[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Listen, I'm not jumpin on you or getting "freaked out" by anything. I'm merely trying to say that these things you mention are your personal preference and don't hold anything for me. Whereas the engineering comments I make are real tips on how to fix things, and therefore aren't just my own way of looking at something. That's all. But your opinion is just that, your opinion. So, they're not the same, which is why we disagree on the drum sound. Cool? We must agree to disagree on that one.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough :)
[QUOTE]If you want to throw some tracks towards me, I could try doing something with them, if you wish. Always glad to help out.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
Okie, sounds like a plan. I will see if Josh will help me get something going this week.
Mind you, we are preparing for a small show on Sunday, so I don't know just yet if it can be done this week.
However, I will record two or three alternate takes with different fills and all, and you can see which one feels best to mix in.
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Adam,
I question my speakers because (1.) they're old and (2.) they suck. I'll send the song to my iPod and see if that makes a difference, but the vox do seem to disappear at a few points
As to LOTG, I was incorrect. I dug up the thread (http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1056857), and it was Aric who mentioned working on that one.
I question my speakers because (1.) they're old and (2.) they suck. I'll send the song to my iPod and see if that makes a difference, but the vox do seem to disappear at a few points
As to LOTG, I was incorrect. I dug up the thread (http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1056857), and it was Aric who mentioned working on that one.
Superb, really.
Love the piano, very 'theatrical' (for lack of a better word).
The ending of the first chorus ('kill you') is wonderfully sung, as well as 'my shoes' and 'the end'.
I didn't like the drums though, not much in terms of sound but performance... somehow they lack an appropriate connexion with the rest of the instruments IMO. Or maybe they don't, but piano, bass, vocals and guitars are way better so this is like a VW Beetle in a car park full of Ferrari's.
Love the piano, very 'theatrical' (for lack of a better word).
The ending of the first chorus ('kill you') is wonderfully sung, as well as 'my shoes' and 'the end'.
I didn't like the drums though, not much in terms of sound but performance... somehow they lack an appropriate connexion with the rest of the instruments IMO. Or maybe they don't, but piano, bass, vocals and guitars are way better so this is like a VW Beetle in a car park full of Ferrari's.
Thanks for the comments Seb.
Drums in question again. Hmm...see, I should say that I wanted my brother to redo them for me, but he said it was good as it was. I came round to that thought as well. But with comments about the drums coming up more and more, maybe I should bring my bro in to replace them.
I very much appreciate these comments folks as it helps me a lot to understand how it comes across. Living with this song for the last 3 weeks (the idea for 3 months!) can leave a one-sided look at things. So, it's nice to see the same thing discussed again and again as it shows that maybe my thought at the time was correct.
Adam.
P.s. I think Stu will like the theatrical piano comment Seb! He is that!
Drums in question again. Hmm...see, I should say that I wanted my brother to redo them for me, but he said it was good as it was. I came round to that thought as well. But with comments about the drums coming up more and more, maybe I should bring my bro in to replace them.
I very much appreciate these comments folks as it helps me a lot to understand how it comes across. Living with this song for the last 3 weeks (the idea for 3 months!) can leave a one-sided look at things. So, it's nice to see the same thing discussed again and again as it shows that maybe my thought at the time was correct.
Adam.
P.s. I think Stu will like the theatrical piano comment Seb! He is that!
I haven't got any clue what you guys are talking here about (mainly because I can hardly speak English, less because I ain't musician), but the track is very good (vocals and piano especially), IMHO. Much better than a lot of covers by 'famous' artists.
Cheers Serry, you're very kind.
I think that as fans, we have a specific viewpoint on these songs and their sound. So, that comes into play when mentioning the drums, I think.
I'm just talking with the piano man and we're talking about the drums. I'm formulating a plan...
Adam.
I think that as fans, we have a specific viewpoint on these songs and their sound. So, that comes into play when mentioning the drums, I think.
I'm just talking with the piano man and we're talking about the drums. I'm formulating a plan...
Adam.
Adam,
Dosen't that seem like a whole lot of extra work to try to appease random folks?
Just sayin'....if you were happy with it to begin with, who gives a rats ass what anyone here thinks as far as changing what you've done.
I say, leave it well enough alone. It's just a bloody cover song.
Dosen't that seem like a whole lot of extra work to try to appease random folks?
Just sayin'....if you were happy with it to begin with, who gives a rats ass what anyone here thinks as far as changing what you've done.
I say, leave it well enough alone. It's just a bloody cover song.
Adam,
I liked it . I am impressed with the singing as I hate that part of my stuff and tend to bury it way down....Your vox overall were very nice!!
The snare to me didn't sit well. The cymbal crashes/chinas sound horribly old midi-ish.The intro break does have a stuttery kinda 'off-time' feel to it. Guitar was nicely played.After the unison bend intro the band seems to fall away....it seems empty IMO. (It may be like the original Q version....I'm not sure so am just going on a 1-2 time listen)Thats just how it came across to me? The impression on listening dry...
The quality of recording is vastly more refined than my cheapo laptop and 3.5mm mic in setup. Damn .....I need to learn your mastering talents!!
Credit to you.Well done!!
So, you are having ITLOTG...revisited? I have the 1st one done but ...not shown yet..
I liked it . I am impressed with the singing as I hate that part of my stuff and tend to bury it way down....Your vox overall were very nice!!
The snare to me didn't sit well. The cymbal crashes/chinas sound horribly old midi-ish.The intro break does have a stuttery kinda 'off-time' feel to it. Guitar was nicely played.After the unison bend intro the band seems to fall away....it seems empty IMO. (It may be like the original Q version....I'm not sure so am just going on a 1-2 time listen)Thats just how it came across to me? The impression on listening dry...
The quality of recording is vastly more refined than my cheapo laptop and 3.5mm mic in setup. Damn .....I need to learn your mastering talents!!
Credit to you.Well done!!
So, you are having ITLOTG...revisited? I have the 1st one done but ...not shown yet..
Thanks for your comments Ludwigs. I am proud of the vocals because until this last year, TMLWKY has always been out of reach. But my voice must be getting stronger as I can sing it a lot easier than ever. I'm in a good place right now. :)
On the cymbals...ehm...they're real! I replaced the BFD ones with my brothers' cymbals. Not midi'd at all.
On the snare, I do wonder if it needs some EQ to sit more in the track.
And yeah, it's like the Queen version at the end, so there is a quiet spot. There's a synth in the background to combat that.
The soundcard makes a difference, but then so does the equipment (mics, outboard) used to go through it. I recommend a quality card to get the best from recording as it'll really open up the sound. I was using a Roland/Edirol UA-101 which got me excellent recordings. Back in March I upgraded things for my video business and got an M-audio Project Mix and that's another good interface. The latter was mainly what I recorded TMLWKY on, actually.
Btw, it was a misunderstanding that I was doing ITLOTG...rev cover. Not at all, I'm afraid. Sounds like an interesting one though.
Adam.
On the cymbals...ehm...they're real! I replaced the BFD ones with my brothers' cymbals. Not midi'd at all.
On the snare, I do wonder if it needs some EQ to sit more in the track.
And yeah, it's like the Queen version at the end, so there is a quiet spot. There's a synth in the background to combat that.
The soundcard makes a difference, but then so does the equipment (mics, outboard) used to go through it. I recommend a quality card to get the best from recording as it'll really open up the sound. I was using a Roland/Edirol UA-101 which got me excellent recordings. Back in March I upgraded things for my video business and got an M-audio Project Mix and that's another good interface. The latter was mainly what I recorded TMLWKY on, actually.
Btw, it was a misunderstanding that I was doing ITLOTG...rev cover. Not at all, I'm afraid. Sounds like an interesting one though.
Adam.
Yep, really, really good. Good vocal performance Adam. Not one of Queen's better songs. . . but you all did it justice, I think.
dave
dave
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Dosen't that seem like a whole lot of extra work to try to appease random folks?[/QUOTE]
It may be as simple as using my brother's drumming from another cover to make a groove template and attach that to the drums already there. Just need to figure out how to do it! But I'm sure it's possible. That way, it should get a feel similar to my brother's drumming. :)
Adam.
It may be as simple as using my brother's drumming from another cover to make a groove template and attach that to the drums already there. Just need to figure out how to do it! But I'm sure it's possible. That way, it should get a feel similar to my brother's drumming. :)
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Dosen't that seem like a whole lot of extra work to try to appease random folks?[/QUOTE]
It may be as simple as using my brother's drumming from another cover to make a groove template and attach that to the drums already there. Just need to figure out how to do it! But I'm sure it's possible. That way, it should get a feel similar to my brother's drumming. :)
Adam.[/QUOTE]
If it takes too long to get that done, I can get the same bits done in 5 minutes :)
It may be as simple as using my brother's drumming from another cover to make a groove template and attach that to the drums already there. Just need to figure out how to do it! But I'm sure it's possible. That way, it should get a feel similar to my brother's drumming. :)
Adam.[/QUOTE]
If it takes too long to get that done, I can get the same bits done in 5 minutes :)
Inu, applying a groove takes less than 5 seconds... :P
Okay, I'm listening and replying before reading the comments:
1. Nice, balanced mix. Individual sounds are all very good. The guitar playing was very nice, I liked the laid back timing. Had a lot of feel.
2. The lead vocal is a good performance. Stylistically, I don't like hearing the slurred consonants but that seems to be pretty popular with younger singers these days.
3. There is a timing issue when the drums enter. They seem to drag, big time, at the entry. After that they line up okay.
Those are the criticisms that stuck out to me.
1. Nice, balanced mix. Individual sounds are all very good. The guitar playing was very nice, I liked the laid back timing. Had a lot of feel.
2. The lead vocal is a good performance. Stylistically, I don't like hearing the slurred consonants but that seems to be pretty popular with younger singers these days.
3. There is a timing issue when the drums enter. They seem to drag, big time, at the entry. After that they line up okay.
Those are the criticisms that stuck out to me.
I definitely agree with the drum fill start, it is slow. Just needs the human touch. I'll get to it sometime. As for the singing, I've learnt all I know from Freddie. Blame him!! lol
Adam.
Adam.