[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Who started it? I would say placing NATO missiles in Turkey was a catalyst. [/QUOTE]
Well, that it was. But NATO is not the US, we may be President but we're also a member!
I gave one thing Kennedy did, there were quite a few more. But if you're dismissing him as being as important to the world as Princess Diana, c'mon... you can't be serious?
But even if Kennedy was a son of a bitch and murdered millions, would he not be more significant than Princess Diana as well?
My point was American conspiracies are much more exciting. We still wonder 'who killed Kennedy' because he mattered so much. I think the only people who care about the Diana tragedy sometimes is CNN or some other news agency.
I don't think just Americans are attracted to conspiracy theories, as John may be suggesting. I just think ours are better conspiracies.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Who started it? I would say placing NATO missiles in Turkey was a catalyst. [/QUOTE]
Well, that it was. But NATO is not the US, we may be President but we're also a member!
I gave one thing Kennedy did, there were quite a few more. But if you're dismissing him as being as important to the world as Princess Diana, c'mon... you can't be serious?[/QUOTE]
Your last four words ;)
Who started it? I would say placing NATO missiles in Turkey was a catalyst. [/QUOTE]
Well, that it was. But NATO is not the US, we may be President but we're also a member!
I gave one thing Kennedy did, there were quite a few more. But if you're dismissing him as being as important to the world as Princess Diana, c'mon... you can't be serious?[/QUOTE]
Your last four words ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, but at least our conspiracy theories are WORTH being conspiracy theories.
The big one I don't understand is the Princess Diana conspiracy. Ok. So maybe it was a conspiracy. Let's say, for argument's sake, it was a conspiracy and someone DID have her killed. Big Deal. But all these Brits care.
Why?[/QUOTE]
The funny thing about all the Princess Diana's death conspiracy theories is that every week there's a new one mentioned in the tabloids and all the sensationalist media, and they were the ones who killed her.[/QUOTE]
actually,the Brits DONT care for the Diana conspiracy.its one man and ONE man only thats had the 'royal mafia' conspiracy and that is Mohammed Al Fayed.this silly sod wont let it rest and refuses to believe that his sons death and the death of Diana was caused by his hired drunk driver Henri Paul.so far his lunacy has cost the British tax payer around £10m in legal costs as his conspiracy theories ramble on day after day and year after year.it only gets press because of who she WAS.
however,just to give him some backing the Daily Express newspaper had bloody Diana on its front page EVERY day for YEARS claiming she was murdered until they realised [eventually] that all they were doing was alienating [and losing] its readers and making an ass out of itself.
hopefully now,after the recent Old Bailey Courtcase this sorry affair can now have a very big line drawn under it and the woman can be left to rest in peace.
The big one I don't understand is the Princess Diana conspiracy. Ok. So maybe it was a conspiracy. Let's say, for argument's sake, it was a conspiracy and someone DID have her killed. Big Deal. But all these Brits care.
Why?[/QUOTE]
The funny thing about all the Princess Diana's death conspiracy theories is that every week there's a new one mentioned in the tabloids and all the sensationalist media, and they were the ones who killed her.[/QUOTE]
actually,the Brits DONT care for the Diana conspiracy.its one man and ONE man only thats had the 'royal mafia' conspiracy and that is Mohammed Al Fayed.this silly sod wont let it rest and refuses to believe that his sons death and the death of Diana was caused by his hired drunk driver Henri Paul.so far his lunacy has cost the British tax payer around £10m in legal costs as his conspiracy theories ramble on day after day and year after year.it only gets press because of who she WAS.
however,just to give him some backing the Daily Express newspaper had bloody Diana on its front page EVERY day for YEARS claiming she was murdered until they realised [eventually] that all they were doing was alienating [and losing] its readers and making an ass out of itself.
hopefully now,after the recent Old Bailey Courtcase this sorry affair can now have a very big line drawn under it and the woman can be left to rest in peace.
I think conspiracy theories always start when the public feel they are not informed correctly or they don't get an answer that satisfies them. In the JFK murder it was just not good enough that a simple killer was responsible for the death of someone so big and popular like Kennedy. Pretty much the same happened in the Diana case. Many people could not cope with the profanity of her death, so they wanted it to be a bigger plot. The Diana case was also the most astonishing case of mass hysteria I can remember. In the Jack The Ripper case people had a feeling that they were not told the truth - the victims were lowest class, so maybe the killer was protected by the police? Maybe a member of the Royal family? And did not papers disappear from the Ripper files, so when they were finally opened, not much was left? Even more fuel for suspicion.
In the 9/11 case the mistrust of the public in such cases was increased by obviously wrong answers given by the officials very quickly. There was never a proper criminal investigation and many answers proved wrong thus giving room for the explosion of more and more conspiracy theories. I don't think it's a specific American phenomenon, American conspiracy theories are just bigger and get more international attention.
In cases of big public interest the slightest mistake or misinformation can start a conspiracy theory and there is always *some* mistakes or misunderstandings and off they go.
In the 9/11 case the mistrust of the public in such cases was increased by obviously wrong answers given by the officials very quickly. There was never a proper criminal investigation and many answers proved wrong thus giving room for the explosion of more and more conspiracy theories. I don't think it's a specific American phenomenon, American conspiracy theories are just bigger and get more international attention.
In cases of big public interest the slightest mistake or misinformation can start a conspiracy theory and there is always *some* mistakes or misunderstandings and off they go.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]because the theories are true[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, but at least our conspiracy theories are WORTH being conspiracy theories.
The big one I don't understand is the Princess Diana conspiracy. Ok. So maybe it was a conspiracy. Let's say, for argument's sake, it was a conspiracy and someone DID have her killed. Big Deal. But all these Brits care.
Why?[/QUOTE]
The funny thing about all the Princess Diana's death conspiracy theories is that every week there's a new one mentioned in the tabloids and all the sensationalist media, and they were the ones who killed her.[/QUOTE]
What better way to distract people to keep from blaming them?
The big one I don't understand is the Princess Diana conspiracy. Ok. So maybe it was a conspiracy. Let's say, for argument's sake, it was a conspiracy and someone DID have her killed. Big Deal. But all these Brits care.
Why?[/QUOTE]
The funny thing about all the Princess Diana's death conspiracy theories is that every week there's a new one mentioned in the tabloids and all the sensationalist media, and they were the ones who killed her.[/QUOTE]
What better way to distract people to keep from blaming them?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why are Americans so attracted to conspiracy theories?[/QUOTE]
Americans in general hold personal "freedom" in greater value than perhaps any other nation, and therefore they question the motives of anybody who has any power over them. This is why most (if not all) of the conspiracy theories include the government in its various levels.
In most other countries the people are either confident in the their government's (in)ability, or know for a fact that it's a rotten piece of crap anyway.
Americans in general hold personal "freedom" in greater value than perhaps any other nation, and therefore they question the motives of anybody who has any power over them. This is why most (if not all) of the conspiracy theories include the government in its various levels.
In most other countries the people are either confident in the their government's (in)ability, or know for a fact that it's a rotten piece of crap anyway.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]this is NOT a conspiracy theory but FACT
we are heading towards a 1 world totalitarian government and we will all be slaves soon, monitored and controlled 24 hours.[/QUOTE]
we are heading towards a 1 world totalitarian government and we will all be slaves soon, monitored and controlled 24 hours.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]this is NOT a conspiracy theory but FACT
we are heading towards a 1 world totalitarian government and we will all be slaves soon, monitored and controlled 24 hours.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Well, best to prepare I say. I'm getting pretty good at memorizing pictures from Google Earth. Once they take away our Google Earth, I'll have it all up here (*points to head*).
we are heading towards a 1 world totalitarian government and we will all be slaves soon, monitored and controlled 24 hours.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Well, best to prepare I say. I'm getting pretty good at memorizing pictures from Google Earth. Once they take away our Google Earth, I'll have it all up here (*points to head*).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Americans in general hold personal "freedom" in greater value than perhaps any other nation, and therefore they question the motives of anybody who has any power over them. This is why most (if not all) of the conspiracy theories include the government in its various levels.
In most other countries the people are either confident in the their government's (in)ability, or know for a fact that it's a rotten piece of crap anyway. [/QUOTE]
This is so perfect.
Americans in general hold personal "freedom" in greater value than perhaps any other nation, and therefore they question the motives of anybody who has any power over them. This is why most (if not all) of the conspiracy theories include the government in its various levels.
In most other countries the people are either confident in the their government's (in)ability, or know for a fact that it's a rotten piece of crap anyway. [/QUOTE]
This is so perfect.
I am too attracted to conspiracy theories and I think it has to do with that I´d like to think that there is more to things than meets the eyes. I am, however, not beliving that G.W.B is working with aliens and stuff like that. But I do think that the JFK assasination was a government thingi.
hmm...FDR himself said 'if something happens, it's been planned...' imho it's because the Boston Tea Party never ended
Well Me personally....
....I like to do something that American frowns upon nowadays. It's called thinking. Not the most popular concept in the world, but it works for me.
I never believe anything the government tells me.
....I like to do something that American frowns upon nowadays. It's called thinking. Not the most popular concept in the world, but it works for me.
I never believe anything the government tells me.
Here's a thought I'm very surprised no-one has pointed out yet...
In 1997, an ultra-conservative group of 'thinkers' formed a research institute, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
These folks who argued for Middle East invasions to promote 'American empire and hegemony' included Scooter Libby, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and....Dick Cheney.
'thinking' is overrated. thinking only changes gray matter. I want action !!!!
the enemy is the human mind, or lack of it. DEVOLUTION IS REAL. this one's sooo obvious, even the wikipedia article is accurate. Tea anyone?
In 1997, an ultra-conservative group of 'thinkers' formed a research institute, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
These folks who argued for Middle East invasions to promote 'American empire and hegemony' included Scooter Libby, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and....Dick Cheney.
'thinking' is overrated. thinking only changes gray matter. I want action !!!!
the enemy is the human mind, or lack of it. DEVOLUTION IS REAL. this one's sooo obvious, even the wikipedia article is accurate. Tea anyone?