six month "let's bash George Bush campaign". If she were Mongolian, I would have substituted the word.
But thats how Barb, Janet, and a few others interpret things and then go on spread a false claim. In fact, Janet, I challenge you to name a civilization that hasn't trampled on another, besides the American Indian. But that's for another thread that "you remember", not this one.
And that's pretty narrow minded for you to assume I was referring to Nazis even. Germany has a rich and lengthy history to it, you grabbed that one, not me. So maybe it was YOU Janet that was calling a Nazi, or Barb was calling a Nazi. Show me "nazi". Because I sure didn't say it. Mass graves have been happening since the dawn of man.[/QUOTE]
shut up nazi
Hello Microwave.
Here is your post from the thread that I mentioned:
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"Well Barb, I thought you had a lot more than that. What a small-minded person you are. I'm glad you don't take me seriously. But then, after your childish, niave views on the world, who are you? Keep joining email lists to save the world and blame Bush for everything wrong. You've gotten pretty offensive lately. Problems?
Meanwhile, we're having some real dialogue about the true problem: a viable solution. That's what no one has. We needed a hard line president going into 2000, every American knew that. And it was going to be one of the most difficult times in history for that job. Everyone knew that. So far, he's done what he was elected to do. I'd like to see someone do better.
No mass graves being discovered in our country, I believe you're German. So go bury your head in the sand."
To which HistoryGirl responded:
"That was harsh, Mircowave. You do know that insulting people over something that they have no control over only makes you appear stupid, right?
If you want to place blame on her, because she is German, for what the Germans did almost 100 years ago, then people should rightly be placing blame on us for Slavery almost 300 years ago.
I thought you had more dignity than that, Microwave."
And you answered back:
"Sorry CMU. I get tired of her attacking people because she runs the board. And to say Bush made the world a more dangerous place is no different from what I said to her. Of course I don't blame every German citizen. But no German has the right to throw the stones she likes to. Perhaps she forgets her own history.
But you're, right, maybe it was a little harsh. But blaming Bush for everything is ALL SHE DOES! It gets old and maybe she needs to pull her head out.
Oh, and by the way. The first slave masters were AFRICANS, not Americans. Egyptians had slaves 2000 years before the Europeans, then the Americans (who came from Europe!!!) had."
If I was truly wrong about your comments, and I took what you said out of context, then you have my sincere apology.
My last post on this subject, and on this thread.
Here is your post from the thread that I mentioned:
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"Well Barb, I thought you had a lot more than that. What a small-minded person you are. I'm glad you don't take me seriously. But then, after your childish, niave views on the world, who are you? Keep joining email lists to save the world and blame Bush for everything wrong. You've gotten pretty offensive lately. Problems?
Meanwhile, we're having some real dialogue about the true problem: a viable solution. That's what no one has. We needed a hard line president going into 2000, every American knew that. And it was going to be one of the most difficult times in history for that job. Everyone knew that. So far, he's done what he was elected to do. I'd like to see someone do better.
No mass graves being discovered in our country, I believe you're German. So go bury your head in the sand."
To which HistoryGirl responded:
"That was harsh, Mircowave. You do know that insulting people over something that they have no control over only makes you appear stupid, right?
If you want to place blame on her, because she is German, for what the Germans did almost 100 years ago, then people should rightly be placing blame on us for Slavery almost 300 years ago.
I thought you had more dignity than that, Microwave."
And you answered back:
"Sorry CMU. I get tired of her attacking people because she runs the board. And to say Bush made the world a more dangerous place is no different from what I said to her. Of course I don't blame every German citizen. But no German has the right to throw the stones she likes to. Perhaps she forgets her own history.
But you're, right, maybe it was a little harsh. But blaming Bush for everything is ALL SHE DOES! It gets old and maybe she needs to pull her head out.
Oh, and by the way. The first slave masters were AFRICANS, not Americans. Egyptians had slaves 2000 years before the Europeans, then the Americans (who came from Europe!!!) had."
If I was truly wrong about your comments, and I took what you said out of context, then you have my sincere apology.
My last post on this subject, and on this thread.
If somebody wants to get back to topic - this is one of the this : http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=m5j3ybctvvj&thumb=4
Okay, so I read most of the posts up to about page 5 and got sick of all the flamming and argumentative comments being made.
This is part of the problem on sites like this: personalitys clash. Someone will post their opinion, someone will critisie it, the person get offended and then a huge argument arises. Now, I have, on the odd occasion, posted something, had someone disagree or get "picky" with my post and I have defended what I said, so I'm not exactly innocent here.
But when a perfectly sensible or reasonable discussion turns into a full blown argument with people firing insults at each other (cue the threads with Treasure Moment) that when things go wrong. I think, as a lot of people have said, that people should be more restictive of what they post and, rather than start insulting other posters, they just ignore the culprit and get on with whatever the topic was about. I know this is easier said than done, but it can be done.
This is part of the problem on sites like this: personalitys clash. Someone will post their opinion, someone will critisie it, the person get offended and then a huge argument arises. Now, I have, on the odd occasion, posted something, had someone disagree or get "picky" with my post and I have defended what I said, so I'm not exactly innocent here.
But when a perfectly sensible or reasonable discussion turns into a full blown argument with people firing insults at each other (cue the threads with Treasure Moment) that when things go wrong. I think, as a lot of people have said, that people should be more restictive of what they post and, rather than start insulting other posters, they just ignore the culprit and get on with whatever the topic was about. I know this is easier said than done, but it can be done.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
shut up nazi[/QUOTE]
Can we ban this guy?
:)
That was funny, Zeb. Maybe you should be in charge of banning...
as soon as you get a haircut, hippie.
shut up nazi[/QUOTE]
Can we ban this guy?
:)
That was funny, Zeb. Maybe you should be in charge of banning...
as soon as you get a haircut, hippie.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Killer Queenie Boo wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Now, I have, on the odd occasion, posted something, had someone disagree or get "picky" with my post and I have defended what I said, so I'm not exactly innocent here.[/QUOTE]
Yes, like when I called the entire Queenzone community a bunch of armed nazi rapists with AIDS...
or some such.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Killer Queenie Boo continues: [/QUOTENAME]
But when a perfectly sensible or reasonable discussion turns into a full blown argument with people firing insults at each other (cue the threads with Treasure Moment) that when things go wrong. [/QUOTE]
Well, actually I was thinking that his threads seem to get the most response. Why is that?
Yes, like when I called the entire Queenzone community a bunch of armed nazi rapists with AIDS...
or some such.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Killer Queenie Boo continues: [/QUOTENAME]
But when a perfectly sensible or reasonable discussion turns into a full blown argument with people firing insults at each other (cue the threads with Treasure Moment) that when things go wrong. [/QUOTE]
Well, actually I was thinking that his threads seem to get the most response. Why is that?
If I can get my two-cents in...
As one of the people on the ignorant side of the QZ board, I know when I can and when I can't contribute to a discussion. But I think some people don't know when they haven't got a clue about what they are saying, and that's part of the problem with the place. Some people post arguments without ever backing them in a logical manner, and instead--as it has been mentioned--start personally attacking the thread-starter/ posters who disagree.
Also, I would like to object to the whole "teens have no idea what they are talking about." I read enough posts on Queenzone, and find that some of the most intelligent and thought-provoking topics are started by teenagers (Steve, Yara, etc.)... Both post brilliant discussion topics that everyone can contribute to, and learn from, and they are both teenagers. Yes, I agree some of Queenzoners biggest spammers are clueless teenagers, who haven't a clue what track comes from what album, barely know the names of the band members, etc, but be fair. Some teenagers are part of the solution, while some adults are part of the problem.
Basically, my question for the Queenzone community in general (I will not name names, because flaming, again, is part of the issue): if you don't have a constructive topic to start, or a constructive reply to make, why even bother?
The other issue I think is happening--though others will definitely disagree with me in this area--perhaps the Queenzone community's topics are getting more and more stale because people have run out of things to talk about. I mean, I'm as big a Queen fan as the next girl, but honestly, what besides We Will Rock You, re-re-re-releases of age-old material, and Q+PR have they done lately? Nothing really recent to talk about...then there are the other questions, like meaning of lyrics, for example. In this example alone, people get a) flamed for starting the topic, b) foolish responses, like "that song is about AIDS" (popular reply, actually), or c) funneled to a website with an interpretation. Then there are questions with straightforward answers, like "Did Freddie sing the bridge in Sail away Sweet Sister?" These types *usually* don't create much discussion because the answer is the answer, with no room for debate, really. Sometimes, these threads also just turn into flame thread because someone will start "yelling" at the topic-starter for asking a "stupid" question. Sometimes--and this is what I loathe most--instead of just letting the thread close, people will return and continue to add comments that have nothing to do with the original question, like "I ate zucchini. It was good." Sheer idiot replies.
But I believe the topic-starter is looking for a way to correct the problem. How I answer that, myself, is what can be done? The culpable posters must stop themselves or be stopped by others. That is the only way. Yes, the idea to reorganize the website is a terrific idea, but I believe that the new board would become spammed up, too, before long. But, since I have no better idea, I say it is worth a shot.
Maybe this post was repeptitive, and more or less restated what others have already said. Maybe it was stupid, and nonsensical, with no thought process. Either way...there it is.
Bottom line (I hate reading long posts): I believe the problem is people don't know when to reply anymore. My advice: If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything. It's completely up to the individual member to decide whether or not their posts are idiotic, and therefore, the problem can only be resolved if a poster/ the posters in question recognize that they have nothing to contribute to certain/ all topics, and don't reply/ leave the board.
As one of the people on the ignorant side of the QZ board, I know when I can and when I can't contribute to a discussion. But I think some people don't know when they haven't got a clue about what they are saying, and that's part of the problem with the place. Some people post arguments without ever backing them in a logical manner, and instead--as it has been mentioned--start personally attacking the thread-starter/ posters who disagree.
Also, I would like to object to the whole "teens have no idea what they are talking about." I read enough posts on Queenzone, and find that some of the most intelligent and thought-provoking topics are started by teenagers (Steve, Yara, etc.)... Both post brilliant discussion topics that everyone can contribute to, and learn from, and they are both teenagers. Yes, I agree some of Queenzoners biggest spammers are clueless teenagers, who haven't a clue what track comes from what album, barely know the names of the band members, etc, but be fair. Some teenagers are part of the solution, while some adults are part of the problem.
Basically, my question for the Queenzone community in general (I will not name names, because flaming, again, is part of the issue): if you don't have a constructive topic to start, or a constructive reply to make, why even bother?
The other issue I think is happening--though others will definitely disagree with me in this area--perhaps the Queenzone community's topics are getting more and more stale because people have run out of things to talk about. I mean, I'm as big a Queen fan as the next girl, but honestly, what besides We Will Rock You, re-re-re-releases of age-old material, and Q+PR have they done lately? Nothing really recent to talk about...then there are the other questions, like meaning of lyrics, for example. In this example alone, people get a) flamed for starting the topic, b) foolish responses, like "that song is about AIDS" (popular reply, actually), or c) funneled to a website with an interpretation. Then there are questions with straightforward answers, like "Did Freddie sing the bridge in Sail away Sweet Sister?" These types *usually* don't create much discussion because the answer is the answer, with no room for debate, really. Sometimes, these threads also just turn into flame thread because someone will start "yelling" at the topic-starter for asking a "stupid" question. Sometimes--and this is what I loathe most--instead of just letting the thread close, people will return and continue to add comments that have nothing to do with the original question, like "I ate zucchini. It was good." Sheer idiot replies.
But I believe the topic-starter is looking for a way to correct the problem. How I answer that, myself, is what can be done? The culpable posters must stop themselves or be stopped by others. That is the only way. Yes, the idea to reorganize the website is a terrific idea, but I believe that the new board would become spammed up, too, before long. But, since I have no better idea, I say it is worth a shot.
Maybe this post was repeptitive, and more or less restated what others have already said. Maybe it was stupid, and nonsensical, with no thought process. Either way...there it is.
Bottom line (I hate reading long posts): I believe the problem is people don't know when to reply anymore. My advice: If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything. It's completely up to the individual member to decide whether or not their posts are idiotic, and therefore, the problem can only be resolved if a poster/ the posters in question recognize that they have nothing to contribute to certain/ all topics, and don't reply/ leave the board.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
That was funny, Zeb. Maybe you should be in charge of banning... [/QUOTE]
I'm working on it... I'd be the best moderator.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
as soon as you get a haircut, hippie.[/QUOTE]
As I explained to Faron Hyte - already done.
That was funny, Zeb. Maybe you should be in charge of banning... [/QUOTE]
I'm working on it... I'd be the best moderator.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
as soon as you get a haircut, hippie.[/QUOTE]
As I explained to Faron Hyte - already done.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>Valentine <h6> from Hell wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Bottom line (I hate reading long posts): I believe the problem is people don't know when to reply anymore. My advice: If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything. It's completely up to the individual member to decide whether or not their posts are idiotic, and therefore, the problem can only be resolved if a poster/ the posters in question recognize that they have nothing to contribute to certain/ all topics, and don't reply/ leave the board. [/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Bottom line (I hate reading long posts): I believe the problem is people don't know when to reply anymore. My advice: If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything. It's completely up to the individual member to decide whether or not their posts are idiotic, and therefore, the problem can only be resolved if a poster/ the posters in question recognize that they have nothing to contribute to certain/ all topics, and don't reply/ leave the board. [/QUOTE]
Agreed.