April wrote: the true fans support them.
I'm sorry, but that's just not true.
It's perfectly acceptable and understandable to be a "true" fan of Queen, and at the same time dislike the solo works of Brian and Roger. It's even more understandable when the fans are merely unsupportive of their calculating name choice.
IN YOUR OPINION everybody should of course agree with you, but unfortunately for you that just isn't how the world works.
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April wrote:
...and the true fans support them.
I, too, fail to agree with your statement. I've been supporting Queen for 34 years. I consider myself a true fan. I, also have most of the band's solo albums and I have Bad Company, as well. However, I have chosen to not listen to ROTC and TCR. It's a personal choice. Just as it is the personal choice of others to embrace Q+PR.
Maybe I would feel differently had I never been to a Queen concert or enjoyed the excitement of a new album. I saw them in concert in 1980 and I have the albums. So even if we don't rush out to buy TCR, we are still true fans. We've been supporting the band for longer than many of you have been alive.
...and the true fans support them.
I, too, fail to agree with your statement. I've been supporting Queen for 34 years. I consider myself a true fan. I, also have most of the band's solo albums and I have Bad Company, as well. However, I have chosen to not listen to ROTC and TCR. It's a personal choice. Just as it is the personal choice of others to embrace Q+PR.
Maybe I would feel differently had I never been to a Queen concert or enjoyed the excitement of a new album. I saw them in concert in 1980 and I have the albums. So even if we don't rush out to buy TCR, we are still true fans. We've been supporting the band for longer than many of you have been alive.
Tero wrote:
April wrote: the true fans support them. I'm sorry, but that's just not true. It's perfectly acceptable and understandable to be a "true" fan of Queen, and at the same time dislike the solo works of Brian and Roger. It's even more understandable when the fans are merely unsupportive of their calculating name choice. IN YOUR OPINION everybody should of course agree with you, but unfortunately for you that just isn't how the world works.
No, Tero, I by the way understand you pretty well. I can`t say I like May`s or Taylor`s solo works, I am not even interested in them. But i totally support the two guys when they are together. For me they are already Queen, since Freddie is dead. If Freddie hadnt been dead then it would have been another case. You know, they wouldn`t listen to you if you asked them to change the name or if you asked them to look for somebody else as a vocalist, they have already made their choice. All is said and done. now you only can determine whether you like the band or not. I like them, the new album and the way Paul sings. Their album is much better than a lot of other stuff that is being released today, much better than a lot of other albums by quite famous groups. I even can`t think of any album of late that could be better than Cosmos Rocks.
Can you, please, name one.
April wrote: the true fans support them. I'm sorry, but that's just not true. It's perfectly acceptable and understandable to be a "true" fan of Queen, and at the same time dislike the solo works of Brian and Roger. It's even more understandable when the fans are merely unsupportive of their calculating name choice. IN YOUR OPINION everybody should of course agree with you, but unfortunately for you that just isn't how the world works.
No, Tero, I by the way understand you pretty well. I can`t say I like May`s or Taylor`s solo works, I am not even interested in them. But i totally support the two guys when they are together. For me they are already Queen, since Freddie is dead. If Freddie hadnt been dead then it would have been another case. You know, they wouldn`t listen to you if you asked them to change the name or if you asked them to look for somebody else as a vocalist, they have already made their choice. All is said and done. now you only can determine whether you like the band or not. I like them, the new album and the way Paul sings. Their album is much better than a lot of other stuff that is being released today, much better than a lot of other albums by quite famous groups. I even can`t think of any album of late that could be better than Cosmos Rocks.
Can you, please, name one.
April wrote: i totally
support the two guys when they are together.
Yes, YOU support them, while others might not. That doesn't make the others any less fans, and you are only undemining your own credibility with such statements.
April wrote: Their album is much better than a lot of other stuff that is being released today, much better than a lot of other albums by quite famous groups. I even can`t think of any album of late that could be better than Cosmos Rocks. Can you, please, name one.
I don't listen to new music that much. The latest dozen albums I bought were compilations of classic soul and funk artists, with the latest Coldplay and R.E.M. albums thrown in for good measure. All of them were better than the Cosmos Rocks.
But THAT isn't the point.
The point is that I don't HAVE to like an album by an entirely different group to be a Queen fan, just like you don't have to like the latest R.E.M. album to be a Queen fan!
Yes, YOU support them, while others might not. That doesn't make the others any less fans, and you are only undemining your own credibility with such statements.
April wrote: Their album is much better than a lot of other stuff that is being released today, much better than a lot of other albums by quite famous groups. I even can`t think of any album of late that could be better than Cosmos Rocks. Can you, please, name one.
I don't listen to new music that much. The latest dozen albums I bought were compilations of classic soul and funk artists, with the latest Coldplay and R.E.M. albums thrown in for good measure. All of them were better than the Cosmos Rocks.
But THAT isn't the point.
The point is that I don't HAVE to like an album by an entirely different group to be a Queen fan, just like you don't have to like the latest R.E.M. album to be a Queen fan!
the term "fan" comes from "fanatical". I think this explains it all.
Some more:
Think of the musical style/genre you hate the most, hate as in "I can't listen to this shit at all" (even when you're forced to). It can be anything: classical, punk, funk, emo, disco, whatever. If Queen (in any of its incarnations and shapes) made a record entirely done in that style, would you still LIKE it, only based on the style and songs, disregarding the fact it was done by your favourite band? I didn't say "I respect their choice to follow that style", but LIKE, as in "I listen to it everytime I can because it's fantastic". Some people and/or fans won't follow that way. Ok, one can always say "oh they opened my mind and ears to a style I used to hate blah blah blah"... Hot Space isn't a bad album because it's crappy pop-synth-funk-80's disco, but because it's crappy pop-synth-funk-80's disco, poorly done.
Think of the musical style/genre you hate the most, hate as in "I can't listen to this shit at all" (even when you're forced to). It can be anything: classical, punk, funk, emo, disco, whatever. If Queen (in any of its incarnations and shapes) made a record entirely done in that style, would you still LIKE it, only based on the style and songs, disregarding the fact it was done by your favourite band? I didn't say "I respect their choice to follow that style", but LIKE, as in "I listen to it everytime I can because it's fantastic". Some people and/or fans won't follow that way. Ok, one can always say "oh they opened my mind and ears to a style I used to hate blah blah blah"... Hot Space isn't a bad album because it's crappy pop-synth-funk-80's disco, but because it's crappy pop-synth-funk-80's disco, poorly done.
April wrote:And it won`t change anything whether you say your underage daughter,
who repeats what her mother says, is offended by Paul or not. In fact
nobody is interested in the opinion of your daughter.
Obviously coming from someone who has no "children"....or just doesn't like them in general.
I value my eight year old daughters opinion over anything you have to respond to lady!!! She's quite capable of her own opinion!
Secondly when your long and gone(the sooner the better) My daughter will still be keeping "Queen" Alive!!
And the answer to your question...drum roll please...
April wrote: I even can`t think of any album of late that could be better than Cosmos Rocks.
Can you, please, name one.
by Paul Cashmere - September 29 2008
The new Queen + Paul Rodgers album `The Cosmos Rocks` has failed miserably to win fans in the Australian market.
After a very ordinary debut at number 49 last week, `The Cosmos Rocks` album dropped out of the Top 100 in week 2.
After two full weeks on sale in Australia, `The Cosmos Rocks` moved just 988 copies.
By comparison, the two decade old Queen’s ‘Greatest Hits’ album sold 1158 units just this week which places it number 49
Hmmmmm.... I think this pretty much sums it up!!.. don't let the door hit your ass on the way out...
Obviously coming from someone who has no "children"....or just doesn't like them in general.
I value my eight year old daughters opinion over anything you have to respond to lady!!! She's quite capable of her own opinion!
Secondly when your long and gone(the sooner the better) My daughter will still be keeping "Queen" Alive!!
And the answer to your question...drum roll please...
April wrote: I even can`t think of any album of late that could be better than Cosmos Rocks.
Can you, please, name one.
by Paul Cashmere - September 29 2008
The new Queen + Paul Rodgers album `The Cosmos Rocks` has failed miserably to win fans in the Australian market.
After a very ordinary debut at number 49 last week, `The Cosmos Rocks` album dropped out of the Top 100 in week 2.
After two full weeks on sale in Australia, `The Cosmos Rocks` moved just 988 copies.
By comparison, the two decade old Queen’s ‘Greatest Hits’ album sold 1158 units just this week which places it number 49
Hmmmmm.... I think this pretty much sums it up!!.. don't let the door hit your ass on the way out...
I've been a Queen fan since the 70s. I do miss Freddie. He had an amazing voice, & he wrote some amazing songs, but what were Brian & Roger supposed to do now that he's gone? I do like this new album. I think that after the disappointment of "Hot Space", ( & boy did I get my chops busted from my friends when they heard it!) the band, particularly Freddie were more careful with what they released.
With the crap that's on the radio nowadays, I am so happy that Queen are back in some kind of form. I do wish that John Deacon returns. The only worry I do have with Paul Rodgers, is his track record. He's belonged to four different bands already. He seems to grow tired of the bands that he's been in. As for them using the name ,"Queen", That's the only name that both Brian & Roger, (& hopefully John someday),will be recognized with.
Don't get me wrong, I had to get used to this new album at first. Then again, most of Queen's albums took getting used to. That's what I always loved about them. I just hope they tour the United States again. I also feel that it was smart move not trying to find someone who would sound like Freddie. He is irreplaceable. Instead, they picked someone who sings totally different. Someone who has a history in rock music, & someone who they get along with. Hopefully, this will last.
With the crap that's on the radio nowadays, I am so happy that Queen are back in some kind of form. I do wish that John Deacon returns. The only worry I do have with Paul Rodgers, is his track record. He's belonged to four different bands already. He seems to grow tired of the bands that he's been in. As for them using the name ,"Queen", That's the only name that both Brian & Roger, (& hopefully John someday),will be recognized with.
Don't get me wrong, I had to get used to this new album at first. Then again, most of Queen's albums took getting used to. That's what I always loved about them. I just hope they tour the United States again. I also feel that it was smart move not trying to find someone who would sound like Freddie. He is irreplaceable. Instead, they picked someone who sings totally different. Someone who has a history in rock music, & someone who they get along with. Hopefully, this will last.
It appears Queen fans are still hurting over the loss of Freddie so much that they aren't willing to give Brian, Roger, And Paul a chance. That's sad because they are missing out on some really good music. Even worse, they have embraced their pain so much that they are incapable of moving on with their lives and are quick to insult the surviving members and anyone else who tries. To all my fellow Queen fans, I hope you are all able to move on one day. Maybe then you will begin to heal. Long live Queen...
So that's all there is to not liking the album? You honestly think everybody in the right would should agree with you?
It's not because it just isn't a good album?
It's not because it just isn't a good album?
ANYONE WHO 'FORGETS' TO MENTION JOHN DEACON READ THIS:
For everyone that just throws in a 'John Deacon' for good measure don't forget you're talking about the most criminally underrated and distinctive rock bassist of the last 40 years. His playing is every bit as distinctive as Brian's guitar symphonies, Rogers snare/hi-hat hits and Freddie's vocals. Just listen to his chord runs on 'My best friend' or his trademark upper register bass on 'love brigade'. His traditional walking bass on 'crazy little thing called love' or his rhythmically perfect double stopping on 'bring back leroy brown' and any of the funk influenced numbers. As a bass player who knows his Wooten from his Pastorius I can honestly say there is no better way to learn how to construct a perfect rock bass line than listening to Johns playing. And believe me the songs would sound radically different with a lesser bass player. I'm not even gonna bring up the songs he wrote. GRRR Pay the man some respect people!!
For everyone that just throws in a 'John Deacon' for good measure don't forget you're talking about the most criminally underrated and distinctive rock bassist of the last 40 years. His playing is every bit as distinctive as Brian's guitar symphonies, Rogers snare/hi-hat hits and Freddie's vocals. Just listen to his chord runs on 'My best friend' or his trademark upper register bass on 'love brigade'. His traditional walking bass on 'crazy little thing called love' or his rhythmically perfect double stopping on 'bring back leroy brown' and any of the funk influenced numbers. As a bass player who knows his Wooten from his Pastorius I can honestly say there is no better way to learn how to construct a perfect rock bass line than listening to Johns playing. And believe me the songs would sound radically different with a lesser bass player. I'm not even gonna bring up the songs he wrote. GRRR Pay the man some respect people!!
You must be joking right? Yes, Freddie was not the whole band, but John, Brian, Roger and Fred together, WERE Queen, and still ARE Queen as far as I am concerned.. This rip off of queen with paul is awful.. I did listened to bad company as a teen in the 70s, but Queen was my band, and John, Roger, Brian and Fred were Queen. Period.I agree with John and I am glad he retired, and yes i would love to see him play again, but he is a leo and when leos make up their minds its pretty damn hard to change their minds. Maybe many of you were not born when Queen were at their height of performing, but growing up as a teen in the 70s, I was privileged to see them live many many times. Maybe thats why I am so adamant about the original foursome, because if you ever saw them live once, you were hooked and never went back again. Sorry, They played here where i live a few years ago when they first went on tour with paul,and if someone gave me tickets to a show, I would not go. we actually have a tribute band that is quite well known in this area and to tell the truth, i have seen them several times and they are excellent. I would rather go see them. Thats how i feel about the whole thing.
John,
Brian, Roger and Fred together, WERE Queen, and still ARE Queen as
far as I am concerned.. This rip off of queen with paul is awful..
Well said Veila!!! ;)
Well said Veila!!! ;)
I just have to say, that the "new album" is better than I feared.[br][br]A couple of highlights actually... But I have to say I really miss Freddie.[br][br]My first thoughts were that I thought Paul Rodgers did too much out of his voice. [br]But he's slowly growing on me, though, ,, But I wish Freddie was alive! (of course,,,)[br][br]The song Warboys is pretty okay, I think. I've read Paul R. wrote it... I thought it was a typical R Taylor song.