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They ROCKED!!! I loved it!!
keep showin em hows it's done!!!
I can't WAIT for the album and tour!!!!
keep showin em hows it's done!!!
I can't WAIT for the album and tour!!!!
It always seems to come up these days, doesn't it? The hate of whatever Brian and Roger do. Nothing seems good enough. Well, I pity those who must find fault in Bri n Rog cause I'm happy to see/hear them and enjoy what they do. Not everything, of course.
Back on subject, I too, hate what ITV were doing. What a waste of time. They started at 9pm and started showing highlights from earlier in the day. Fine, I thought. But after an hour, I realised, we'd never see any live stuff happening in the background. What a flippin mistake. Why couldn't they be smart and show some highlights and then switch live to the stage for the big stuff?? BBC3's coverage of Glastonbury does this and it works nicely. Oh well, I look forward to a programme showing the concert or a download.
Heh...and ITV wonder why they're not known for quality output!
Adam.
Back on subject, I too, hate what ITV were doing. What a waste of time. They started at 9pm and started showing highlights from earlier in the day. Fine, I thought. But after an hour, I realised, we'd never see any live stuff happening in the background. What a flippin mistake. Why couldn't they be smart and show some highlights and then switch live to the stage for the big stuff?? BBC3's coverage of Glastonbury does this and it works nicely. Oh well, I look forward to a programme showing the concert or a download.
Heh...and ITV wonder why they're not known for quality output!
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Richard Orchard wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But - was the artists present the best representation of who would want to honor Nelson Mandela?
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
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I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!
As predictable as you are, I wasn't really expecting anything this transparent.
Awww poor wittle jaded Tero
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!
As predictable as you are, I wasn't really expecting anything this transparent.
Awww poor wittle jaded Tero
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Most of the artists there were those who have been involved in the 46664 cause all along[/QUOTE]
Why should you limit to those artists who have been involved from the start? None of the current artists have been involved in the cause since Nelson Mandela's imprisonment, so obviously there is room for new acts?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Also - if it was all about the new album then isnt it great that they played so much new material last night...... oh wait. :)[/QUOTE]
If they had played any of the material, the current ticket holders would have burned their tickets in anger. ;)
They played the old hits because they are selling the concert as if they are still the Queen of 1986. Simple as that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Say its not true was written FOR 46664 and Nelson Mandela, long before a new album was concieved.[/QUOTE]
That's hardly the point, is it?
How come none of the other 46664 songs are available as free downloads for sending birthday greetings? Honestly, I think it's Brian's reward for arranging the event... That and the other free advertising, of course.
Why should you limit to those artists who have been involved from the start? None of the current artists have been involved in the cause since Nelson Mandela's imprisonment, so obviously there is room for new acts?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Also - if it was all about the new album then isnt it great that they played so much new material last night...... oh wait. :)[/QUOTE]
If they had played any of the material, the current ticket holders would have burned their tickets in anger. ;)
They played the old hits because they are selling the concert as if they are still the Queen of 1986. Simple as that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Say its not true was written FOR 46664 and Nelson Mandela, long before a new album was concieved.[/QUOTE]
That's hardly the point, is it?
How come none of the other 46664 songs are available as free downloads for sending birthday greetings? Honestly, I think it's Brian's reward for arranging the event... That and the other free advertising, of course.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Richard Orchard wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But - was the artists present the best representation of who would want to honor Nelson Mandela?
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!
As predictable as you are, I wasn't really expecting anything this transparent.
Awww poor wittle jaded Tero[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, it's no more predictable than you writing glowing reviews of any mediocre QPR performance. ;)
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!
As predictable as you are, I wasn't really expecting anything this transparent.
Awww poor wittle jaded Tero[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, it's no more predictable than you writing glowing reviews of any mediocre QPR performance. ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Richard Orchard wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But - was the artists present the best representation of who would want to honor Nelson Mandela?
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!
As predictable as you are, I wasn't really expecting anything this transparent.
Awww poor wittle jaded Tero[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, it's no more predictable than you writing glowing reviews of any mediocre QPR performance. ;)[/QUOTE]
HAHA.
Like you would ever acknowledge a great QPR performance. How could you even claim this was mediocre when absolutely everything they do is mediocre to you?
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
LMAO!
As predictable as you are, I wasn't really expecting anything this transparent.
Awww poor wittle jaded Tero[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, it's no more predictable than you writing glowing reviews of any mediocre QPR performance. ;)[/QUOTE]
HAHA.
Like you would ever acknowledge a great QPR performance. How could you even claim this was mediocre when absolutely everything they do is mediocre to you?
After seeing last nights stunning show and reading some of the comments here I can safely say that it wont matter what the f*ck they do, it still wont please some people.
Its the same thing with Brian. He could give away his entire fortune to fight world hunger and some people would still find this a proof of "the wickedness of Mr May".
Its the same thing with Brian. He could give away his entire fortune to fight world hunger and some people would still find this a proof of "the wickedness of Mr May".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Like you would ever acknowledge a great QPR performance. How could you even claim this was mediocre when absolutely everything they do is mediocre to you?
[/QUOTE]
Have they ever had a great performance? :P
Seriously though, I have NEVER critisised QPR's work on Paul's songs. I critisise QPR's work on the Queen songs because no-one in the "band" is willing to change their own style to make the combination sound more like a genuine new band.
If you don't believe me, read my notes from this topic
http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1113459&page=3
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Have they ever had a great performance? :P
Seriously though, I have NEVER critisised QPR's work on Paul's songs. I critisise QPR's work on the Queen songs because no-one in the "band" is willing to change their own style to make the combination sound more like a genuine new band.
If you don't believe me, read my notes from this topic
http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1113459&page=3
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Richard Orchard wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But - was the artists present the best representation of who would want to honor Nelson Mandela?
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
So you dont think that the 90th birthday of the worlds most admired political leader of our time is enough reason for celebration?
If your "theory" is correct then hats off to Brian who managed to fool a surprising gathering of artists and other people to appear in his "commercial" including Bono, The Edge, Joan Baez, Annie Lennox and even Nelson Mandela. Theyre just the kind of people wholl do anything for money!
Given the universal appeal of Mandela, i am surprised more bit A list people weren't there.
[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound overtly negative or cynical, but is that really a surprise?
Brian May organises an internationally televised charity concert just a few months before his own band launches a European tour (with new material which is weak, to say the least based on the songs so far), and you expect him to gather around the biggest stars in the world? :D
This was an advertisement campaign for QPR, designed to highlight their own mediocre performance when compared to the crap around them... All the reports are going to say they stole the show, and all the highlight programmes are going to show their performance, and that wouldn't have been possible if there had really been an "stellar lineup" to compete with.[/QUOTE]
So you dont think that the 90th birthday of the worlds most admired political leader of our time is enough reason for celebration?
If your "theory" is correct then hats off to Brian who managed to fool a surprising gathering of artists and other people to appear in his "commercial" including Bono, The Edge, Joan Baez, Annie Lennox and even Nelson Mandela. Theyre just the kind of people wholl do anything for money!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So you dont think that the 90th birthday of the worlds most admired political leader of our time is enough reason for celebration?
If your "theory" is correct then hats off to Brian who managed to fool a surprising gathering of artists and other people to appear in his "commercial" including Bono, The Edge, Joan Baez, Annie Lennox and even Nelson Mandela. Theyre just the kind of people wholl do anything for money![/QUOTE]
The party idea may have been a sincere one, but I doubt the obviously half-hearted attempt at reaching artists of any international stature was genuine.
This was a three(?) hour event, and you list a whopping two musicians who took the time to come the event, and one video entry... I bet Brian spent months on that.
If your "theory" is correct then hats off to Brian who managed to fool a surprising gathering of artists and other people to appear in his "commercial" including Bono, The Edge, Joan Baez, Annie Lennox and even Nelson Mandela. Theyre just the kind of people wholl do anything for money![/QUOTE]
The party idea may have been a sincere one, but I doubt the obviously half-hearted attempt at reaching artists of any international stature was genuine.
This was a three(?) hour event, and you list a whopping two musicians who took the time to come the event, and one video entry... I bet Brian spent months on that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Like you would ever acknowledge a great QPR performance. How could you even claim this was mediocre when absolutely everything they do is mediocre to you?
[/QUOTE]
Have they ever had a great performance? :P
Seriously though, I have NEVER critisised QPR's work on Paul's songs. I critisise QPR's work on the Queen songs because no-one in the "band" is willing to change their own style to make the combination sound more like a genuine new band.
If you don't believe me, read my notes from this topic
http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1113459&page=3
[/QUOTE]
I'll give you credit for at least giving the stuff a listen and a critique.
At least you are not like the trolls who call for Paul to be shot.
But to suggest that this whole thing was a calculated plan from Brian and Roger of promoting the album and tour is is excessively cynical and jaded.
I do think they are proud of the QPR project and are eager to show the world, but that's an understandable attitude. It's like a world class athlete in the locker room before he heads out onto the field. He's in there shouting, jogging in place and pumping his fists getting himself psyched out and he's full of confidence.
Why didn't they announce a new album coming out?
[/QUOTE]
Have they ever had a great performance? :P
Seriously though, I have NEVER critisised QPR's work on Paul's songs. I critisise QPR's work on the Queen songs because no-one in the "band" is willing to change their own style to make the combination sound more like a genuine new band.
If you don't believe me, read my notes from this topic
http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1113459&page=3
[/QUOTE]
I'll give you credit for at least giving the stuff a listen and a critique.
At least you are not like the trolls who call for Paul to be shot.
But to suggest that this whole thing was a calculated plan from Brian and Roger of promoting the album and tour is is excessively cynical and jaded.
I do think they are proud of the QPR project and are eager to show the world, but that's an understandable attitude. It's like a world class athlete in the locker room before he heads out onto the field. He's in there shouting, jogging in place and pumping his fists getting himself psyched out and he's full of confidence.
Why didn't they announce a new album coming out?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So you dont think that the 90th birthday of the worlds most admired political leader of our time is enough reason for celebration?
If your "theory" is correct then hats off to Brian who managed to fool a surprising gathering of artists and other people to appear in his "commercial" including Bono, The Edge, Joan Baez, Annie Lennox and even Nelson Mandela. Theyre just the kind of people wholl do anything for money![/QUOTE]
The party idea may have been a sincere one, but I doubt the obviously half-hearted attempt at reaching artists of any international stature was genuine.
This was a three(?) hour event, and you list a whopping two musicians who took the time to come the event, and one video entry... I bet Brian spent months on that.[/QUOTE]
The artists who appeared were essentially those who are involved in the 46664-project what else did you expect. I thought the idea was great with something of a meeting between African and European music. And honestly I thought a lot of the african artists were great.
Secondly you missed the point of what I wrote completely.
That said they had obviously saved some by using a house band or having artists perform acoustically. It would have been a LOT more expensive to have multiple stadium-headlining artists come in and perform a´la Live Aid and I seriously think that the 46664-foundation have a lot of better ways to spend their money than that. I thought the evening worked fine with the exception of Simple Minds and Josh Groban who were boring. And it was obvius that people who were there enjoyed themselves.
If your "theory" is correct then hats off to Brian who managed to fool a surprising gathering of artists and other people to appear in his "commercial" including Bono, The Edge, Joan Baez, Annie Lennox and even Nelson Mandela. Theyre just the kind of people wholl do anything for money![/QUOTE]
The party idea may have been a sincere one, but I doubt the obviously half-hearted attempt at reaching artists of any international stature was genuine.
This was a three(?) hour event, and you list a whopping two musicians who took the time to come the event, and one video entry... I bet Brian spent months on that.[/QUOTE]
The artists who appeared were essentially those who are involved in the 46664-project what else did you expect. I thought the idea was great with something of a meeting between African and European music. And honestly I thought a lot of the african artists were great.
Secondly you missed the point of what I wrote completely.
That said they had obviously saved some by using a house band or having artists perform acoustically. It would have been a LOT more expensive to have multiple stadium-headlining artists come in and perform a´la Live Aid and I seriously think that the 46664-foundation have a lot of better ways to spend their money than that. I thought the evening worked fine with the exception of Simple Minds and Josh Groban who were boring. And it was obvius that people who were there enjoyed themselves.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But to suggest that this whole thing was a calculated plan from Brian and Roger of promoting the album and tour is is excessively cynical and jaded.
Why didn't they announce a new album coming out?[/QUOTE]
The WHOLE thing wasn't a calculated plan, but it certainly was a lucky coincidence for the band. I'm quite certain Brian would have been able to secure a more "commercially appealing" line-up if he'd genuinely tried, but that didn't happen.
A big part of that must also be his ego, because it also doesn't allow him to play to smaller audiences as a solo artist. ;)
There's no point in advertising the new album because
a) very few people are going to buy the new album anyway, and
b) Brian gets his kicks (and money) from touring and selling the old albums, and the best way to do both of those is to play the biggest hits live, as close to the original versions as possible... Like happened yesterday.
If I may ask YOU something, would you give an honest opinion?
Are the Queen songs (as heard yesterday) the best possible versions these people can come up with, or would they benefit from new (less like Queen '86) arrangements?
Why didn't they announce a new album coming out?[/QUOTE]
The WHOLE thing wasn't a calculated plan, but it certainly was a lucky coincidence for the band. I'm quite certain Brian would have been able to secure a more "commercially appealing" line-up if he'd genuinely tried, but that didn't happen.
A big part of that must also be his ego, because it also doesn't allow him to play to smaller audiences as a solo artist. ;)
There's no point in advertising the new album because
a) very few people are going to buy the new album anyway, and
b) Brian gets his kicks (and money) from touring and selling the old albums, and the best way to do both of those is to play the biggest hits live, as close to the original versions as possible... Like happened yesterday.
If I may ask YOU something, would you give an honest opinion?
Are the Queen songs (as heard yesterday) the best possible versions these people can come up with, or would they benefit from new (less like Queen '86) arrangements?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
There's no point in advertising the new album because
a) very few people are going to buy the new album anyway, and
b) Brian gets his kicks (and money) from touring and selling the old albums, and the best way to do both of those is to play the biggest hits live, as close to the original versions as possible... Like happened yesterday.
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Are you serious? Do you really think Brian sat in the boarding room at QPR and agreed with executives that "No-ones gonna buy the new album anyway so we wont play any of the songs". And why did they even make an album in that case, cause you thats not cheap on this level.. ;)
Only the hits? What did you expect at from a 30-minute set at a shared bill like this. Did you think that Queen would play Funny how love is in a jazz-fusion-version at Live Aid as well? ;)
Are you here because you love the music of Queen or because you want to express your hate for somebody? So you dont like QPR, its youre right not to but why never anything positive about anything else? In the end were all here because we love Queen. :)
Any way.. All the best! :)
There's no point in advertising the new album because
a) very few people are going to buy the new album anyway, and
b) Brian gets his kicks (and money) from touring and selling the old albums, and the best way to do both of those is to play the biggest hits live, as close to the original versions as possible... Like happened yesterday.
[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? Do you really think Brian sat in the boarding room at QPR and agreed with executives that "No-ones gonna buy the new album anyway so we wont play any of the songs". And why did they even make an album in that case, cause you thats not cheap on this level.. ;)
Only the hits? What did you expect at from a 30-minute set at a shared bill like this. Did you think that Queen would play Funny how love is in a jazz-fusion-version at Live Aid as well? ;)
Are you here because you love the music of Queen or because you want to express your hate for somebody? So you dont like QPR, its youre right not to but why never anything positive about anything else? In the end were all here because we love Queen. :)
Any way.. All the best! :)