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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]Which songs on TCR are worse than these 10 songs from the Flash Gordon Soundtrack ???:[/QUOTE]
All but Still Burnin'. [/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight ... You would rather be locked in a room with a loop of ...
"Why is water coming from her eyes?
It's what they call tears. It's a sign of their weaknessssss"
... than listen to any song from TCR (aside from Still Burning)
Wow. Did the Cult of Fred teach you this?
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Clear wrote - Reality check - You didn't see Queen (unless you travelled back to the 80s)
Strangely enough... my ticket stub says "QUEEN + Paul Rodgers". So with that in mind... I saw QUEEN. Two members are still billing themselves as QUEEN so nobody has the right to say that they aren't. Pretty certain they played a lot of QUEEN songs too.
My favourite singer and entertainer of all time is Freddie Mercury... nobody will ever replace that fact to me... but I still see the remaining members as Queen, and they damn well can call themselves this til they hang up their boots. Do you think they give a toss that some pathetic little nobody has a problem with them calling themselves QUEEN just because Freddie and John aren't in the band anymore? Get a fucking life mate and stop trying to persuade the world that they should agree with your petty little argument. I didn't even want to get involved with this argument... I don't rate the album compared to past Queen records, but I wouldn't take TCR back to the shops just because Freddie's voice isn't computer imposed into any the songs.
Strangely enough... my ticket stub says "QUEEN + Paul Rodgers". So with that in mind... I saw QUEEN. Two members are still billing themselves as QUEEN so nobody has the right to say that they aren't. Pretty certain they played a lot of QUEEN songs too.
My favourite singer and entertainer of all time is Freddie Mercury... nobody will ever replace that fact to me... but I still see the remaining members as Queen, and they damn well can call themselves this til they hang up their boots. Do you think they give a toss that some pathetic little nobody has a problem with them calling themselves QUEEN just because Freddie and John aren't in the band anymore? Get a fucking life mate and stop trying to persuade the world that they should agree with your petty little argument. I didn't even want to get involved with this argument... I don't rate the album compared to past Queen records, but I wouldn't take TCR back to the shops just because Freddie's voice isn't computer imposed into any the songs.
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[b]Panchgani wrote: [/b]
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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]Which songs on TCR are worse than these 10 songs from the Flash Gordon Soundtrack ???:[/QUOTE]
All but Still Burnin'. [/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight ... You would rather be locked in a room with a loop of ...
"Why is water coming from her eyes?
It's what they call tears. It's a sign of their weaknessssss"
... than listen to any song from TCR (aside from Still Burning)
Wow. Did the Cult of Fred teach you this?
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Yes and yes.
[b]Panchgani wrote: [/b]
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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]Which songs on TCR are worse than these 10 songs from the Flash Gordon Soundtrack ???:[/QUOTE]
All but Still Burnin'. [/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight ... You would rather be locked in a room with a loop of ...
"Why is water coming from her eyes?
It's what they call tears. It's a sign of their weaknessssss"
... than listen to any song from TCR (aside from Still Burning)
Wow. Did the Cult of Fred teach you this?
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Yes and yes.
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
I accept that I probably have stacks of naivety in this area, but I don't see how TCR can damage Queen's legacy or reputation - in the eyes of an intelligent person, at least. Queen's legacy is set in stone; those albums, live recordings and songs aren't going anywhere. One can easily choose to ignore everything they did after a certain point; if 'the public' were to suddenly see Queen as a joke just because of some bad collaborations in the years 1992-2008, then big deal.
For what it's worth, I don't think that's happened. Where I live, people don't even know there was a new Queen album.
Get a new promotional team, Brian...
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Yeah, I tend to agree that most people understand this is NOT the same Queen as the classic model whose legacy IS set in stone, that's obvious when you look at the sales figures....but working in the media as I do, it is clear that the notion of new material, collaborations and tours by "Queen" are mostly met with lots of eye rolling and questions of why?....
...and that has a lot to do with people being reluctant to put their hands in their pockets to promote something like TCR. The very concept of it is too big a sell, nevermind the actual product is wanting and below the standard of something purporting to be Queen.
Again, "TCR" is not "Back In Black" without Bon Scott.
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
I accept that I probably have stacks of naivety in this area, but I don't see how TCR can damage Queen's legacy or reputation - in the eyes of an intelligent person, at least. Queen's legacy is set in stone; those albums, live recordings and songs aren't going anywhere. One can easily choose to ignore everything they did after a certain point; if 'the public' were to suddenly see Queen as a joke just because of some bad collaborations in the years 1992-2008, then big deal.
For what it's worth, I don't think that's happened. Where I live, people don't even know there was a new Queen album.
Get a new promotional team, Brian...
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Yeah, I tend to agree that most people understand this is NOT the same Queen as the classic model whose legacy IS set in stone, that's obvious when you look at the sales figures....but working in the media as I do, it is clear that the notion of new material, collaborations and tours by "Queen" are mostly met with lots of eye rolling and questions of why?....
...and that has a lot to do with people being reluctant to put their hands in their pockets to promote something like TCR. The very concept of it is too big a sell, nevermind the actual product is wanting and below the standard of something purporting to be Queen.
Again, "TCR" is not "Back In Black" without Bon Scott.
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[b]Ken8 wrote:[/b]
the notion of new material, collaborations and tours by "Queen" are mostly met with lots of eye rolling and questions of why?....
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Indeed. That's mostly what I've been hearing out of my family and friends, actually.
[b]Ken8 wrote:[/b]
the notion of new material, collaborations and tours by "Queen" are mostly met with lots of eye rolling and questions of why?....
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Indeed. That's mostly what I've been hearing out of my family and friends, actually.
The thing is about this whole "TCR" debacle is the band themselves had the ball in their court to shut up the naysayers and deliver something......well, worthy of their talents.
Had "TCR" been another "Back In Black" (to use that example again) or "5150" etc it may have stood a chance of capturing peoples' attention. I say "may" because I still do believe the idea of Queen without you know who is a heck of a sell to the general public, no matter how good the new music is.
Now the thing for Queen+Rodgers is that the relative failure of "TCR" in the eyes of the public only makes the shadow of their former glories look even more insurmountable.
Before you know it you're attempting to tour the U.S. behind a dud record and the best slot you can get is opening for some corporate, MOR, AOR band.
It can't be good for the brand.
Had "TCR" been another "Back In Black" (to use that example again) or "5150" etc it may have stood a chance of capturing peoples' attention. I say "may" because I still do believe the idea of Queen without you know who is a heck of a sell to the general public, no matter how good the new music is.
Now the thing for Queen+Rodgers is that the relative failure of "TCR" in the eyes of the public only makes the shadow of their former glories look even more insurmountable.
Before you know it you're attempting to tour the U.S. behind a dud record and the best slot you can get is opening for some corporate, MOR, AOR band.
It can't be good for the brand.