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While Obama has been enabling the Chicago Democratic Machine, Palin has been fighting corruption in the Alaskan Republican party.
Oh really? That's why she's under investigation for abuse of office, and why the Alaskan Republican Party currently has TWO major members facing CRIMINAL CHARGES for things like bribery/cronyism/corruption?
Well, seems like she's done a bang up job then.
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It doesn't make any sense for either side to throw around pointless accusations that are either baseless or yet unproven (such as the investigation of Palin, or whatever with Obama).
I mean, I suppose it's effective propaganda, but it's simply wrong.
I mean, I suppose it's effective propaganda, but it's simply wrong.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MasterHistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Oh really? That's why ... the Alaskan Republican Party currently has TWO major members facing CRIMINAL CHARGES for things like bribery/cronyism/corruption?
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... thanks to her effort on ethics reform and taking on the old guard in the Alaskan Republican Party ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122004983609584755.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
"Sarah Palin's political career is a case study in taking on the big boys.
Sarah Palin's reform resume would be remarkable in any political career. She entered politics at 28, winning a seat on the Wasilla city council as an opponent of tax increases. After she defeated Wasilla's three-term incumbent mayor four years later, she swept the mayor's cronies out of the bureaucracy.
In 2003, Alaska Governor Frank Murkowski appointed her to the state's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. Bear in mind that Mr. Murkowski had already served as junior U.S. Senator from Alaska for 22 years. Mr. Murkowski was junior senator for so long because Senator Ted Stevens (who was recently indicted for corruption) had lifetime tenure in the senior post.
Shortly after joining the oil and gas commission, Mrs. Palin commenced an ethics probe of the state's Republican party chairman, Randy Ruedrich, involving conflicts of interest with oil companies. The probe resulted in a $12,000 fine for the party chair.
She crossed party lines in 2004 to join a Democratic representative's ethics complaint over an international trade deal against the Republican Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who had ties to the Murkowski machine. Mr. Renkes resigned.
In late 2005, Mrs. Palin announced her run for Governor before then-Governor Murkowski had announced his intention to stand for re-election. In a three-way primary, Mrs. Palin got 51% to Mr. Murkowski's 19%. At the center of this campaign was a debate over competing proposals to build a natural gas pipeline across Alaska.
These columns wrote about Gov. Murkowski's smashing defeat by Mrs. Palin, noting that his pipeline proposal had been tainted by reports of sweetheart deals with energy companies. The editorial ended: "If Republicans are run out of Congress in November, one big reason will be that, like Mr. Murkowski, they have become far more comfortable running the government than reforming it." That is what happened, as disgusted GOP voters turned away from their own party and ceded control of Congress to the Democrats.
Against the odds, Mrs. Palin won that 2006 election against the state's former Democratic governor Tony Knowles. Most recently, she promoted the effort of her GOP lieutenant governor to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young, who with Senator Stevens created the earmark that sank the GOP, the notorious "bridge to nowhere."
Experience?
For starters, we'd say Governor Palin's credentials as an agent of reform exceed Barack Obama's. Mr. Obama rose through the Chicago Democratic machine without a peep of push-back. Alaska's politics are deeply inbred and backed by energy-industry money. Mr. Obama slid past the kind of forces that Mrs. Palin took head on. This is one reason her selection -- despite its campaign risks -- seems to have been so well received by Republicans yesterday. They are looking for a new generation of leaders."
Oh really? That's why ... the Alaskan Republican Party currently has TWO major members facing CRIMINAL CHARGES for things like bribery/cronyism/corruption?
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... thanks to her effort on ethics reform and taking on the old guard in the Alaskan Republican Party ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122004983609584755.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
"Sarah Palin's political career is a case study in taking on the big boys.
Sarah Palin's reform resume would be remarkable in any political career. She entered politics at 28, winning a seat on the Wasilla city council as an opponent of tax increases. After she defeated Wasilla's three-term incumbent mayor four years later, she swept the mayor's cronies out of the bureaucracy.
In 2003, Alaska Governor Frank Murkowski appointed her to the state's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. Bear in mind that Mr. Murkowski had already served as junior U.S. Senator from Alaska for 22 years. Mr. Murkowski was junior senator for so long because Senator Ted Stevens (who was recently indicted for corruption) had lifetime tenure in the senior post.
Shortly after joining the oil and gas commission, Mrs. Palin commenced an ethics probe of the state's Republican party chairman, Randy Ruedrich, involving conflicts of interest with oil companies. The probe resulted in a $12,000 fine for the party chair.
She crossed party lines in 2004 to join a Democratic representative's ethics complaint over an international trade deal against the Republican Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who had ties to the Murkowski machine. Mr. Renkes resigned.
In late 2005, Mrs. Palin announced her run for Governor before then-Governor Murkowski had announced his intention to stand for re-election. In a three-way primary, Mrs. Palin got 51% to Mr. Murkowski's 19%. At the center of this campaign was a debate over competing proposals to build a natural gas pipeline across Alaska.
These columns wrote about Gov. Murkowski's smashing defeat by Mrs. Palin, noting that his pipeline proposal had been tainted by reports of sweetheart deals with energy companies. The editorial ended: "If Republicans are run out of Congress in November, one big reason will be that, like Mr. Murkowski, they have become far more comfortable running the government than reforming it." That is what happened, as disgusted GOP voters turned away from their own party and ceded control of Congress to the Democrats.
Against the odds, Mrs. Palin won that 2006 election against the state's former Democratic governor Tony Knowles. Most recently, she promoted the effort of her GOP lieutenant governor to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young, who with Senator Stevens created the earmark that sank the GOP, the notorious "bridge to nowhere."
Experience?
For starters, we'd say Governor Palin's credentials as an agent of reform exceed Barack Obama's. Mr. Obama rose through the Chicago Democratic machine without a peep of push-back. Alaska's politics are deeply inbred and backed by energy-industry money. Mr. Obama slid past the kind of forces that Mrs. Palin took head on. This is one reason her selection -- despite its campaign risks -- seems to have been so well received by Republicans yesterday. They are looking for a new generation of leaders."
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]She also faces possible impeachment for abuse of office. Seems the state legislature just voted to hire an independent investigator to see if she used her position to try to have a former brother-in-law - an Alaska state trooper - fired from his job, and then fired the guy who refused to fire the brother-in-law. Yup. More of the same.
[/QUOTE] Hi Magical, you seem like a pleasant lady but people with your views seem to love to throw all sorts of accusations against people with different views, yet someone like Senator Edward M. (Teddy) Kennedy kills a girl in a car accident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne and receives no punishment and you have no problem with it. Or a congressman with your views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ballance can embezzle millions in public funds and you don't bat an eyelash. Or wanting to teach creationism is bad but using racist anti-semtic preachers like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeramiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan to gin up the ghetto vote is great.
[/QUOTE] Hi Magical, you seem like a pleasant lady but people with your views seem to love to throw all sorts of accusations against people with different views, yet someone like Senator Edward M. (Teddy) Kennedy kills a girl in a car accident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne and receives no punishment and you have no problem with it. Or a congressman with your views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ballance can embezzle millions in public funds and you don't bat an eyelash. Or wanting to teach creationism is bad but using racist anti-semtic preachers like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeramiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan to gin up the ghetto vote is great.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Charlie Brown wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]She also faces possible impeachment for abuse of office. Seems the state legislature just voted to hire an independent investigator to see if she used her position to try to have a former brother-in-law - an Alaska state trooper - fired from his job, and then fired the guy who refused to fire the brother-in-law. Yup. More of the same.
[/QUOTE] Hi Magical, you seem like a pleasant lady but people with your views seem to love to throw all sorts of accusations against people with different views, yet someone like Senator Edward M. (Teddy) Kennedy kills a girl in a car accident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne and receives no punishment and you have no problem with it. Or a congressman with your views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ballance can embezzle millions in public funds and you don't bat an eyelash. Or wanting to teach creationism is bad but using racist anti-semtic preachers like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeramiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan to gin up the ghetto vote is great.[/QUOTE]
You are assuming - and fabricating - quite a lot about my opinions, and if what you've said here were not so far fetched, I might be pissed. But just for the record, this thread is about Sara Palin, not Kennedy, Sharpton, Jackson, Wright or Farrakhan. And btw, the information in my post, which you quoted, is being reported in the paper and on the news. She IS being investigated. It's fact, not assumption nor fabrication.
[/QUOTE] Hi Magical, you seem like a pleasant lady but people with your views seem to love to throw all sorts of accusations against people with different views, yet someone like Senator Edward M. (Teddy) Kennedy kills a girl in a car accident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne and receives no punishment and you have no problem with it. Or a congressman with your views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ballance can embezzle millions in public funds and you don't bat an eyelash. Or wanting to teach creationism is bad but using racist anti-semtic preachers like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeramiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan to gin up the ghetto vote is great.[/QUOTE]
You are assuming - and fabricating - quite a lot about my opinions, and if what you've said here were not so far fetched, I might be pissed. But just for the record, this thread is about Sara Palin, not Kennedy, Sharpton, Jackson, Wright or Farrakhan. And btw, the information in my post, which you quoted, is being reported in the paper and on the news. She IS being investigated. It's fact, not assumption nor fabrication.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iron eagle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]it helps shore up the conservative wing of the party--[/QUOTE]
How will that wing react hearing that her 17-years old daughter is pregnant? Having sex before marriage at that age? :O
How will that wing react hearing that her 17-years old daughter is pregnant? Having sex before marriage at that age? :O
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME]so the US have a choice between the Irish sounding black dude with the co-runner that sounds like an internationally wanted terrorist in Barry O'Bama or the old right wing pensioner that has a 44 year old ex beauty queen dolly bird newsreader at his side?[/QUOTE]
Hahaha.
Hahaha.
This woman cannot be trusted: look what she has named her children.
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Willow
Piper
Bristol
What's up with that shit? Those aren't American names. Unless they are named after oilfields, I would suggest they're some kind of commie names -- possible code for something about gay marriage.
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Willow
Piper
Bristol
What's up with that shit? Those aren't American names. Unless they are named after oilfields, I would suggest they're some kind of commie names -- possible code for something about gay marriage.
Why holding elections? Obama has already been elected by the world and the media. I never saw anything like this. Here, in Brazil!, people don't stop talking about Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, I can't stand it anymore, every time we turn on the tv here there's one of his speeches being broadcast or commented on. I mean...what's this? People were saying here that his last speech was a benchmark in the HISTORY OF HUMANITY. I'm not kidding - and it was in a serious news channel. I mean, what the hell is happening!?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why holding elections? Obama has already been elected by the world and the media. I never saw anything like this. Here, in Brazil!, people don't stop talking about Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, I can't stand it anymore, every time we turn on the tv here there's one of his speeches being broadcast or commented on. I mean...what's this? People were saying here that his last speech was a benchmark in the HISTORY OF HUMANITY. I'm not kidding - and it was in a serious news channel. I mean, what the hell is happening!?[/QUOTE]
The religious right is being energized again and so the balance has shifted against logic. Obama may be "it" in Brazil but in the states, well, there's that same select bunch who is still not so sure. You know that bunch - they voted for Bush not once but twice.
The religious right is being energized again and so the balance has shifted against logic. Obama may be "it" in Brazil but in the states, well, there's that same select bunch who is still not so sure. You know that bunch - they voted for Bush not once but twice.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]The Mir@cle wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]iron eagle wrote: [/QUOTENAME]it helps shore up the conservative wing of the party--[/QUOTE]
How will that wing react hearing that her 17-years old daughter is pregnant? Having sex before marriage at that age? :O[/QUOTE]
I dunno. Probably the same way they react to Obama being born when his momma was 18 and unmarried.
How will that wing react hearing that her 17-years old daughter is pregnant? Having sex before marriage at that age? :O[/QUOTE]
I dunno. Probably the same way they react to Obama being born when his momma was 18 and unmarried.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Holly2003 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]This woman cannot be trusted: look what she has named her children.
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Willow
Piper
Bristol
What's up with that shit? Those aren't American names. Unless they are named after oilfields, I would suggest they're some kind of commie names -- possible code for something about gay marriage.
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Did she name her kids after Santa's raindeers?
I don't mind McCain, but what the fuck was he thinking when he picked this woman? Here's this ultra conservative woman who apparently didn't raise her daughter properly enough to tell her to keep her panties on (since safe sex is not an option according to Palin's moral code).
I appreciate McCain's "reaching across the aisle" approach, but at his age there's the possibility that he might croak while in office. I seriously don't want to see in the White House a woman with a 1950s mentality whose "family values" don't seem to even work at home, let alone the entire nation.
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Track
Willow
Piper
Bristol
What's up with that shit? Those aren't American names. Unless they are named after oilfields, I would suggest they're some kind of commie names -- possible code for something about gay marriage.
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Did she name her kids after Santa's raindeers?
I don't mind McCain, but what the fuck was he thinking when he picked this woman? Here's this ultra conservative woman who apparently didn't raise her daughter properly enough to tell her to keep her panties on (since safe sex is not an option according to Palin's moral code).
I appreciate McCain's "reaching across the aisle" approach, but at his age there's the possibility that he might croak while in office. I seriously don't want to see in the White House a woman with a 1950s mentality whose "family values" don't seem to even work at home, let alone the entire nation.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Here's this ultra conservative woman who apparently didn't raise her daughter properly enough to tell her to keep her panties on (since safe sex is not an option according to Palin's moral code).
I appreciate McCain's "reaching across the aisle" approach, but at his age there's the possibility that he might croak while in office. I seriously don't want to see in the White House a woman with a 1950s mentality whose "family values" don't seem to even work at home, let alone the entire nation. [/QUOTE]
We can only hope the majority of voters feel the same way as this.
Here's this ultra conservative woman who apparently didn't raise her daughter properly enough to tell her to keep her panties on (since safe sex is not an option according to Palin's moral code).
I appreciate McCain's "reaching across the aisle" approach, but at his age there's the possibility that he might croak while in office. I seriously don't want to see in the White House a woman with a 1950s mentality whose "family values" don't seem to even work at home, let alone the entire nation. [/QUOTE]
We can only hope the majority of voters feel the same way as this.
You know, I swear that McCain is ACTIVELY trying to lose this election:
1) Palin has retained a private lawyer to represent her in the investigation over her alleged abuse of power.
2) She was a member of a group for 2 years that has tried to push for secession from the US.
3) And have you guys seen the church video she's got out? In June she spoke to the graduating class from her home church (in her official capacity as governor, not as a private citizen). In the speech, she says that the soldiers in Iraq are sent there "by our national leaders on a mission from God, and we have to pray that God's will be done" and that, apparently, God also wills companies to unite to build the Alaska oil pipeline.
The video is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html
I realize it comes from an ultra-liberal blog. But you don't have to read the blog. In fact, I recommend not reading it. Just scroll down the page until you find the video (taken straight from the church's website) and watch what she says.
*Shudders*
1) Palin has retained a private lawyer to represent her in the investigation over her alleged abuse of power.
2) She was a member of a group for 2 years that has tried to push for secession from the US.
3) And have you guys seen the church video she's got out? In June she spoke to the graduating class from her home church (in her official capacity as governor, not as a private citizen). In the speech, she says that the soldiers in Iraq are sent there "by our national leaders on a mission from God, and we have to pray that God's will be done" and that, apparently, God also wills companies to unite to build the Alaska oil pipeline.
The video is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html
I realize it comes from an ultra-liberal blog. But you don't have to read the blog. In fact, I recommend not reading it. Just scroll down the page until you find the video (taken straight from the church's website) and watch what she says.
*Shudders*
Haha. Knocked Up.