[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Markman38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just mention The Who, only two of the original 4 members are alive and they made a come-back album after 22 years which was really unbelievable great. That was what I was hoping for carrying the name Queen after all these years[/QUOTE]
well thats a different band and evidently the members who made their sound are still alive, with Queen however you HAVE to have Freddie to have Queen quality music, he was what made Queen what they were.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Markman38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Markman38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Markman38 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The only problem is the name Queen. That name give expectations (or something like that). The prejudice I had was about the name Queen. And I know I should be warned after all because songs like SINT, The Call or Invincable Hope where allready a sign. I just wonder if the 46664 recordings are ever released how will they credit SINT?? Because now it's credited QPR which is funccy offcourse but at other hand same with Warboys. But back to the main issue.The Queen sound was evolving off course nobody wanted to hear a remake of KYA in 1991, but there where always songs taht stand out, like Was it all Worth it, Innuendo, All God's People, Slightly Mad etc etc. This album just haven't one track that gives me (personal opinion) that suprise, that twist. That could be because Freddie and John aren't involved. That could be because Brian and Roger just wanted to do something really different just to prove that this is another band like they stated.But if it's so important to prove it's a new band or another band why keeping the old name except for the obvious commercial reason, like Greg Brooks said in that Brazilian interview. TCR is indeed a good rock/blues album if you listen to it without prejudice but hoping for a Queen album gives you hope to music on higher or maybe should I say different standards.[/QUOTE]
Exactly and that higher standard can ONLY come with Freddie![/QUOTE]
Come on Mr Bad Guy wasn't a great album it was the chemistry between the four of them[/QUOTE]
hmm lets see, isnt the song from freddies solo album "made in heaven" in the last official Queen album? hmm yeah it must be a bad song.[/QUOTE]
Isnt'the title track Made in Heaven not an old Cross song (aka Roger Taylor solo), yeah he can't write good songs. Your missing my point I think the solo album Strange Frontier from Roger Taylor is the best solo (rock)album any Queen member ever made solo but even then Man on Fire didn't peak the charts that high. It was the chemistry between the four of them. ALthough Barcelona is maybe the best solo album bit you cannot say that that is rock[/QUOTE]
It is very obvious that Freddie was the one who made them what they were and the one who made their sound the way it was, without him there is no Queen as he basically made their sound.[/QUOTE]
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Exactly and that higher standard can ONLY come with Freddie![/QUOTE]
Come on Mr Bad Guy wasn't a great album it was the chemistry between the four of them[/QUOTE]
hmm lets see, isnt the song from freddies solo album "made in heaven" in the last official Queen album? hmm yeah it must be a bad song.[/QUOTE]
Isnt'the title track Made in Heaven not an old Cross song (aka Roger Taylor solo), yeah he can't write good songs. Your missing my point I think the solo album Strange Frontier from Roger Taylor is the best solo (rock)album any Queen member ever made solo but even then Man on Fire didn't peak the charts that high. It was the chemistry between the four of them. ALthough Barcelona is maybe the best solo album bit you cannot say that that is rock[/QUOTE]
It is very obvious that Freddie was the one who made them what they were and the one who made their sound the way it was, without him there is no Queen as he basically made their sound.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dane wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Great album... when keeping in mind what Freddie gave to Queen albums. There is no groundbreaking graphical design, no perfect compositions of songs seeming they've always been there... But there IS a very strong, back to basic, having fun, jamming, blues, rock album with a message in its lyrics.
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I don't get it. Too many people enjoying the album. Weren't we supposed to denounce Brian and Roger for abusing Queen's sacred name by releasing such a poor material? For wanting MONEY and AUDIENCE? Bastards. They record stuff and they want, first, people to listen to it, and second, to be rewarded by their work! It's a shame. How these guys are not in jail yet? Freddie didn't like money, he despised all that. He was not like these guys, you know?
We're getting too easy on Brian and Roger. Soon these mad guys will actually begin to believe that they are Queen, or have all the right to play as Queen, and that they knew Freddie much more than any of us. They're dangerous. [/QUOTE]
So the album is bad because they use the name Queen? Not very objective... and by the way, I agree with the fact that they are a little too preoccupied by making money off the Queen-machine. But more in the sense of rerererereleasing old material in new packages.
VOODOOOOOOOOO[/QUOTE]
I don't get it. Too many people enjoying the album. Weren't we supposed to denounce Brian and Roger for abusing Queen's sacred name by releasing such a poor material? For wanting MONEY and AUDIENCE? Bastards. They record stuff and they want, first, people to listen to it, and second, to be rewarded by their work! It's a shame. How these guys are not in jail yet? Freddie didn't like money, he despised all that. He was not like these guys, you know?
We're getting too easy on Brian and Roger. Soon these mad guys will actually begin to believe that they are Queen, or have all the right to play as Queen, and that they knew Freddie much more than any of us. They're dangerous. [/QUOTE]
So the album is bad because they use the name Queen? Not very objective... and by the way, I agree with the fact that they are a little too preoccupied by making money off the Queen-machine. But more in the sense of rerererereleasing old material in new packages.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mr_creosote wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There seems to be a constant feeling that so-called fans were let down because the new album
is a different style to previous ones, that it is not "classic" Queen. What people seem to forget
is there IS NO Queen "sound" - Queen's music has constantly evolved over the years, changing
with tastes. Yes, certain elements were constant - but this is one of the things that make musicians legends - The Beatles, Queen, Bowie, The Who, Michael Jackson - all evolved their music over time. Artists who did one style of music and never changed have very rarely "made it" and had lengthy careers. Do you really think that Queen with Freddie would have lasted as long as they did churning out 'Killer Queen'-esque tracks year after year?
Yes, some of the songs aren't as good as others from Queen's history, but you can say that about
most other albums. Are 'Don't Try So Hard', 'Delilah', 'Party', or 'Tear It Up' anything like 'We Are The Champions' or 'Somebody To Love' in their style or quality - of course not, so why should any of Queen's new music be?
The important thing to note is that the majority of these songs are SO different from previous albums - it's obvious that Brian, Roger and Paul aren't trying to recapture the Queen sound, they are simply doing what they feel to be right. And using the name Queen - you try to name another band that has been together for 15+ years and not had a single change in line-up in that time. Some groups like Black Sabbath had line-ups with none of the original members. Brian and Roger were as big a part in the formation and success of Queen as John and Freddie were and they have every right to continue to use the Queen name if they wish.
What should be remembered is that Brian and Roger are doing this because they enjoy making music - they are certainly not doing it for the money. There should be a little less of the endless criticism and sniping and a little more appreciation of the sheer guts this must have taken by Brian and Roger to move on. If they were simply cashing in, or walking over Freddie's grave as some people have said, they would have done this years ago.
Finally, let's not forget the courage of Paul Rodgers to even try to walk in the shadow of rock's greatest showman. Paul is a very talented, respected and successful singer and musician and he is putting a lot on the line with this collaboration. [/QUOTE]
Well said, took the word otta my mouth!!
is a different style to previous ones, that it is not "classic" Queen. What people seem to forget
is there IS NO Queen "sound" - Queen's music has constantly evolved over the years, changing
with tastes. Yes, certain elements were constant - but this is one of the things that make musicians legends - The Beatles, Queen, Bowie, The Who, Michael Jackson - all evolved their music over time. Artists who did one style of music and never changed have very rarely "made it" and had lengthy careers. Do you really think that Queen with Freddie would have lasted as long as they did churning out 'Killer Queen'-esque tracks year after year?
Yes, some of the songs aren't as good as others from Queen's history, but you can say that about
most other albums. Are 'Don't Try So Hard', 'Delilah', 'Party', or 'Tear It Up' anything like 'We Are The Champions' or 'Somebody To Love' in their style or quality - of course not, so why should any of Queen's new music be?
The important thing to note is that the majority of these songs are SO different from previous albums - it's obvious that Brian, Roger and Paul aren't trying to recapture the Queen sound, they are simply doing what they feel to be right. And using the name Queen - you try to name another band that has been together for 15+ years and not had a single change in line-up in that time. Some groups like Black Sabbath had line-ups with none of the original members. Brian and Roger were as big a part in the formation and success of Queen as John and Freddie were and they have every right to continue to use the Queen name if they wish.
What should be remembered is that Brian and Roger are doing this because they enjoy making music - they are certainly not doing it for the money. There should be a little less of the endless criticism and sniping and a little more appreciation of the sheer guts this must have taken by Brian and Roger to move on. If they were simply cashing in, or walking over Freddie's grave as some people have said, they would have done this years ago.
Finally, let's not forget the courage of Paul Rodgers to even try to walk in the shadow of rock's greatest showman. Paul is a very talented, respected and successful singer and musician and he is putting a lot on the line with this collaboration. [/QUOTE]
Well said, took the word otta my mouth!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]rockthecosmos2008 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mr_creosote wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There seems to be a constant feeling that so-called fans were let down because the new album
is a different style to previous ones, that it is not "classic" Queen. What people seem to forget
is there IS NO Queen "sound" - Queen's music has constantly evolved over the years, changing
with tastes. Yes, certain elements were constant - but this is one of the things that make musicians legends - The Beatles, Queen, Bowie, The Who, Michael Jackson - all evolved their music over time. Artists who did one style of music and never changed have very rarely "made it" and had lengthy careers. Do you really think that Queen with Freddie would have lasted as long as they did churning out 'Killer Queen'-esque tracks year after year?
Yes, some of the songs aren't as good as others from Queen's history, but you can say that about
most other albums. Are 'Don't Try So Hard', 'Delilah', 'Party', or 'Tear It Up' anything like 'We Are The Champions' or 'Somebody To Love' in their style or quality - of course not, so why should any of Queen's new music be?
The important thing to note is that the majority of these songs are SO different from previous albums - it's obvious that Brian, Roger and Paul aren't trying to recapture the Queen sound, they are simply doing what they feel to be right. And using the name Queen - you try to name another band that has been together for 15+ years and not had a single change in line-up in that time. Some groups like Black Sabbath had line-ups with none of the original members. Brian and Roger were as big a part in the formation and success of Queen as John and Freddie were and they have every right to continue to use the Queen name if they wish.
What should be remembered is that Brian and Roger are doing this because they enjoy making music - they are certainly not doing it for the money. There should be a little less of the endless criticism and sniping and a little more appreciation of the sheer guts this must have taken by Brian and Roger to move on. If they were simply cashing in, or walking over Freddie's grave as some people have said, they would have done this years ago.
Finally, let's not forget the courage of Paul Rodgers to even try to walk in the shadow of rock's greatest showman. Paul is a very talented, respected and successful singer and musician and he is putting a lot on the line with this collaboration. [/QUOTE]
Well said, took the word otta my mouth!![/QUOTE]
Yes you've hit the nail on the head, perhaps everyone would be happier with Meatloaf!! Queen+Meatloaf?? Hmmm! Thats a lot of ego and how long would the shows end up being?
is a different style to previous ones, that it is not "classic" Queen. What people seem to forget
is there IS NO Queen "sound" - Queen's music has constantly evolved over the years, changing
with tastes. Yes, certain elements were constant - but this is one of the things that make musicians legends - The Beatles, Queen, Bowie, The Who, Michael Jackson - all evolved their music over time. Artists who did one style of music and never changed have very rarely "made it" and had lengthy careers. Do you really think that Queen with Freddie would have lasted as long as they did churning out 'Killer Queen'-esque tracks year after year?
Yes, some of the songs aren't as good as others from Queen's history, but you can say that about
most other albums. Are 'Don't Try So Hard', 'Delilah', 'Party', or 'Tear It Up' anything like 'We Are The Champions' or 'Somebody To Love' in their style or quality - of course not, so why should any of Queen's new music be?
The important thing to note is that the majority of these songs are SO different from previous albums - it's obvious that Brian, Roger and Paul aren't trying to recapture the Queen sound, they are simply doing what they feel to be right. And using the name Queen - you try to name another band that has been together for 15+ years and not had a single change in line-up in that time. Some groups like Black Sabbath had line-ups with none of the original members. Brian and Roger were as big a part in the formation and success of Queen as John and Freddie were and they have every right to continue to use the Queen name if they wish.
What should be remembered is that Brian and Roger are doing this because they enjoy making music - they are certainly not doing it for the money. There should be a little less of the endless criticism and sniping and a little more appreciation of the sheer guts this must have taken by Brian and Roger to move on. If they were simply cashing in, or walking over Freddie's grave as some people have said, they would have done this years ago.
Finally, let's not forget the courage of Paul Rodgers to even try to walk in the shadow of rock's greatest showman. Paul is a very talented, respected and successful singer and musician and he is putting a lot on the line with this collaboration. [/QUOTE]
Well said, took the word otta my mouth!![/QUOTE]
Yes you've hit the nail on the head, perhaps everyone would be happier with Meatloaf!! Queen+Meatloaf?? Hmmm! Thats a lot of ego and how long would the shows end up being?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Actually from what I heard Robbie W was almost desperate to front Brian and Roger. I can understand what they didnt want it though[/QUOTE]
I would guess the main reason was because he's a talentless gimp!!
I would guess the main reason was because he's a talentless gimp!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dane wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Yara wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Dane wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Great album... when keeping in mind what Freddie gave to Queen albums. There is no groundbreaking graphical design, no perfect compositions of songs seeming they've always been there... But there IS a very strong, back to basic, having fun, jamming, blues, rock album with a message in its lyrics.
VOODOOOOOOOOO[/QUOTE]
I don't get it. Too many people enjoying the album. Weren't we supposed to denounce Brian and Roger for abusing Queen's sacred name by releasing such a poor material? For wanting MONEY and AUDIENCE? Bastards. They record stuff and they want, first, people to listen to it, and second, to be rewarded by their work! It's a shame. How these guys are not in jail yet? Freddie didn't like money, he despised all that. He was not like these guys, you know?
We're getting too easy on Brian and Roger. Soon these mad guys will actually begin to believe that they are Queen, or have all the right to play as Queen, and that they knew Freddie much more than any of us. They're dangerous. [/QUOTE]
So the album is bad because they use the name Queen? Not very objective... and by the way, I agree with the fact that they are a little too preoccupied by making money off the Queen-machine. But more in the sense of rerererereleasing old material in new packages. [/QUOTE]
She was joking. It's obvious she was joking, as she knows Freddie LOVED money and would sometimes tease interviewers by saying he does music just for the money.
VOODOOOOOOOOO[/QUOTE]
I don't get it. Too many people enjoying the album. Weren't we supposed to denounce Brian and Roger for abusing Queen's sacred name by releasing such a poor material? For wanting MONEY and AUDIENCE? Bastards. They record stuff and they want, first, people to listen to it, and second, to be rewarded by their work! It's a shame. How these guys are not in jail yet? Freddie didn't like money, he despised all that. He was not like these guys, you know?
We're getting too easy on Brian and Roger. Soon these mad guys will actually begin to believe that they are Queen, or have all the right to play as Queen, and that they knew Freddie much more than any of us. They're dangerous. [/QUOTE]
So the album is bad because they use the name Queen? Not very objective... and by the way, I agree with the fact that they are a little too preoccupied by making money off the Queen-machine. But more in the sense of rerererereleasing old material in new packages. [/QUOTE]
She was joking. It's obvious she was joking, as she knows Freddie LOVED money and would sometimes tease interviewers by saying he does music just for the money.
Hi everyone, this is my first post, so I'll try not to make too many enemies.
My heart was racing when I realised that I was about to buy a new Queen album.
I listened to the whole album non stop for two days and could not really make out whether I liked it or not.
In the end I thought that the one thing that Queen always did was to be inventive, many times to turn the whole world of music upside down. This for me was the Thrill of Queen. And even today the albums from the 70's 80's and 90's still shock me as to how different they are to any other music.
In my opinion, what we have now from Q & PR is an album, which is like a thousand other albums I've heard. But I'm grateful that it's there anyway.
My heart was racing when I realised that I was about to buy a new Queen album.
I listened to the whole album non stop for two days and could not really make out whether I liked it or not.
In the end I thought that the one thing that Queen always did was to be inventive, many times to turn the whole world of music upside down. This for me was the Thrill of Queen. And even today the albums from the 70's 80's and 90's still shock me as to how different they are to any other music.
In my opinion, what we have now from Q & PR is an album, which is like a thousand other albums I've heard. But I'm grateful that it's there anyway.
Call Me is better than Bohemian Rhapsody. Just my two cents. Just my two cents. Just my two cents. Just my two cents. Just my two cents...
Well,I think Brian and Roger just went back to Smile by joining Paul Rodgers!this means they had been and still are rock and roll performers!we don't need to consider them always a part of Queen,it's not queen anymore, because that band was formed by John Deacon, Brian May, Freddie Mercury and Roger Taylor. Queen, as a band, simply don't exist anymore!let's just focuse on the fact that Brian May and Roger Taylor are two wonderful musicians who improved and eventually shaped their skills in the band called Queen and that's it!now, as performers, they simply cannot stop being what they have been for the most of their lives:musicians!!!On the wave of 70s Rock revival, they wanted to join one of the most succesful act of the 70s, paul rodgers who is far aware he's there not in competition with freddie mercury, but just as a singer!a blues and rock singer who is having a wonderful time with brian and roger!i think we should thank them all, because they are giving us the chance to enjoy a kind of music which is going to disappear, which won't exist anymore when brian roger and paul will retire or will be dead or whatever...so, just enjoy the music, stop thinking "this is not Queen"...of course it isn't,but I think it's still a kind of Magic going on!!!We can still listen to experienced musicians playing together, with their unique styles, songs, sounds(a rare thing nowadays)...I'm looking forward to their performance in Milan, hoping Roger will make it through the gig, because on Nelson Mandela's 90 birthday party, he seemed a little bit out of shape!Thank you Brian Roger and Paul!