[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Serry... wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I still can't understand how some people can compare My Baby Does Me - the great relax atmospheric track - with such shit from early albums like Some Day One Day or She Makes Me?! [/QUOTE]
SO TRUE WITH THAT!
I think those two Brian songs were very dull, especially She Makes Me. I haven't listened to the thing for years because of how dull and lame it sounds. I hate that song so much. I don't even think of it when there's "Which Queen songs do you hate" topics, because I try to forget about that one.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jacob Britt wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Serry... wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I still can't understand how some people can compare My Baby Does Me - the great relax atmospheric track - with such shit from early albums like Some Day One Day or She Makes Me?! [/QUOTE]
SO TRUE WITH THAT!
I think those two Brian songs were very dull, especially She Makes Me. I haven't listened to the thing for years because of how dull and lame it sounds. I hate that song so much. I don't even think of it when there's "Which Queen songs do you hate" topics, because I try to forget about that one.[/QUOTE] she makes me is the weakest song on SHA, but some day one day is great IMO. As far as "my baby does me" goes, When I first got the miracle way back in 1989 I never listened to that song, but over time my musical taste changed, and now love it. It's one of the Queen songs I always go back to. the worst song on the miracle is rogers invisible man. Back to the topic of freddie ballads, the last great queen love ballad freddie wrote was the brilliant it's a hard life.
SO TRUE WITH THAT!
I think those two Brian songs were very dull, especially She Makes Me. I haven't listened to the thing for years because of how dull and lame it sounds. I hate that song so much. I don't even think of it when there's "Which Queen songs do you hate" topics, because I try to forget about that one.[/QUOTE] she makes me is the weakest song on SHA, but some day one day is great IMO. As far as "my baby does me" goes, When I first got the miracle way back in 1989 I never listened to that song, but over time my musical taste changed, and now love it. It's one of the Queen songs I always go back to. the worst song on the miracle is rogers invisible man. Back to the topic of freddie ballads, the last great queen love ballad freddie wrote was the brilliant it's a hard life.
i THINK THEY{RE PERFECT THE WAY THEY ARE
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jacob Britt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
He came up with some great songs on A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo, as well as Made In Heaven, but it seems he just didn't write the good old love ballads he used to write.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with that really. His songs on AKOM are nothing to write home about. PotU is decent but is mostly good in the arrangment and production. Friends Will Be Friends and Pain Is So Close to Pleasure are mediocre. The Miracle is a nice track but nothing spectacular and My Baby Does Me is completely forgettable. I forget how much of Was It All Worth It he was responsible for. And while I enjoyed his songwriting contributions on Innuendo, his songs are not the strongest material on the album by any stretch of the imagination. I'm Going Slightly Mad wouldn't be nearly as well thought of without the bittersweetly amusing video that went with it. MIH was a beautifully produced hodgepodge of material that owes as much or more to the producing and arranging talents of May, Taylor and Deacon as it does to Freddie's songwriting.
So I stand by my original assertion: I think that, post-The Game, Freddie just had weaker songwriting chops, certainly compared to the material he wrote in the '70s. Which is fine, because he'd already written more masterpieces than most people come up with in an entire career and because the band had three other excellent songwriters to pick up his slack. And there was slack to pick up, regardles of how much that offends the Cult of Fred.
But imagine where Queen, the brand name, would be now without Radio Ga Ga, I Want to Break Free, Hammer to Fall, A Kind of Magic, Who Wants to Live Forever, I Want It All, The Show Must Go On, These Are the Days of Our Lives, et cetera. Nowhere near the longevity and continued public profile.
He came up with some great songs on A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle, and Innuendo, as well as Made In Heaven, but it seems he just didn't write the good old love ballads he used to write.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with that really. His songs on AKOM are nothing to write home about. PotU is decent but is mostly good in the arrangment and production. Friends Will Be Friends and Pain Is So Close to Pleasure are mediocre. The Miracle is a nice track but nothing spectacular and My Baby Does Me is completely forgettable. I forget how much of Was It All Worth It he was responsible for. And while I enjoyed his songwriting contributions on Innuendo, his songs are not the strongest material on the album by any stretch of the imagination. I'm Going Slightly Mad wouldn't be nearly as well thought of without the bittersweetly amusing video that went with it. MIH was a beautifully produced hodgepodge of material that owes as much or more to the producing and arranging talents of May, Taylor and Deacon as it does to Freddie's songwriting.
So I stand by my original assertion: I think that, post-The Game, Freddie just had weaker songwriting chops, certainly compared to the material he wrote in the '70s. Which is fine, because he'd already written more masterpieces than most people come up with in an entire career and because the band had three other excellent songwriters to pick up his slack. And there was slack to pick up, regardles of how much that offends the Cult of Fred.
But imagine where Queen, the brand name, would be now without Radio Ga Ga, I Want to Break Free, Hammer to Fall, A Kind of Magic, Who Wants to Live Forever, I Want It All, The Show Must Go On, These Are the Days of Our Lives, et cetera. Nowhere near the longevity and continued public profile.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Lindsay never recorded another song with Fleetwood Mac, and the band went down the tubes shortly thereafter.[/QUOTE]
You know, I assume, that they released an excellent album of all-new material, with Mr. Buckingham, in 2003, and toured very successfully in support of it. "Say You Will" I believe it was called. Much of it, again, culled from material for a solo album he was spending a decade working on.
Lindsay never recorded another song with Fleetwood Mac, and the band went down the tubes shortly thereafter.[/QUOTE]
You know, I assume, that they released an excellent album of all-new material, with Mr. Buckingham, in 2003, and toured very successfully in support of it. "Say You Will" I believe it was called. Much of it, again, culled from material for a solo album he was spending a decade working on.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]P-Staker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
As for unreleased songs, I can't for the life of me understand why Queen can't publish a B-sides and rarities album. They've got a ton of great material just sitting there, while the band's busy telling off c-lebrities...[/QUOTE]
They're obviously saving that material for an end-of-the-line release. And as for the currently-constituted band and their c-lebrity output, it is possible, is it not, that regardless of your own feelings about the material, they're having more fun working on new material and enjoying the interaction they have with a living singer than they would have sitting in a studio for months on end, trying to piece together 25 and 30 year old material into viable commercial releases which they would have no opportunity to tour in support of since that material would feature a dead singer?
As for unreleased songs, I can't for the life of me understand why Queen can't publish a B-sides and rarities album. They've got a ton of great material just sitting there, while the band's busy telling off c-lebrities...[/QUOTE]
They're obviously saving that material for an end-of-the-line release. And as for the currently-constituted band and their c-lebrity output, it is possible, is it not, that regardless of your own feelings about the material, they're having more fun working on new material and enjoying the interaction they have with a living singer than they would have sitting in a studio for months on end, trying to piece together 25 and 30 year old material into viable commercial releases which they would have no opportunity to tour in support of since that material would feature a dead singer?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr Faron Hyte wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]P-Staker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
As for unreleased songs, I can't for the life of me understand why Queen can't publish a B-sides and rarities album. They've got a ton of great material just sitting there, while the band's busy telling off c-lebrities...[/QUOTE]
They're obviously saving that material for an end-of-the-line release. And as for the currently-constituted band and their c-lebrity output, it is possible, is it not, that regardless of your own feelings about the material, they're having more fun working on new material and enjoying the interaction they have with a living singer than they would have sitting in a studio for months on end, trying to piece together 25 and 30 year old material into viable commercial releases which they would have no opportunity to tour in support of since that material would feature a dead singer?[/QUOTE]
Not "they", Brian. I think he's the main catalyst for these things, and he's been too busy with the musical, then Bang! and the pHD. Now Q+PR. Don't really blame him, but it's a shame.
I just really hope that they keep the Queen rarities completely separate from any Q+PR "rarities"/extras and don't end up mixing the two. i have no problem with Q+PR, as I consider the name change enough of a distinction (please, no-one re-open that here...), but wouldn't want "real-Queen" and Q+PR mixed up together.
I think it'd be good if Brian turned his attention to the Queen archives and finished the QVHIII and box set projects after the tour. Get that finished, and then continue with the Q+PR stuff.
As for unreleased songs, I can't for the life of me understand why Queen can't publish a B-sides and rarities album. They've got a ton of great material just sitting there, while the band's busy telling off c-lebrities...[/QUOTE]
They're obviously saving that material for an end-of-the-line release. And as for the currently-constituted band and their c-lebrity output, it is possible, is it not, that regardless of your own feelings about the material, they're having more fun working on new material and enjoying the interaction they have with a living singer than they would have sitting in a studio for months on end, trying to piece together 25 and 30 year old material into viable commercial releases which they would have no opportunity to tour in support of since that material would feature a dead singer?[/QUOTE]
Not "they", Brian. I think he's the main catalyst for these things, and he's been too busy with the musical, then Bang! and the pHD. Now Q+PR. Don't really blame him, but it's a shame.
I just really hope that they keep the Queen rarities completely separate from any Q+PR "rarities"/extras and don't end up mixing the two. i have no problem with Q+PR, as I consider the name change enough of a distinction (please, no-one re-open that here...), but wouldn't want "real-Queen" and Q+PR mixed up together.
I think it'd be good if Brian turned his attention to the Queen archives and finished the QVHIII and box set projects after the tour. Get that finished, and then continue with the Q+PR stuff.