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[QUOTE] [b]Treasure Moment wrote:[/b]
Thats because he isnt an indian, he is iranian. he even says it himself in an interview that he is persian=iranian.
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Thats because he isnt an indian, he is iranian. he even says it himself in an interview that he is persian=iranian.
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[QUOTE] [b]Treasure Moment wrote:[/b]
Thats because he isnt an indian, he is iranian. he even says it himself in an interview that he is persian=iranian.
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So, that's yet another age-old topic you revive, just to show how incredibly ignorant you are. Parsi =/= Persian, Persian =/= Iranian.
Did you know that many people in Afghanistan, North-West India, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Azerbaijan are Persians? And that almost half of all Iranians aren't Persians? I don't think you did, but not knowing anything about a subject has never stopped you before.
[QUOTE] [b]Treasure Moment wrote:[/b]
Thats because he isnt an indian, he is iranian. he even says it himself in an interview that he is persian=iranian.
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So, that's yet another age-old topic you revive, just to show how incredibly ignorant you are. Parsi =/= Persian, Persian =/= Iranian.
Did you know that many people in Afghanistan, North-West India, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Azerbaijan are Persians? And that almost half of all Iranians aren't Persians? I don't think you did, but not knowing anything about a subject has never stopped you before.
Why dig up an old thread like this?
As to the question, I don't think kids think about race and ethnicity to the same degree - they just see a person and that's that (unless adults around have made them think about such things), but I read biographies of Queen as a child as soon as I discovered them in the late '90's so after Freddie's death, so I knew about his heritage.
I have an Uncle who is Syrian and must say he shares similar features to Freddie. Obviously Freddie isn't Syrian and my Uncle is only one person, just as Freddie is only one person. But you can very easily google the history of Parsis to understand more about Freddie's heritage, which isn't racially Indian and I would argue is closer to Syrian than Indian.
I attach a map of the Persian Empire. (Living in a county for hundreds of years doesn't alter your racial or ethnic origins.)
In terms of Freddie, I wonder how he felt about his heritage. This is nothing specifically to do with Freddie, but I have a friend whose family is Sri Lankan, but she has never been there - she was born in the UK, her family moved to Hong Kong when she was around 3 or 4 and for all of her school years she lived in Hong Kong then she moved back to England at 17. But she went to an English school in Hong Kong and never learned a single word of Chinese in her life (I visited her parents in Hong Kong and my friend didn't even know what the name of the town she lived in her whole life meant.) Of course this was her personality, but she always hated museums and anything to do with history and I have always had the impression she never feels as though she really has any place she felt was culturally home. I mean, I say that, but who of us feel we culturally belong to anything these days?
Freddie spent such little time with his family in his childhood, that surely his cultural identification would have come from his experiences at school mainly. And I have to say that I personally don't know enough to know what those experiences entirely would have entailed.
I totally feel I have most likely confused certain terms in this post too, so my apologies if I have. And obviously I do not know a great deal about any of this, so apologies too for any errors in what I post.
As to the question, I don't think kids think about race and ethnicity to the same degree - they just see a person and that's that (unless adults around have made them think about such things), but I read biographies of Queen as a child as soon as I discovered them in the late '90's so after Freddie's death, so I knew about his heritage.
I have an Uncle who is Syrian and must say he shares similar features to Freddie. Obviously Freddie isn't Syrian and my Uncle is only one person, just as Freddie is only one person. But you can very easily google the history of Parsis to understand more about Freddie's heritage, which isn't racially Indian and I would argue is closer to Syrian than Indian.
I attach a map of the Persian Empire. (Living in a county for hundreds of years doesn't alter your racial or ethnic origins.)
In terms of Freddie, I wonder how he felt about his heritage. This is nothing specifically to do with Freddie, but I have a friend whose family is Sri Lankan, but she has never been there - she was born in the UK, her family moved to Hong Kong when she was around 3 or 4 and for all of her school years she lived in Hong Kong then she moved back to England at 17. But she went to an English school in Hong Kong and never learned a single word of Chinese in her life (I visited her parents in Hong Kong and my friend didn't even know what the name of the town she lived in her whole life meant.) Of course this was her personality, but she always hated museums and anything to do with history and I have always had the impression she never feels as though she really has any place she felt was culturally home. I mean, I say that, but who of us feel we culturally belong to anything these days?
Freddie spent such little time with his family in his childhood, that surely his cultural identification would have come from his experiences at school mainly. And I have to say that I personally don't know enough to know what those experiences entirely would have entailed.
I totally feel I have most likely confused certain terms in this post too, so my apologies if I have. And obviously I do not know a great deal about any of this, so apologies too for any errors in what I post.
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
So, that's yet another age-old topic you revive, just to show how incredibly ignorant you are. Parsi =/= Persian, Persian =/= Iranian.
Did you know that many people in Afghanistan, North-West India, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Azerbaijan are Persians? And that almost half of all Iranians aren't Persians? I don't think you did, but not knowing anything about a subject has never stopped you before.[/QUOTE]
Reviving old threads when you have something to tell or add on that subject is the way to go on a forum.
What not to do: make new threads that repeat the same subject as in other threads and spam and fragment the forum...
like you would do because you are dumb shemale twat
Furthermore you silly cow, "The Persians are an Iranian ethnic group that make up over half the population of Iran" Wikipedia.
Furthermore the debate or controversy is not if Freddie was iranian or persian, since is the same thing but
to point out that he wasn't indian.
Since hoards of indians invaded the internet and social media platforms there is this trend to make Freddie indian.
So, that's yet another age-old topic you revive, just to show how incredibly ignorant you are. Parsi =/= Persian, Persian =/= Iranian.
Did you know that many people in Afghanistan, North-West India, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Azerbaijan are Persians? And that almost half of all Iranians aren't Persians? I don't think you did, but not knowing anything about a subject has never stopped you before.[/QUOTE]
Reviving old threads when you have something to tell or add on that subject is the way to go on a forum.
What not to do: make new threads that repeat the same subject as in other threads and spam and fragment the forum...
like you would do because you are dumb shemale twat
Furthermore you silly cow, "The Persians are an Iranian ethnic group that make up over half the population of Iran" Wikipedia.
Furthermore the debate or controversy is not if Freddie was iranian or persian, since is the same thing but
to point out that he wasn't indian.
Since hoards of indians invaded the internet and social media platforms there is this trend to make Freddie indian.
To be honest I didn't give much thought to his background although I always thought he looked "exotic". In the 1970s there wasn't the social media and instant video and photo facilities available today so "live" interviews widely available to a mass audience were rare. Since seeing Bohemian Rhapsody my rather dormant Queen mania has been revived and I've watched numerous interviews etc. on You Tube where Freddie's "colonial" accent with Indian overtones are clearly detectable - one notable example when he pronounces nail varnish - as nail warnish - I've noticed a lot of Indian people pronounce Vs as Ws. Freddie was at school in Bombay (as it was then) from the age of 10 to around 16 or 17 so that would surely have influenced his speech.
Whatever his background and ethnicity he was a gorgeous, talented man - born at the wrong time sadly - just think how much more he could have achieved if he'd been born 20 years later - thankfully we now have things like You Tube where we can still enjoy his genius!
Whatever his background and ethnicity he was a gorgeous, talented man - born at the wrong time sadly - just think how much more he could have achieved if he'd been born 20 years later - thankfully we now have things like You Tube where we can still enjoy his genius!
Yeah, I remember him sounding like that in such songs as "One Wision", "Princes Of The Uniwerse" and "Made In Hewwen" ;)
Any chance of a link to the nail warnish thing? He's likely just mispronounced it.
Any chance of a link to the nail warnish thing? He's likely just mispronounced it.
Ha ha - take your point - but his speaking voice was significantly different than when he was singing. Can't remember which interview it was - possible one with Mary Turner? - but I remember playing it back several times to make sure I was hearing it right.
I'll see if I can find it :)
I don't think I ever gave it much thought. It doesn't make much odds to me.
It's kinda difficult to say but I personal don't.
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I never suspected he wasn't white, I always knew he was Indian. It was never actually hidden that his name was Farokh Bulsara, and that his parents were diplomats from Bombay. That much is in all the books on Queen that have been available since books on Queen started being published.
you knew wrong
As far as his Indian accent:
Spread Your Wings.
Album version/ Live Killers version/: "You won't get Wery Far"
BBC version: utters a strange "V"
NOTW Box Set Alternative take: definitely a "V"
Let Me In Your Heart Again
"open the doors for me babe", I can hear a very thick Indian accent in there
No matter the accent or the colour of his skin...Hats off.
Spread Your Wings.
Album version/ Live Killers version/: "You won't get Wery Far"
BBC version: utters a strange "V"
NOTW Box Set Alternative take: definitely a "V"
Let Me In Your Heart Again
"open the doors for me babe", I can hear a very thick Indian accent in there
No matter the accent or the colour of his skin...Hats off.
Although it doesn't help the conversation any - i grew up thinking Tony Iommi was a Mexican dude. He looked just like "some guy in a paisa group " (BANDA MUSIC)