They could just release the best DVD they could do right now-and should they ever find the multi-track tapes i'm sure they would have no problem releasing a new remasterd version.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
At least there are five different versions of the QPR album coming out for you to buy... Nice Touch![/QUOTE]
Well I wasn't sure about this but now I am; somebody must have delivered one too many nice touches to the back of your head.
At least there are five different versions of the QPR album coming out for you to buy... Nice Touch![/QUOTE]
Well I wasn't sure about this but now I am; somebody must have delivered one too many nice touches to the back of your head.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]on my way up wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If the Lizzy sound engineers are capable of doing this, the Queen people should be able to do it too.
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Oh, there's no 'if' about it. They are capable. There's just something in the water at Queen Productions that has them all convinced that they must not (under any circumstances) do a good job.
If the Lizzy sound engineers are capable of doing this, the Queen people should be able to do it too.
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Oh, there's no 'if' about it. They are capable. There's just something in the water at Queen Productions that has them all convinced that they must not (under any circumstances) do a good job.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes but I think Queen aims for a higher standard since they aim to sell to the general recordbuyer and not only to fans.
I fully agree with you that a audio-only 70s show is a very good release. I can understand however that it is not a top-priority for them.
TBH they did release a fair amount of bootleg recordings as a download for a bargain-prize only a couple of years ago.
Yes, I agree aswell. However it is also about the quality of the product. Wembley was a special happening so I can understand why it was released even if I like you think that Budapest is much better.
I dont Queen neither cares nor need any more respect. I still agree with you though that a HTWWW-type of product would certainly be interesting. It depends on how much great material there is and like I said Im not sure there is that much. There is absolutely no guarantees that they recorded shows for own personal use until the Live Killers era. What exists is probably only radio and TV-broadcasts and basic recordings with simple technology, all of which is probably considered lacking in quality compared with most official releases today.[/QUOTE]It's not a matter of possibilty, it's a matter of will. If QP want, they can make the most stunning BBC set ever. If QP want, they can make a stunning Led Zeppelin style DVD(usable bits from Earls court, houston, LIve Killers era and stuff like what exists from knebworth and other bits and pieces). And I'm really confident they can make a set with a few shows on audio only. Hendrix was a decade earlier than Queen and look what exists of him!!And the quality is not like Queen rock montreal but people(many people!!!)buy it.
I am a huge fan of the live band Queen and now I can only point other people to releases that are not entirely perfect(we're lucky we got thebowl and rock montreal). All releases have their amazing moments but something like Hammy could be truly IT!
Now many music fans see Wembley as THE Queen show. They release something and then try to sell it as the very best Queen show while in reality there are better shows, even from that tour!(in case of Wembley I prefer bot Budapest and Knebworth)
If I compare Wembley to Deep Purple's Made in japan or the Zeppelin set or Live at Leeds, I'd say these bands are better while in reality they just made a better choice of release(Page went through the archive for the best material possible, why doesn't QP do that?
I fully agree with you that a audio-only 70s show is a very good release. I can understand however that it is not a top-priority for them.
TBH they did release a fair amount of bootleg recordings as a download for a bargain-prize only a couple of years ago.
Yes, I agree aswell. However it is also about the quality of the product. Wembley was a special happening so I can understand why it was released even if I like you think that Budapest is much better.
I dont Queen neither cares nor need any more respect. I still agree with you though that a HTWWW-type of product would certainly be interesting. It depends on how much great material there is and like I said Im not sure there is that much. There is absolutely no guarantees that they recorded shows for own personal use until the Live Killers era. What exists is probably only radio and TV-broadcasts and basic recordings with simple technology, all of which is probably considered lacking in quality compared with most official releases today.[/QUOTE]It's not a matter of possibilty, it's a matter of will. If QP want, they can make the most stunning BBC set ever. If QP want, they can make a stunning Led Zeppelin style DVD(usable bits from Earls court, houston, LIve Killers era and stuff like what exists from knebworth and other bits and pieces). And I'm really confident they can make a set with a few shows on audio only. Hendrix was a decade earlier than Queen and look what exists of him!!And the quality is not like Queen rock montreal but people(many people!!!)buy it.
I am a huge fan of the live band Queen and now I can only point other people to releases that are not entirely perfect(we're lucky we got thebowl and rock montreal). All releases have their amazing moments but something like Hammy could be truly IT!
Now many music fans see Wembley as THE Queen show. They release something and then try to sell it as the very best Queen show while in reality there are better shows, even from that tour!(in case of Wembley I prefer bot Budapest and Knebworth)
If I compare Wembley to Deep Purple's Made in japan or the Zeppelin set or Live at Leeds, I'd say these bands are better while in reality they just made a better choice of release(Page went through the archive for the best material possible, why doesn't QP do that?
Yes, I agree with you for the most part. Except for the Who and Purple, that kind of power couldnt even Queen muster.;)
But as I said Im not sure there is that much to be released. OFATB was really a somewhat sensational release in that it was a filmed show with all tapes in existence just waiting to be mixed. How many of these do you think there is?
When it comes to other releases, and especially older, they are bound to have to make do less-quality sources like TV-broadcasts etc. that are nearly always lacking in master-tapes and hence need a lot more work to be considered top-quality. I can understand that they first and foremost release such shows that they have good material and mastertapes from.
But just because there is a lot from other artists doesnt mean that there is an equal amount from Queen. Hendrix walked around with a guitar 24h a day and spent whole weeks in studios jamming with friends. He also had a manager who out of greed saved everything he could get his hands on. And TBH if youre basing this assumption on what has been stated by Experience Hendrix Ltd. you shoulnd take it to literally, they havent exactly been known to be trustworthy and it has been countered by his old friends, incl his girlfriend at the time of his death who says that she personally threw away the tapes he had at home after his death.
And you should also remember that what exists and what has been released is far from always top-notch commercial releases rather the bigger have nearly always been rereleases of older videos often far from perfect performance-wise.
And Jimi Hendrix releases are definitely a good example of material aiming for hard-core fans rather than the general record-buying public.
But as I said Im not sure there is that much to be released. OFATB was really a somewhat sensational release in that it was a filmed show with all tapes in existence just waiting to be mixed. How many of these do you think there is?
When it comes to other releases, and especially older, they are bound to have to make do less-quality sources like TV-broadcasts etc. that are nearly always lacking in master-tapes and hence need a lot more work to be considered top-quality. I can understand that they first and foremost release such shows that they have good material and mastertapes from.
But just because there is a lot from other artists doesnt mean that there is an equal amount from Queen. Hendrix walked around with a guitar 24h a day and spent whole weeks in studios jamming with friends. He also had a manager who out of greed saved everything he could get his hands on. And TBH if youre basing this assumption on what has been stated by Experience Hendrix Ltd. you shoulnd take it to literally, they havent exactly been known to be trustworthy and it has been countered by his old friends, incl his girlfriend at the time of his death who says that she personally threw away the tapes he had at home after his death.
And you should also remember that what exists and what has been released is far from always top-notch commercial releases rather the bigger have nearly always been rereleases of older videos often far from perfect performance-wise.
And Jimi Hendrix releases are definitely a good example of material aiming for hard-core fans rather than the general record-buying public.
i agree.
and this is never released before.
so we have something (new).
if they later find the multi tracks they can
release it on blue ray or a newer sound and picture carier.
this gig has hits too ...
bohemian rhapsody,somebody to love,don?t stop me now,we will rock you,we are the champions,save me (new),killer queen,tie your mother down and crazy little thing called love.
this and never released before it has potential
to sell a lot of copies.
greetings
and this is never released before.
so we have something (new).
if they later find the multi tracks they can
release it on blue ray or a newer sound and picture carier.
this gig has hits too ...
bohemian rhapsody,somebody to love,don?t stop me now,we will rock you,we are the champions,save me (new),killer queen,tie your mother down and crazy little thing called love.
this and never released before it has potential
to sell a lot of copies.
greetings
` still agree with you though that a HTWWW-type of product would certainly be interesting.`
We had that, it was called Rare Live, and it sucked.
We had that, it was called Rare Live, and it sucked.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]FriedChicken wrote: [/QUOTENAME]` still agree with you though that a HTWWW-type of product would certainly be interesting.`
We had that, it was called Rare Live, and it sucked. [/QUOTE]
It was badly put together, but that doesn't mean the concept is flawed.
We had that, it was called Rare Live, and it sucked. [/QUOTE]
It was badly put together, but that doesn't mean the concept is flawed.
Like I said, it depends on what material is available in the archives. Personally I am afraid not that much sadly..Hence the low quality of Rare Live. And for this kind of product to be succesful it has to be top-quality both sound- and pictuewise.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Like I said, it depends on what material is available in the archives. Personally I am afraid not that much sadly..Hence the low quality of Rare Live. And for this kind of product to be succesful it has to be top-quality both sound- and pictuewise.[/QUOTE]
We all fear there's a lot less available that we hope, but there's actually enough material already known to exists to make for some good dvd or audio releases. Plus Brian or Roger confirmed ages ago that many soundboard recordings exist (don't ask me for a source for that, I remember reading it somewhere but my days of keeping press cutiings etc are long since over). Besides, GReg brooks was deliberately vague and unhelpful when we had the "great exchange of information" a while back (as usual, a one-sided affair, with everthing interesting coming from fans and none from Greg/Queen). I think the low qualty of rare live is due to the continuing incompetence of the Torpedo twins -- proof if ever there was that an infinite number of monkeys given enough time will NOT produce the works of Shakepeare. As for other quality issues, you don't throw out your old wedding video because it's not DVD-quality. People accept that older stuff will not be the same as a concert recorded today. The value of it is not in the picture quality but in the historical and performance-related aspects.
We all fear there's a lot less available that we hope, but there's actually enough material already known to exists to make for some good dvd or audio releases. Plus Brian or Roger confirmed ages ago that many soundboard recordings exist (don't ask me for a source for that, I remember reading it somewhere but my days of keeping press cutiings etc are long since over). Besides, GReg brooks was deliberately vague and unhelpful when we had the "great exchange of information" a while back (as usual, a one-sided affair, with everthing interesting coming from fans and none from Greg/Queen). I think the low qualty of rare live is due to the continuing incompetence of the Torpedo twins -- proof if ever there was that an infinite number of monkeys given enough time will NOT produce the works of Shakepeare. As for other quality issues, you don't throw out your old wedding video because it's not DVD-quality. People accept that older stuff will not be the same as a concert recorded today. The value of it is not in the picture quality but in the historical and performance-related aspects.
First of all QPL do want to release a concert from the 70's.
I dont know if this is common knowledge but Hammy'79 was in line to be released on DVD after LAWS but the project was shelved after the issue with the multi-tracks. It was not shelved because the multi-tracks dont exist, its because they simply cant find them.
Then Hammy'75 was to get a release. No multi-tracks again but this time its because they dont exist and never have done. The 1/4inch stereo tape was worked on. Even Greg confirmed that Richard Grey had done the DVD cover. Why was it shelved? Honestly dont know.
Then we got OFATB.
All Im trying to say is that although it would be nice to have the multi's it is not a requirement. If Hammy'79 never had a multi-track it may well have gone ahead using what's available, but because the multi did exist at some point, they dont want to release it to find they show up next week.
I dont know if this is common knowledge but Hammy'79 was in line to be released on DVD after LAWS but the project was shelved after the issue with the multi-tracks. It was not shelved because the multi-tracks dont exist, its because they simply cant find them.
Then Hammy'75 was to get a release. No multi-tracks again but this time its because they dont exist and never have done. The 1/4inch stereo tape was worked on. Even Greg confirmed that Richard Grey had done the DVD cover. Why was it shelved? Honestly dont know.
Then we got OFATB.
All Im trying to say is that although it would be nice to have the multi's it is not a requirement. If Hammy'79 never had a multi-track it may well have gone ahead using what's available, but because the multi did exist at some point, they dont want to release it to find they show up next week.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bad Seed wrote: [/QUOTENAME]First of all QPL do want to release a concert from the 70's.
I dont know if this is common knowledge but Hammy'79 was in line to be released on DVD after LAWS but the project was shelved after the issue with the multi-tracks. It was not shelved because the multi-tracks dont exist, its because they simply cant find them.
Then Hammy'75 was to get a release. No multi-tracks again but this time its because they dont exist and never have done. The 1/4inch stereo tape was worked on. Even Greg confirmed that Richard Grey had done the DVD cover. Why was it shelved? Honestly dont know.
Then we got OFATB.
All Im trying to say is that although it would be nice to have the multi's it is not a requirement. If Hammy'79 never had a multi-track it may well have gone ahead using what's available, but because the multi did exist at some point, they dont want to release it to find they show up next week.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info! That's what I thought. And in one of my posts above I have cited Greg who states that not all releases will be from multitrack, simply because they do not have a multitrack for all the recorded shows(your hammy'75 remark proves that)
I dont know if this is common knowledge but Hammy'79 was in line to be released on DVD after LAWS but the project was shelved after the issue with the multi-tracks. It was not shelved because the multi-tracks dont exist, its because they simply cant find them.
Then Hammy'75 was to get a release. No multi-tracks again but this time its because they dont exist and never have done. The 1/4inch stereo tape was worked on. Even Greg confirmed that Richard Grey had done the DVD cover. Why was it shelved? Honestly dont know.
Then we got OFATB.
All Im trying to say is that although it would be nice to have the multi's it is not a requirement. If Hammy'79 never had a multi-track it may well have gone ahead using what's available, but because the multi did exist at some point, they dont want to release it to find they show up next week.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info! That's what I thought. And in one of my posts above I have cited Greg who states that not all releases will be from multitrack, simply because they do not have a multitrack for all the recorded shows(your hammy'75 remark proves that)
10 reasons why it WON'T happen
1) Freddie has no moustache
2) No multi-tracks
3) No Radio Ga Ga in setlist
4) No I Want To Break Free in setlist
5) No Hammer To Fall in setlist
6) No Another one Bites The Dust
7) No Under Pressure
8) No Play The Game
9) No possible bonus material
10) and my favourite ... the bad bad uploaders, bootleggers, people who record concerts ...
BUT I agree with you, it SHOULD happen
1) Freddie has no moustache
2) No multi-tracks
3) No Radio Ga Ga in setlist
4) No I Want To Break Free in setlist
5) No Hammer To Fall in setlist
6) No Another one Bites The Dust
7) No Under Pressure
8) No Play The Game
9) No possible bonus material
10) and my favourite ... the bad bad uploaders, bootleggers, people who record concerts ...
BUT I agree with you, it SHOULD happen
If Hammy'79 never had a multi-track it may well have gone ahead using what's available, but because the multi did exist at some point, they dont want to release it to find they show up next week
Like QP wouldn't re-release it later with new improved audio! Come on you know they would and could.
Like QP wouldn't re-release it later with new improved audio! Come on you know they would and could.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]TheAmazingEvent wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If Hammy'79 never had a multi-track it may well have gone ahead using what's available, but because the multi did exist at some point, they dont want to release it to find they show up next week
Like QP wouldn't re-release it later with new improved audio! Come on you know they would and could.[/QUOTE]
Of course they could. How many times has the Montreal concert been released? Three?
Like QP wouldn't re-release it later with new improved audio! Come on you know they would and could.[/QUOTE]
Of course they could. How many times has the Montreal concert been released? Three?