Here is another interesting article I found...sorry for all the reading I'm doing. I'm off work for my bday today! :)
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm
Interesting to see that America's poor would be considered rich in 97% of the world's countries. I see this first hand when I do home visits on the children that attend my school. I can't tell you how many have no food yet they have Mac computers, big screen TVs, and X Box 360s. It is mind boggling.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Mir@cle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Is this your hidden B-day topic?? :P
Congratulations to the sexiest mom on this board!!! xD[/QUOTE]
I'll get the throne when I'll give you kids Tijn :P
Congratulations to the sexiest mom on this board!!! xD[/QUOTE]
I'll get the throne when I'll give you kids Tijn :P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Mir@cle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Congratulations to the sexiest mom on this board!!! xD[/QUOTE]
Hmmm.. interesting (giggety giggety)
Hmmm.. interesting (giggety giggety)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I see this first hand when I do home visits on the children that attend my school. I can't tell you how many have no food yet they have Mac computers, big screen TVs, and X Box 360s. It is mind boggling. [/QUOTE]
I'd get fired, cause I'd have to say something about it to the parents. When I see women at the grocery store using food stamps and WIC but talking on a $200 cell phone, it drives me crazy.
I'd get fired, cause I'd have to say something about it to the parents. When I see women at the grocery store using food stamps and WIC but talking on a $200 cell phone, it drives me crazy.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Erin wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I see this first hand when I do home visits on the children that attend my school. I can't tell you how many have no food yet they have Mac computers, big screen TVs, and X Box 360s. It is mind boggling. [/QUOTE]
I'd get fired, cause I'd have to say something about it to the parents. When I see women at the grocery store using food stamps and WIC but talking on a $200 cell phone, it drives me crazy.[/QUOTE]
Ugh! I see this all the time at my school! Kids who are on "Meal benefits plan" but wear shit like Abercrombie & Fitch and big expensive basketball shoes. They carry $500 cell phones like "The Voyager" in their back pockets.
But then again, you can find all that Hollister on the off-season discount rack at Marshall's, the shoes could be knockoffs and the phone could have been stolen and re-sold at a ghetto mall kiosk.
There's always a way for people nowadays. XD
I'd get fired, cause I'd have to say something about it to the parents. When I see women at the grocery store using food stamps and WIC but talking on a $200 cell phone, it drives me crazy.[/QUOTE]
Ugh! I see this all the time at my school! Kids who are on "Meal benefits plan" but wear shit like Abercrombie & Fitch and big expensive basketball shoes. They carry $500 cell phones like "The Voyager" in their back pockets.
But then again, you can find all that Hollister on the off-season discount rack at Marshall's, the shoes could be knockoffs and the phone could have been stolen and re-sold at a ghetto mall kiosk.
There's always a way for people nowadays. XD
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]***Marial-B*** wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Mir@cle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Is this your hidden B-day topic?? :P
Congratulations to the sexiest mom on this board!!! xD[/QUOTE]
I'll get the throne when I'll give you kids Tijn :P[/QUOTE]
You better be wearing rubbers, Tijn.
I don't want to see Mari on a talk show begging for Tijn to take a paternity test.
:-D
Congratulations to the sexiest mom on this board!!! xD[/QUOTE]
I'll get the throne when I'll give you kids Tijn :P[/QUOTE]
You better be wearing rubbers, Tijn.
I don't want to see Mari on a talk show begging for Tijn to take a paternity test.
:-D
Whats shitty is I have never been able to take advantage of that situation , I hate to use it as an example but every time I drive through the Heights I see really crappy houses with 50 grand cars and notice they use like $500 bucks in food stamps at the wal-mart at the end of the town, 3 shopping carts filled with great looking food, and of course after paying in food stamps they spend something like $200 on other shit, well fuck me, I'd love to be able to do that, I know they can work, but are too lazy, we should get rid of our welfare system.
Bread and circuses...an underhanded political tactic to retain the vote of the underprivileged while simultaneously repressing them.
I think it's especially troublesome because the victims actually believe they are being helped...and (at least I'd like to believe, but I can't be so certain) that the politicians actually believe they are helping them.
I think it's especially troublesome because the victims actually believe they are being helped...and (at least I'd like to believe, but I can't be so certain) that the politicians actually believe they are helping them.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bread and circuses...an underhanded political tactic to retain the vote of the underprivileged while simultaneously repressing them.
I think it's especially troublesome because the victims actually believe they are being helped...and (at least I'd like to believe, but I can't be so certain) that the politicians actually believe they are helping them.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, they are NOT helping them, they are enabling them to depend on others for what they get. It is a cycle, children that grow up on welfare may not even realize it is possible for them to go to school, get an education, get a good job and support themselves. Instead they've grown up seeing mommy or daddy waiting by the mailbox for the postman/woman to deliver a check they didn't work for or nowadays, waiting for the first of the month for your government debit card to be filled up again. The system is flawed, flawed, flawed beyond belief. Half of what I do in my work is try to teach parents budgeting skills and believe it or not, I'm teaching parents how to grocery shop with their food stamps so that the food they get will last them a month. I'm shocked at the crap, expensive food the parents buy. It costs twice as much and is four times as bad for the kids to eat. I guess I'll teach them to cook next.
I think it's especially troublesome because the victims actually believe they are being helped...and (at least I'd like to believe, but I can't be so certain) that the politicians actually believe they are helping them.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, they are NOT helping them, they are enabling them to depend on others for what they get. It is a cycle, children that grow up on welfare may not even realize it is possible for them to go to school, get an education, get a good job and support themselves. Instead they've grown up seeing mommy or daddy waiting by the mailbox for the postman/woman to deliver a check they didn't work for or nowadays, waiting for the first of the month for your government debit card to be filled up again. The system is flawed, flawed, flawed beyond belief. Half of what I do in my work is try to teach parents budgeting skills and believe it or not, I'm teaching parents how to grocery shop with their food stamps so that the food they get will last them a month. I'm shocked at the crap, expensive food the parents buy. It costs twice as much and is four times as bad for the kids to eat. I guess I'll teach them to cook next.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Half of what I do in my work is try to teach parents budgeting skills and believe it or not, I'm teaching parents how to grocery shop with their food stamps so that the food they get will last them a month. I'm shocked at the crap, expensive food the parents buy. It costs twice as much and is four times as bad for the kids to eat. I guess I'll teach them to cook next.
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Wow..I can't believe that is part of your job description. :-S Talk about a lack of common sense with those parents... Hats off to you for dealing with these families. I'm sure the kids need all the help they can get.
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Wow..I can't believe that is part of your job description. :-S Talk about a lack of common sense with those parents... Hats off to you for dealing with these families. I'm sure the kids need all the help they can get.
After you get rid of welfare, maybe the next step could be voluntary euthanasia for old people who can't look after themselves. After all, they're just a burden on the state too.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Lisser wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Here is another interesting article I found...sorry for all the reading I'm doing. I'm off work for my bday today! :)
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm
Interesting to see that America's poor would be considered rich in 97% of the world's countries. I see this first hand when I do home visits on the children that attend my school. I can't tell you how many have no food yet they have Mac computers, big screen TVs, and X Box 360s. It is mind boggling. [/QUOTE]
The whole of the Western world (because this is not just an American issue) has a completely perverted vision on necessities of life, it seems. What worries me most, though, is that I see people my age (so about 20) accumulate debts at a startling pace to buy luxury items, and don't consider that odd. In fact, people tend to find it weird that I *don't* have debts. How on earth are those people going to teach their children to act responsibly with money?
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm
Interesting to see that America's poor would be considered rich in 97% of the world's countries. I see this first hand when I do home visits on the children that attend my school. I can't tell you how many have no food yet they have Mac computers, big screen TVs, and X Box 360s. It is mind boggling. [/QUOTE]
The whole of the Western world (because this is not just an American issue) has a completely perverted vision on necessities of life, it seems. What worries me most, though, is that I see people my age (so about 20) accumulate debts at a startling pace to buy luxury items, and don't consider that odd. In fact, people tend to find it weird that I *don't* have debts. How on earth are those people going to teach their children to act responsibly with money?
big-screen tv's, mac's and expensive cell-phones? I'd love to be poor like that, how do I get started?
But seriously, I'm a student of low-income but I have some luxuries (none of the above mentioned though). I mean if someone sees someone using food-stamps and talking to a 200buck phone, you might consider the option that instead of your tax-money paying for the phone, the phone was a gift from someone? Or stolen :P, anyway. It's not all black and white, is it.
I've heard wild-rumours about people round here taking advantage of the wellfare benefits etc. but I doubt most of these stories are true. However stories of people being totally unable to manage their personal funds/budget are probably totally true. But I have no experience of U.S poverty, only local poverty and our poor aren't really poor on a global level either.
But seriously, I'm a student of low-income but I have some luxuries (none of the above mentioned though). I mean if someone sees someone using food-stamps and talking to a 200buck phone, you might consider the option that instead of your tax-money paying for the phone, the phone was a gift from someone? Or stolen :P, anyway. It's not all black and white, is it.
I've heard wild-rumours about people round here taking advantage of the wellfare benefits etc. but I doubt most of these stories are true. However stories of people being totally unable to manage their personal funds/budget are probably totally true. But I have no experience of U.S poverty, only local poverty and our poor aren't really poor on a global level either.