Wow! Great posts about the 60s in Great Britain! This time was absolutely fascinating, swinging, promising. There were so many fine bands and singers there at the time, but surely the Beatles were the best, the most original, the most innovative, the most diverse. Besides, they were great personalities, interesting and so different. And certainly they were extremely handsome, charismatic and humorous. Lennon-McCartney are considered the best songwriting duet of the 20th century, the best composers.
As for me I love them very much and consider myself to be a fan (after Queen). I truly believe that the Beatles are the best band of the 60s, while Queen is the best band of the 70s. My most beloved singers are Freddie and John Lennon. I am convinced that we can`t compare the two bands because they are different rock: The Beatles are pop-rock and Queen is glam-rock, and because they belong to different decades.
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Well I love both of them. I guess that makes me a happier person.
The Beatles could rock with the best even if it has been somewhat forgotten.
There were loads of great bands during the 60s, Beatles were the head of the pack but that doesnt mean others are not worth listening to.
Many of the bands definitely had a huge influence on Queen, The Who and The Kinks most obviously.
Odessey and Oracle by the Zombies is one of the best albums ever if you ask me. Ogdens Nut gone flake by the Small Faces is another. Great british psychedelia, its not a far stretch that some members of Queen heard them since they have a lot in common with what they did later.
The Kinks did a whole lot of great Queen-similar music up until the late 70s aswell.
There were loads of great bands during the 60s, Beatles were the head of the pack but that doesnt mean others are not worth listening to.
Many of the bands definitely had a huge influence on Queen, The Who and The Kinks most obviously.
Odessey and Oracle by the Zombies is one of the best albums ever if you ask me. Ogdens Nut gone flake by the Small Faces is another. Great british psychedelia, its not a far stretch that some members of Queen heard them since they have a lot in common with what they did later.
The Kinks did a whole lot of great Queen-similar music up until the late 70s aswell.
Hey SomebodyWhoLoves, how old are you? You sound like me in my teenage years, when I madly fell in love with Queen and thought that every other band was bullshit!
I used to hate the Beatles, to believe they were overrated. Was I so stupid!!! I totally love them now.
Yes, I was stupid and so are you now. I honestly hope that in time you'll get over it and start to appreciate other kinds of music, without feeling that your love for Queen is threatened by that. And I do hope you get over your Freddie phase and start to appreciate Queen for what they are, namely a band made of four wonderful musicians, not only an amazing singer.
You have no idea how much you miss out by holding on to these beliefs. Take my word for it, I've been in the same situation. Because I now love the Beatles too, a whole new world of music and beauty has opened up for me. Because I can now listen to and enjoy so many bands and music genres, I have the opportunity to discover loads and loads of exciting stuff, older and newer. Queen is not the only band in my world anymore, but it certainly is and will for ever be number one in this world of mine!
Don't be obsessed with Queen. Don't be obsessed with anything. It's bad for your soul. Take the word of a future psychologist for it! The goal of the human being is to evolve in his lifetime, to enrich his soul. If you get stuck only with Freddie, you are not evolving at all, my friend! And you are the only one who loses such a great deal!!!
You may think now I am wrong. That Freddie is the one and only and there is nothing valuable in this world except him. But this is not making him any justice. If he is the only good musician and everything else is crap is not as great as to be the best musician out of a series of other huge musicians. Downplaying everything else is ultimately downplaying Freddie too.
Now about the Beatles: it's not only true that John Lennon was a huge inspiration to Freddie, but Queen has been quite heavily influenced by the Beatles. The Beatles' foray into glam-rock (take the "White Album" or "Abbey Road" for example) has clearly influenced Queen's style. You may not like it, but you can't deny it (of course, you can say this is not true, but I'd love to hear your arguments, if you have any).
Oh and... of course you have every right in the world to not like the Beatles. But you have no right to call people who listen to them stupid. You're the only one who might prove himself quite stupid by posting insulting stuff like this...
I used to hate the Beatles, to believe they were overrated. Was I so stupid!!! I totally love them now.
Yes, I was stupid and so are you now. I honestly hope that in time you'll get over it and start to appreciate other kinds of music, without feeling that your love for Queen is threatened by that. And I do hope you get over your Freddie phase and start to appreciate Queen for what they are, namely a band made of four wonderful musicians, not only an amazing singer.
You have no idea how much you miss out by holding on to these beliefs. Take my word for it, I've been in the same situation. Because I now love the Beatles too, a whole new world of music and beauty has opened up for me. Because I can now listen to and enjoy so many bands and music genres, I have the opportunity to discover loads and loads of exciting stuff, older and newer. Queen is not the only band in my world anymore, but it certainly is and will for ever be number one in this world of mine!
Don't be obsessed with Queen. Don't be obsessed with anything. It's bad for your soul. Take the word of a future psychologist for it! The goal of the human being is to evolve in his lifetime, to enrich his soul. If you get stuck only with Freddie, you are not evolving at all, my friend! And you are the only one who loses such a great deal!!!
You may think now I am wrong. That Freddie is the one and only and there is nothing valuable in this world except him. But this is not making him any justice. If he is the only good musician and everything else is crap is not as great as to be the best musician out of a series of other huge musicians. Downplaying everything else is ultimately downplaying Freddie too.
Now about the Beatles: it's not only true that John Lennon was a huge inspiration to Freddie, but Queen has been quite heavily influenced by the Beatles. The Beatles' foray into glam-rock (take the "White Album" or "Abbey Road" for example) has clearly influenced Queen's style. You may not like it, but you can't deny it (of course, you can say this is not true, but I'd love to hear your arguments, if you have any).
Oh and... of course you have every right in the world to not like the Beatles. But you have no right to call people who listen to them stupid. You're the only one who might prove himself quite stupid by posting insulting stuff like this...
don't feed the troll ...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]In their defence, the Beatles never wrote "Let's Turn It On".
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Another thread about Queen versus the Beatles?
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OK. Here's my opinion. Feel free to dispute.
The Beatles inspired Queen. They did inventive things, tried new things with chord structure, etc, etc. Whether their songs are pleasing or no, you can't deny their impact on musicians was far greater than Queen's on other muscians. After all, where would Queen be if the Beatles hadn't inspired them?
As to the pop thing, don't try to tell me that Queen didn't crank out pop songs, too. What do you call "It's a Kind of Magic"? They're stuff could be called boring and light just as much as any of the Beatles stuff.
And yes, I do believe that Paul McCartney and John Lennon were on Freddie's level, and I'm sure if Freddie were here to read this, he'd take it as a compliment.
Learn some music theory, too, before you get off making accusations against Beatles as crap. They're really not crap at all.
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OK. Here's my opinion. Feel free to dispute.
The Beatles inspired Queen. They did inventive things, tried new things with chord structure, etc, etc. Whether their songs are pleasing or no, you can't deny their impact on musicians was far greater than Queen's on other muscians. After all, where would Queen be if the Beatles hadn't inspired them?
As to the pop thing, don't try to tell me that Queen didn't crank out pop songs, too. What do you call "It's a Kind of Magic"? They're stuff could be called boring and light just as much as any of the Beatles stuff.
And yes, I do believe that Paul McCartney and John Lennon were on Freddie's level, and I'm sure if Freddie were here to read this, he'd take it as a compliment.
Learn some music theory, too, before you get off making accusations against Beatles as crap. They're really not crap at all.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Miss Valentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Another thread about Queen versus the Beatles?
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And yes, I do believe that Paul McCartney and John Lennon were on Freddie's level, and I'm sure if Freddie were here to read this, he'd take it as a compliment. [/QUOTE]
Of course he would because Paul McCartney and John Lennon are way above Freddie's level. It's not even a matter of opinion. Music theory and history of music explain it all. Of course, taste is taste: people may like it Freddie more than Bach, for that matter. But Queen fans' personal taste don't influence the way music has evolved over the centuries, of course.
Which doesn't mean Freddie wasn't a great composer and, above all, singer and showman.
As I always say, Freddie is still either hugely overrated or hugely underrated: it'll take some time for people to strike a fair balance, as it happens with all good musicians.
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And yes, I do believe that Paul McCartney and John Lennon were on Freddie's level, and I'm sure if Freddie were here to read this, he'd take it as a compliment. [/QUOTE]
Of course he would because Paul McCartney and John Lennon are way above Freddie's level. It's not even a matter of opinion. Music theory and history of music explain it all. Of course, taste is taste: people may like it Freddie more than Bach, for that matter. But Queen fans' personal taste don't influence the way music has evolved over the centuries, of course.
Which doesn't mean Freddie wasn't a great composer and, above all, singer and showman.
As I always say, Freddie is still either hugely overrated or hugely underrated: it'll take some time for people to strike a fair balance, as it happens with all good musicians.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]im_on_the_wembley_dvd wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Pointless comparison from one of our American cousins Hey We gave you The Beatles & Queen different time different world in music terms.. Freddie would hate to hear this being said, he was inspired by John Lennon and even wrote a song in his memory (go play the Hot Space CD)
next you'll have us comparing New Kids On the Block with The Beach Boys [/QUOTE]
The Beach Boys could play instruments.
next you'll have us comparing New Kids On the Block with The Beach Boys [/QUOTE]
The Beach Boys could play instruments.
BrianMay1975 - excellent post. Except - how were the White Album and Abbey Road "glam rock"?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jake? wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]im_on_the_wembley_dvd wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Pointless comparison from one of our American cousins Hey We gave you The Beatles & Queen different time different world in music terms.. Freddie would hate to hear this being said, he was inspired by John Lennon and even wrote a song in his memory (go play the Hot Space CD)
next you'll have us comparing New Kids On the Block with The Beach Boys [/QUOTE]
The Beach Boys could play instruments. [/QUOTE]
Barely. They hardly played anything on their masterpiece, "Pet Sounds".
next you'll have us comparing New Kids On the Block with The Beach Boys [/QUOTE]
The Beach Boys could play instruments. [/QUOTE]
Barely. They hardly played anything on their masterpiece, "Pet Sounds".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Ray D O'Gaga wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]In their defence, the Beatles never wrote "Let's Turn It On".
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lets turn it on is a great song!
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lets turn it on is a great song!
Queen vs Beatles...mmmm,as a musician i don't like beatles, as a drummer i like ringo starr only because he was the first one to create a definite and sharp bass drum sound. You know, i think Beatles were the boy band of the 60s, the first one, producing like all boy bands strong hits and commercial records, spreading the image of good boys! the same thing as Wham!,Take That, Backstreet Boys etc etc! and when they changed this image and trademark following the '68 youth rebellion they splitted up because there was no substance behind the make up! while Queen primarly formed their trademarks, skills, their substance and then became superstars! they had no make up, they have always been a strong band! so, beatles vs Queen is on you...if you like the "silly", simple music just listen to the Beatles...if you like an everytime little opera in each song, so choose Queen! and if you want me to side, well, i choose Queen, because i'm a musician not a fashion man!
The Beatles are fucking great.
I can't believe you people. You talk bout the fab four, and they're shit... I talk about Led Zeppelin or Jimmy Page, and I'm a faggot because Zep rules.
You should all get your ears checked. Seriously... someone that prefers Led Zeppelin over the fucking Beatles, has a problem. A big one.
Cheers,
Hor
I can't believe you people. You talk bout the fab four, and they're shit... I talk about Led Zeppelin or Jimmy Page, and I'm a faggot because Zep rules.
You should all get your ears checked. Seriously... someone that prefers Led Zeppelin over the fucking Beatles, has a problem. A big one.
Cheers,
Hor
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Piut wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
You know, i think Beatles were the boy band of the 60s, the first one, producing like all boy bands strong hits and commercial records, spreading the image of good boys! the same thing as Wham!,Take That, Backstreet Boys etc etc!
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Except, and this is the real kicker; the Beatles wrote their own music, played their own instruments, had a hand in the production (with some genius help and innovation from the guys in charge...)
And not one of the bands you just mentioned ever did any of that - and if they did, the result was too fucking shitty for anyone to notice.
Beatles = a band with boys.
Beatles ? a boy band.
You stupid cock.
You know, i think Beatles were the boy band of the 60s, the first one, producing like all boy bands strong hits and commercial records, spreading the image of good boys! the same thing as Wham!,Take That, Backstreet Boys etc etc!
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Except, and this is the real kicker; the Beatles wrote their own music, played their own instruments, had a hand in the production (with some genius help and innovation from the guys in charge...)
And not one of the bands you just mentioned ever did any of that - and if they did, the result was too fucking shitty for anyone to notice.
Beatles = a band with boys.
Beatles ? a boy band.
You stupid cock.