[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rich Tea wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Dear Tero
I am no more the voice of reason for true Queen fans than you are for those who feel that Queen is there property and how dare Brian and Roger continue to use the moniker that they helped create and they played a massive part in establishing.[/QUOTE]
I'm glad to hear that. At least it's comforting to know the extremists are in the minority on both sides of the QPR issue.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rich Tea wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You bought the records yet they didn't ask you if you liked the idea of asking Paul to jump on board how dare they eh? i guess you feel they are jumping all over poor Freddies grave don't you?[/QUOTE]
At least in my opinion it isn't quite that simplistic.
Yes, we all know that Brian and Roger have the legal right to use the Queen name, and they can choose whoever they want to play with. We also know that everybody has a right to criticise the album on its own merit. I don't get any kicks out out of Brian May's guitar playing alone, so there isn't much for me, and I'm guessing I'm not alone.
I think Freddie's grave comes into question when the fans here at QZ are downplaying Freddie's significance in an effort to justify the 2-man lineup using the Queen name.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rich Tea wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You don't like it your choice but in this democratic forum as Album & Ticket sales will show you are in the minority, I think thats what you find hardest to deal with so you try and shout that little bit louder.[/QUOTE]
The amateur psychologist in me also says something about all those QPR fans who don't want to hear the negative opinions on this message board. Someone who's confident about his own opinion doesn't mind hearing opposing viewpoints, and demanding others to shut up is a sign of not wanting to admit those same things to yourself.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rich Tea wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I owe Queen big time! Music has been my life because of them. In the 70's & 80's had Freddie farted in a bucket and released it I would have bought it and the 12 inch remix and played it until the grooves had worn out. To now hear a 61 year old Brian May playing some of the best riffs of his life and Roger in love with drumming again is like viagra to my ears!
I will cut you a deal my last post on this subject I accept and respect your view although I don't agree with it now please respect mine.[/QUOTE]
None of us owes the band anymore than the band owes us. The band can release whatever they want and we can have any opinion we want.
I will respect everybody's views up to the point where they start demanding others to shut up.
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I have to say, I think timantt1's review is absolutely spot on - there is nothing original or particularly interesting on this album.
To me, the majority of it, to me, sounds like a Paul Rogers middle of the road blues rock album kinda thing to me. I wasn't expecting a Queen album, since this is not Queen, but there is nothing particularly interesting about this at all.
When listening to each song, I recognized the 'type' of song fairly on in each track, no surprises, the majority of it is just rock by numbers. Like the topic starter says, alot of it reminds me of other songs by other people. I enjoyed 'Voodoo', but like the starter said, it just sounds like something Clapton would do.
"Say It's Not True" is probably the highlight of the album for me, and I realize that this is the most typically Queen sounding track on the album, but do not confuse my general dislike of the album to this album to a dislike of Paul Rogers. Paul Rogers has a phenomenal voice, and is a fantastic performer; the Q + PR gig I saw a few years back was amazing and I enjoyed both Queen and Paul's material.
However, I just don't think the writing in this album is up to much. Simple as that.
To me, the majority of it, to me, sounds like a Paul Rogers middle of the road blues rock album kinda thing to me. I wasn't expecting a Queen album, since this is not Queen, but there is nothing particularly interesting about this at all.
When listening to each song, I recognized the 'type' of song fairly on in each track, no surprises, the majority of it is just rock by numbers. Like the topic starter says, alot of it reminds me of other songs by other people. I enjoyed 'Voodoo', but like the starter said, it just sounds like something Clapton would do.
"Say It's Not True" is probably the highlight of the album for me, and I realize that this is the most typically Queen sounding track on the album, but do not confuse my general dislike of the album to this album to a dislike of Paul Rogers. Paul Rogers has a phenomenal voice, and is a fantastic performer; the Q + PR gig I saw a few years back was amazing and I enjoyed both Queen and Paul's material.
However, I just don't think the writing in this album is up to much. Simple as that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]timantt1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So, I don't know if this poor efford should even ve called Queen, but
1. Cosmos Rockin'
Just about the most unoriginal song ever, Status quo meets ZZ-top meets Chuck Berry, and the lyrics are just so horrible that you start to feel co-ashame.
2. Time To Shine
One of the best songs in this album, actually very good, but I'm afraid it would have needed some Freddie's 'A kind of magic' treatment in order to be commercially succesfull hit.
Levyn parhaita biisejä, mutta olisi tarvinnut Freddien 'A kind of magic' käsittelyä tullakseen todella tarttuvaksi. Ehkä jos Freddie eläisi tästä olisi voinut tulla hitti.
3. Still Burnin' (4:04)
This is standard Whitesnake blues-rock song from early 80'ies, could have easily been from "Come and get it" or from "Saints & sineers".
4. Small (4:39)
Acoustic song that has nothing original. 'Everybody needs some peace and quiet' and so on so makes you think that this is actually remake of some Roger songs *Happines' meets ' Everybody hurst sometimes'.
5. Warboys (3:18)
Well, is this overleft of Bad Co album? Well, Brian plays well, but is this new 'Gimme the prize' or something. Nothing catchy, just mindless nonsense.
6. We Believe (6:08)
Well, new 'foreign sand'. A kind of epic song that would have needed Freddie's 'A kind of magic' to be catchy. The lyrics are some kind of repeat of 'The miracle' lyrics, without any humour.
7. Call Me (2:59)
Well, this is 'Let your heart rule your heart' meets 'On my way up' just not as good as either of them. The line "Call me if you need my love" is used countless times. Somehow this reminds me of Cheap Trick, maybe this is copy of 'If you want my love' or some other of their hits.
8. Voodoo (4:27)
Standard blues. Reminds Eric Clapton.
But in this album this sounds as almost original idea, so one of the best songs.
9. Some Things That Glitter (4:03)
Journey of 70'ies? Or maybe this is just a copy of Nazareth's 'Love hurts'?
10. C-lebrity (3:38)
The lyrics are horrible. Unfortunately, I start to understand why this was relaeased as single. Awful song, but commercially this album has nothing better to offer.
11. Through The Night (4:54)
Well, this is OK song, but very forgottable. You don't remember it after you listen the album, maybe because you just remember all the horrible ones.
12. Say It's Not True (4:00)
This is by far the best song in this album. The only one to have good arrangement and fine lyrics.
13. Surf's Up . . . School's Out ! (5:38)
Well, since they don't come up with good lyrics, they just recycle old ones?
The song is just Aerosmith copy, it has parts fron many Aerosmith songs from 'Sweet Emotions' to the 'Livin in the edge' and the harmonica sound finalises the Aerosmith feel.
14. Small reprise (2:05)
The second best song of the album. As an instrumental this actually works. Nice ending.
Lyrically this is the worst 'Queen' album ever
Musically it is the second worst after Flash Gordon, however Flash Gordon had more musical originality and ambition
Hot space was just genious masterpiece compared to this[/QUOTE] I agree that hot space is a masterpiece compared to this album, and mostly agree with everything in your review. Maybe the song 'small' and 'some things that glitter' are my 2 favorites, but overall not a good album. The song 'the cosmo rockin' is simply embarrassing.
1. Cosmos Rockin'
Just about the most unoriginal song ever, Status quo meets ZZ-top meets Chuck Berry, and the lyrics are just so horrible that you start to feel co-ashame.
2. Time To Shine
One of the best songs in this album, actually very good, but I'm afraid it would have needed some Freddie's 'A kind of magic' treatment in order to be commercially succesfull hit.
Levyn parhaita biisejä, mutta olisi tarvinnut Freddien 'A kind of magic' käsittelyä tullakseen todella tarttuvaksi. Ehkä jos Freddie eläisi tästä olisi voinut tulla hitti.
3. Still Burnin' (4:04)
This is standard Whitesnake blues-rock song from early 80'ies, could have easily been from "Come and get it" or from "Saints & sineers".
4. Small (4:39)
Acoustic song that has nothing original. 'Everybody needs some peace and quiet' and so on so makes you think that this is actually remake of some Roger songs *Happines' meets ' Everybody hurst sometimes'.
5. Warboys (3:18)
Well, is this overleft of Bad Co album? Well, Brian plays well, but is this new 'Gimme the prize' or something. Nothing catchy, just mindless nonsense.
6. We Believe (6:08)
Well, new 'foreign sand'. A kind of epic song that would have needed Freddie's 'A kind of magic' to be catchy. The lyrics are some kind of repeat of 'The miracle' lyrics, without any humour.
7. Call Me (2:59)
Well, this is 'Let your heart rule your heart' meets 'On my way up' just not as good as either of them. The line "Call me if you need my love" is used countless times. Somehow this reminds me of Cheap Trick, maybe this is copy of 'If you want my love' or some other of their hits.
8. Voodoo (4:27)
Standard blues. Reminds Eric Clapton.
But in this album this sounds as almost original idea, so one of the best songs.
9. Some Things That Glitter (4:03)
Journey of 70'ies? Or maybe this is just a copy of Nazareth's 'Love hurts'?
10. C-lebrity (3:38)
The lyrics are horrible. Unfortunately, I start to understand why this was relaeased as single. Awful song, but commercially this album has nothing better to offer.
11. Through The Night (4:54)
Well, this is OK song, but very forgottable. You don't remember it after you listen the album, maybe because you just remember all the horrible ones.
12. Say It's Not True (4:00)
This is by far the best song in this album. The only one to have good arrangement and fine lyrics.
13. Surf's Up . . . School's Out ! (5:38)
Well, since they don't come up with good lyrics, they just recycle old ones?
The song is just Aerosmith copy, it has parts fron many Aerosmith songs from 'Sweet Emotions' to the 'Livin in the edge' and the harmonica sound finalises the Aerosmith feel.
14. Small reprise (2:05)
The second best song of the album. As an instrumental this actually works. Nice ending.
Lyrically this is the worst 'Queen' album ever
Musically it is the second worst after Flash Gordon, however Flash Gordon had more musical originality and ambition
Hot space was just genious masterpiece compared to this[/QUOTE] I agree that hot space is a masterpiece compared to this album, and mostly agree with everything in your review. Maybe the song 'small' and 'some things that glitter' are my 2 favorites, but overall not a good album. The song 'the cosmo rockin' is simply embarrassing.
Being a Queen fan for 17 years I may confirm: Cosmos Rockin' is horrible song. I don't know what's wrong with Warboys and C-Lebrity, for me its lyrics works fine, but Cosmos Rockin' as horrible as Rollin' Over or Slow Down from Brian's solo albums.
Seems like Roger is more 'queenie' than Brian is on this album. Since The Call Dr May's songwriting/producing abilities haven't become better, I'm afraid. Though guitar playing still rocks.
Seems like Roger is more 'queenie' than Brian is on this album. Since The Call Dr May's songwriting/producing abilities haven't become better, I'm afraid. Though guitar playing still rocks.
sorry, but surf's up...schools out is Just as bad as the cosmo's rockin. 'still driven' loses it way towards the end of the song with that stupid we will rock you sample, but there are some grower's like warboys and voodoo.
can't people just lighten up yes the title track isn't earth shatteringly "deep" but its not meant to be its an ice breaker for the album, my god wasn't party of the miracle equally "lame"?. I for one like the album its rather interesting looking on the queen clippings site which is linked on here, to look back at the "holy grail" of the innuendo album at the time the music press slated it, the same with the miracle.
so if you don't like it dont bother turning up for the tour
so if you don't like it dont bother turning up for the tour
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i dont agree with you about flash gordon, that is a great song and very well written.[/QUOTE]
I like to think of it as your theme song.
In fact, you should come out on stage to this song, wearing a cape or something. You could extend your arms up in the air and run around for about 3-4 minutes "pseudo-flying", while your band gets their devices on and then explode in an oogey Treasure Moment mess.
I like to think of it as your theme song.
In fact, you should come out on stage to this song, wearing a cape or something. You could extend your arms up in the air and run around for about 3-4 minutes "pseudo-flying", while your band gets their devices on and then explode in an oogey Treasure Moment mess.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]can't people just lighten up yes the title track isn't earth shatteringly "deep" but its not meant to be its an ice breaker for the album, my god wasn't party of the miracle equally "lame"?. I for one like the album its rather interesting looking on the queen clippings site which is linked on here, to look back at the "holy grail" of the innuendo album at the time the music press slated it, the same with the miracle.
so if you don't like it dont bother turning up for the tour[/QUOTE] No one said party was a good song. It's one of Queen worst, and so is cosmos rockin. Equally as bad IMO.
so if you don't like it dont bother turning up for the tour[/QUOTE] No one said party was a good song. It's one of Queen worst, and so is cosmos rockin. Equally as bad IMO.
I think the same as timantt1 about the album..
I love Paul live.. It is different, but he is doing a gr8 job and is a wonderfull artist.
This is not my kind off music. I only like SINT.. thats says much!!
I love Paul live.. It is different, but he is doing a gr8 job and is a wonderfull artist.
This is not my kind off music. I only like SINT.. thats says much!!
Actually I rather like SUSO and CR. But then I haven't found a track on the album I DON'T like. :-)
[QUOTE]To now hear ... is like viagra to my ears![/QUOTE]
Well... never heard of that medicine before. Or at least this particular usage.
Your time of being a fan isn't a requirement to express your opinions either. But it doesn't mean that they can't be valid.
And BTW the best song of TCR is that one that copies the Pinball Wizard riff. Slowed down.
Well... never heard of that medicine before. Or at least this particular usage.
Your time of being a fan isn't a requirement to express your opinions either. But it doesn't mean that they can't be valid.
And BTW the best song of TCR is that one that copies the Pinball Wizard riff. Slowed down.