Don't worry una, the service economy of the Repubic of Ireland (and increasingly the UK too) is ideally suited for under-educated drones. There'll always be a job waiting for you at McDonalds or selling tat to tourists.
Alternatively Una, some of your fellow countrymen keep Saint oliver Plunkett's head in a glass case. A bottle would be slightly more tacky, but who am I to pass judgement? (ahem) Maybe you're waiting for him to awake and tell you about the secrets of the universe? Personally, until that happens, I'd rather listen to the guy with the PhD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Plunkett
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To summarize the more intelligent statements (i.e. everything except the posts by Una999):
Knowledge is not a means, it is an end.
Knowledge is not a means, it is an end.
First to Holly2003...i knew immediately before checking that you are from Northern Ireland. And yes I wasn't surprised when you say you're part of the UK (which is true). But it's sad because Northern Ireland is not wanted in the UK it contributes nothing to the UK economy, it costs money to support it. Is Northern Ireland not enough, why add the UK to it, like you don't have people from Scotland saying UK, never understand that. And at least our countrymen created a successful country we didn't rely on the UK
Now to everyone else that replied...i can't respond because it is so annoying. All i am going to say is this.
Alan Sugar said that kids should be learning how to get business skills in school rather than learning pointless stuff. He said everyone doesn't have to be successful, all you need is 25%, because the other 75% will be the clowns who do the work. To succeed in business you don't need a business degree. Now that's my point...i'm just picking business because there are so many pathetic courses out there...basically horses for courses. Most wealthy people don't have a formal education, but as i said above college is needed for medicine, engineering,
Now to everyone else that replied...i can't respond because it is so annoying. All i am going to say is this.
Alan Sugar said that kids should be learning how to get business skills in school rather than learning pointless stuff. He said everyone doesn't have to be successful, all you need is 25%, because the other 75% will be the clowns who do the work. To succeed in business you don't need a business degree. Now that's my point...i'm just picking business because there are so many pathetic courses out there...basically horses for courses. Most wealthy people don't have a formal education, but as i said above college is needed for medicine, engineering,
Yes, you distinguish between those "worthy" and "unworthy" of education. A social upper layer, which you graciously extend to 25% of the population, and a subservient 75%. So, I will stand by my nazi-allegations.
Well Thomas not my words, Alan Sugar - called an analogy, figures aren't scientific, used purely for demonstration...ok not empirical
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]una999 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]u see what difference is this PHD going to make to anyone's life? [/QUOTE]A whole world of difference to HIS life surely.
Some difference, hopefully, also to the life of some astronomer who might use the data and conclusions in it to get a better understanding of something somewhere in the Universe.
Some difference, hopefully, also to the life of some astronomer who might use the data and conclusions in it to get a better understanding of something somewhere in the Universe.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gnomo wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]una999 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]u see what difference is this PHD going to make to anyone's life? [/QUOTE]A whole world of difference to HIS life surely.
Some difference, hopefully, also to the life of some astronomer who might use the data and conclusions in it to get a better understanding of something somewhere in the Universe.[/QUOTE]
But if it could wait 30 years...how relevant is it?
Some difference, hopefully, also to the life of some astronomer who might use the data and conclusions in it to get a better understanding of something somewhere in the Universe.[/QUOTE]
But if it could wait 30 years...how relevant is it?
Your reasoning certainly has a lot in common with nazism as TQ said. This is a fact and if you do not agree maybe you should have paid more attention during your history lessons, but hey thats probably one of your "useless" subjects..
"I wont answer because it is so annoying..." thats certainly an interesting way to debate..
"I wont answer because it is so annoying..." thats certainly an interesting way to debate..
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]una999 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]First to Holly2003...i knew immediately before checking that you are from Northern Ireland. And yes I wasn't surprised when you say you're part of the UK (which is true). But it's sad because Northern Ireland is not wanted in the UK it contributes nothing to the UK economy, it costs money to support it. Is Northern Ireland not enough, why add the UK to it, like you don't have people from Scotland saying UK, never understand that. And at least our countrymen created a successful country we didn't rely on the UK [/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing. Almost every region in the UK depends financially on London and SE England. I add UK to "it" because it's both true and perfectly natural for me to do so. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern ireland. Surely even someone as anti-education as you might've picked up on that after 87 years of that being a cast-iron fact. Lastly "Your countrymen" relied heavily on EU subsidies to make the Republic of Ireland into a "Celtic Tiger", which is highly ironic since you appear not to endorse subsidies for Northern Ireland. If there's snything else you'd like to know about Northern Ireland, UK, please consult Plunkett's severed head first: if no reply, I'll be glad to help.
Thanks for sharing. Almost every region in the UK depends financially on London and SE England. I add UK to "it" because it's both true and perfectly natural for me to do so. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern ireland. Surely even someone as anti-education as you might've picked up on that after 87 years of that being a cast-iron fact. Lastly "Your countrymen" relied heavily on EU subsidies to make the Republic of Ireland into a "Celtic Tiger", which is highly ironic since you appear not to endorse subsidies for Northern Ireland. If there's snything else you'd like to know about Northern Ireland, UK, please consult Plunkett's severed head first: if no reply, I'll be glad to help.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]una999 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]First to Holly2003...i knew immediately before checking that you are from Northern Ireland. And yes I wasn't surprised when you say you're part of the UK (which is true). But it's sad because Northern Ireland is not wanted in the UK it contributes nothing to the UK economy, it costs money to support it. Is Northern Ireland not enough, why add the UK to it, like you don't have people from Scotland saying UK, never understand that. And at least our countrymen created a successful country we didn't rely on the UK [/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing. Almost every region in the UK depends financially on London and SE England. I add UK to "it" because it's both true and perfectly natural for me to do so. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern ireland. Surely even someone as anti-education as you might've picked up on that after 87 years of that being a cast-iron fact. Lastly "Your countrymen" relied heavily on EU subsidies to make the Republic of Ireland into a "Celtic Tiger", which is highly ironic since you appear not to endorse subsidies for Northern Ireland. If there's snything else you'd like to know about Northern Ireland, UK, please consult Plunkett's severed head first: if no reply, I'll be glad to help.[/QUOTE]
Ha ha i find this funny!! I'm at odds that you keep pointing out that NI is in the UK...i've already stated that point in my previous post.
I don't have a problem with that because the republic doesn't want the North either. Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein are completely out of touch with people in the Republic...I guess you are Unionist.
Oh please...that is so lame. If British imperialism didn't get in the way we'd have been years ahead. Just like China has suffered years at the hands of Japanese Imperialism, it hinders growth. Yes we got money from the EU but finally we have turned things around and are now contributing more than we are getting. NI is stuck in the past...want to be part of the UK but you know they (the majority i.e england) don't give a dam!! And at least we created a Tiger economy...what has NI created?
And finally I don't know who this Plunkett guy you keep referring to is (doesn't mean not educated, just learnt more relevant stuff in school)...but i checked him up in Wikipedia (not the most reliable source but still) and what does it say...'He maintained his duties in Ireland in the face of English persecution and was eventually arrested and tried for treason'. So if you support presecution that's your business but human rights exist these days.
Just like America, the Irish broke free from British rule...guess in our blood, pride, priceless.
Thanks for sharing. Almost every region in the UK depends financially on London and SE England. I add UK to "it" because it's both true and perfectly natural for me to do so. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern ireland. Surely even someone as anti-education as you might've picked up on that after 87 years of that being a cast-iron fact. Lastly "Your countrymen" relied heavily on EU subsidies to make the Republic of Ireland into a "Celtic Tiger", which is highly ironic since you appear not to endorse subsidies for Northern Ireland. If there's snything else you'd like to know about Northern Ireland, UK, please consult Plunkett's severed head first: if no reply, I'll be glad to help.[/QUOTE]
Ha ha i find this funny!! I'm at odds that you keep pointing out that NI is in the UK...i've already stated that point in my previous post.
I don't have a problem with that because the republic doesn't want the North either. Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein are completely out of touch with people in the Republic...I guess you are Unionist.
Oh please...that is so lame. If British imperialism didn't get in the way we'd have been years ahead. Just like China has suffered years at the hands of Japanese Imperialism, it hinders growth. Yes we got money from the EU but finally we have turned things around and are now contributing more than we are getting. NI is stuck in the past...want to be part of the UK but you know they (the majority i.e england) don't give a dam!! And at least we created a Tiger economy...what has NI created?
And finally I don't know who this Plunkett guy you keep referring to is (doesn't mean not educated, just learnt more relevant stuff in school)...but i checked him up in Wikipedia (not the most reliable source but still) and what does it say...'He maintained his duties in Ireland in the face of English persecution and was eventually arrested and tried for treason'. So if you support presecution that's your business but human rights exist these days.
Just like America, the Irish broke free from British rule...guess in our blood, pride, priceless.
Help! I'm being oppressed!
Remember now Una (Father Ted talking to Dougal) Northern Ireland part of the UK, Republic of Ireland no longer part of UK but keeps priest's head in a bottle.
Remember now Una (Father Ted talking to Dougal) Northern Ireland part of the UK, Republic of Ireland no longer part of UK but keeps priest's head in a bottle.
I think the gist of this topic is, Una couldn't get a degree.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]una999 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]But if it could wait 30 years...how relevant is it?[/QUOTE]Zodiacal dust has been somewhat overlooked for decades, while research on the Solar System concentrated on planetary exploration through fly-by or surface probes.
BUT, since the search for extra-solar planetary system has progressed, thanks to better instruments, zodiacal dust has become of interest again, because dust clouds are considered the environment in which planets form and develop, so where plenty of dust is, it's likely that planets can be found.
Which means that a better knowledge of the structure and dynamics of those dust clouds has NOW become interesting for astronomers again - this time, not those researching "our" planetary system, but those looking for other planetary systems "out there".
EDIT: it happens so very often in science, that research done on what is, at the time, a minor, marginally relevant subject in a certain field will prove, later on, of critical importance to key research in a totally different field.
That's why science and advancement of knowledge ARE valuable in themselves: what looks insignificant today outside a restricted circle might turn out to be very important for everyone at a later time.
HTH
BUT, since the search for extra-solar planetary system has progressed, thanks to better instruments, zodiacal dust has become of interest again, because dust clouds are considered the environment in which planets form and develop, so where plenty of dust is, it's likely that planets can be found.
Which means that a better knowledge of the structure and dynamics of those dust clouds has NOW become interesting for astronomers again - this time, not those researching "our" planetary system, but those looking for other planetary systems "out there".
EDIT: it happens so very often in science, that research done on what is, at the time, a minor, marginally relevant subject in a certain field will prove, later on, of critical importance to key research in a totally different field.
That's why science and advancement of knowledge ARE valuable in themselves: what looks insignificant today outside a restricted circle might turn out to be very important for everyone at a later time.
HTH