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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
I'd suggest that trend would've been seen in other territories.
There was not much promotion for "TCR" downunder either to be fair. But there is no promotion for "Greatest Hits" either......
I guess the vast majority of the record buying public choose to worship at the "Church Of Freddie" instead of joining some small fanatical cult......
...drink the kool-aid. Please.
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Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
Whose issue is it clearly then?
Simple: EMI, Parlophone, Hollywood Records and their worldwide subsidies.
Clearly they didn't want to flood the market with good comeback albums *rolls eyes*
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
Whose issue is it clearly then?
Simple: EMI, Parlophone, Hollywood Records and their worldwide subsidies.
Clearly they didn't want to flood the market with good comeback albums *rolls eyes*
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Again, no. They didn't want to waste their money promoting bad ones.
[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
Whose issue is it clearly then?
Simple: EMI, Parlophone, Hollywood Records and their worldwide subsidies.
Clearly they didn't want to flood the market with good comeback albums *rolls eyes*
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Again, no. They didn't want to waste their money promoting bad ones.
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
And judging by your throwaway comments about me and other Queen/QPR fans being bitter and all, I think it only shows who the bitter one here really is (Certainly not me)
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LOL!!
What do I have to be bitter about?
I doubted the wisdom of the collaboration from the start, and everything since has confirmed my fears. Sadly.
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What fears of mine that are coming true in this case is that you pariahs are treating this as if it were the end of the world. I think the Large Hadron Collider was more of a threat than QPR would ever be :-P
We lived through that, didn't we?
Anyways, there IS more to life than trolling the boards with the same old shit, ya know.
Why can't you fellows just let us be?
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
And judging by your throwaway comments about me and other Queen/QPR fans being bitter and all, I think it only shows who the bitter one here really is (Certainly not me)
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LOL!!
What do I have to be bitter about?
I doubted the wisdom of the collaboration from the start, and everything since has confirmed my fears. Sadly.
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What fears of mine that are coming true in this case is that you pariahs are treating this as if it were the end of the world. I think the Large Hadron Collider was more of a threat than QPR would ever be :-P
We lived through that, didn't we?
Anyways, there IS more to life than trolling the boards with the same old shit, ya know.
Why can't you fellows just let us be?
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
Whose issue is it clearly then?
Simple: EMI, Parlophone, Hollywood Records and their worldwide subsidies.
Clearly they didn't want to flood the market with good comeback albums *rolls eyes*
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Again, no. They didn't want to waste their money promoting bad ones.
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I'm not even going to compliment that with a reply to your liking.
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
Whose issue is it clearly then?
Simple: EMI, Parlophone, Hollywood Records and their worldwide subsidies.
Clearly they didn't want to flood the market with good comeback albums *rolls eyes*
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Again, no. They didn't want to waste their money promoting bad ones.
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I'm not even going to compliment that with a reply to your liking.
Because you can't.
Oh I could. But being a close-minded 13-year-old troll, there's no point arguing with you.
Now keep on sipping that Kool-Aid. Ohhhhhhh yeah
Now keep on sipping that Kool-Aid. Ohhhhhhh yeah
You are ridiculous. TCR was a failure. Fact.
There's only so many ways you can pretend otherwise
There's only so many ways you can pretend otherwise
Clearly, you're an immature little bitch. I've said all I could, but you clearly do not want to listen to my side of arguments, and instead behave like a toddler.
This conversation ends now.
This conversation ends now.
lol. And so exits inu-liger with her tail between her legs after another session of self delusion and denial.
"TCR" tanked. Fact.
"TCR" tanked. Fact.
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
lol. And so exits inu-liger with her tail between her legs after another session of self delusion and denial.
"TCR" tanked. Fact.
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That's your opinion, you bitter, selfish jerk.
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
lol. And so exits inu-liger with her tail between her legs after another session of self delusion and denial.
"TCR" tanked. Fact.
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That's your opinion, you bitter, selfish jerk.
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
Move on. Get a life. I don't care what your church's doctrinal bible says, Freddie's ressurection will never happen, KAPEESH?
Losers.
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I can't see what you intend to achieve on here by being negative about the original Queen.
You make being a fan of Freddie Mercury sound like a bad thing, on a QUEEN FORUM. Amazing. [/QUOTE]
Well you make being a fan of Paul Rodgers sound like a bad thing.
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For one thing, this is not a Paul Rodgers Fan Forum. If he wasn't performing with Queen, we wouldn't be discussing him at any length.
But it shows how empty you two are as I've stated numerous times, I am a big fan of Rodgers, and the two remaining members of Queen.
The fact remains that "TCR" was underwhelming and a failure, and the very concept of Q+PR was fraught with danger from the start.
It's understandable where your bitterness comes from. You never saw the real Queen, were never around in their heyday and have nothing to compare the "TCR" era to the real thing.
You're more accepting of a poor piece of work like "TCR" not because you're young, but when it comes to new Queen music, it's all you have short of taking a trip in the TARDIS.
You may prefer "TCR" to a lot of the real Queen's back catalogue. Who cares, you're in a very small minority at the end of the day. "Hot Space" may not've been Queen's crowning glory, but a lot more people liked it than "TCR"
I wonder why?
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You are so full of it, aren't you?
TCR isn't a poor album, like you say. This is only the debut of Queen+Paul Rodgers.
This album could take more than a few listens to like it (kinda like Queen II)
You must think of yourself as the only one who knows what he's talking about, but you just can't live with other people's opinions because it makes you feel as if you are wrong. I'm not saying you are wrong for hating TCR, but you are wrong for saying it's a poor album as if it was a fact.
I prefer most of Queen's catalouge, because:
1. I prefer Freddie over Paul
2. Q+PR doesn't have a big catalouge to choose from
To tell you the truth, I'm glad that Brian and Roger have done this instead of laying around watching TV.
Try to be more open to other people's opinions and state your opinions in a nicer manner. It would be appreciated.
[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
Move on. Get a life. I don't care what your church's doctrinal bible says, Freddie's ressurection will never happen, KAPEESH?
Losers.
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I can't see what you intend to achieve on here by being negative about the original Queen.
You make being a fan of Freddie Mercury sound like a bad thing, on a QUEEN FORUM. Amazing. [/QUOTE]
Well you make being a fan of Paul Rodgers sound like a bad thing.
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For one thing, this is not a Paul Rodgers Fan Forum. If he wasn't performing with Queen, we wouldn't be discussing him at any length.
But it shows how empty you two are as I've stated numerous times, I am a big fan of Rodgers, and the two remaining members of Queen.
The fact remains that "TCR" was underwhelming and a failure, and the very concept of Q+PR was fraught with danger from the start.
It's understandable where your bitterness comes from. You never saw the real Queen, were never around in their heyday and have nothing to compare the "TCR" era to the real thing.
You're more accepting of a poor piece of work like "TCR" not because you're young, but when it comes to new Queen music, it's all you have short of taking a trip in the TARDIS.
You may prefer "TCR" to a lot of the real Queen's back catalogue. Who cares, you're in a very small minority at the end of the day. "Hot Space" may not've been Queen's crowning glory, but a lot more people liked it than "TCR"
I wonder why?
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You are so full of it, aren't you?
TCR isn't a poor album, like you say. This is only the debut of Queen+Paul Rodgers.
This album could take more than a few listens to like it (kinda like Queen II)
You must think of yourself as the only one who knows what he's talking about, but you just can't live with other people's opinions because it makes you feel as if you are wrong. I'm not saying you are wrong for hating TCR, but you are wrong for saying it's a poor album as if it was a fact.
I prefer most of Queen's catalouge, because:
1. I prefer Freddie over Paul
2. Q+PR doesn't have a big catalouge to choose from
To tell you the truth, I'm glad that Brian and Roger have done this instead of laying around watching TV.
Try to be more open to other people's opinions and state your opinions in a nicer manner. It would be appreciated.
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
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Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
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That's very true. But it won't make TCR a good album, would it?
[QUOTE]inu-liger wrote: How convenient is it
then that you guys never pay attention to the positive aspects behind
the collaboration, but focus on the negative in order to push fans away
from the current Queen projects and essentially keep them to only
buying the old Greatest Hits releases over and over then?
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I think you mean that us Freddie-believers [sic] are making some kind of a boycott of QPR in favour of ... the singles collection, for example? We (some at least) aren't encouraging anyone at all to buy the singles collection - not because of the songs, but because of the commercial aspects of it.
I feel sad when someone says that we are just "trying to destroy dreams" or something with our "negativity". I just hope that when this project is over that Brian or Roger don't say that they abandoned it because of the negativity they felt at QZ forums. I would be really sad. [sarcasm mode off]
[QUOTE]For
one, you trolls never even quote sources behind your fantasy-laden wet
dream rumours along the lines of "This is it. It's over", "QPR are
splitting up" etc etc.
You go spreading your doctrinal bullshit
like it's reality. And Brian clearly said on his Soapbox that they are
NOT splitting up. Yet you guys once again clearly ignore that, and try
to whack around the bush and twist *his* words around to your advantage
in any case.[/QUOTE]
Time will tell.
[QUOTE]This is clearly showing how reliable you guys are as "Queen" fans, classic or not.[/QUOTE]
Do we have to have a certificate of reliability issued by the fan club or QPL? What is a "reliable" fan to you?
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And this is also moreso illustrating the great divide that's pushing a
lot more of the sensible people away from troll-infested boards like
this.[/QUOTE]
As I've said in some other thread, it would be nice and easier to have a forum dedicated just to QPR - I wouldn't bother to be there. And a new site to promote it (here we go again). They are a new band, aren't they? Now I'm confused again.
Have you ever thought that some of these people that are "leaving" might be doing that due to both reasons, like because they are seeing people liking and worshipping QPR as it was the 8th wonder and they don't (and can't, unless they like to be called names) agree and prefer to leave? The whole worshipping of a really bad concept/idea/project (the album mostly than the tour and concerts, though) is what annoys me.
[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b]
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Like I said, if the album HAD been promoted (which would have been at the expense of the companies who clearly would rather promote shit tween pop artists than real bands) it would more than certainly have done a lot better. This is not solely a US issue. This is not solely an Aussie issue. This is not solely a UK issue.
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That's very true. But it won't make TCR a good album, would it?
[QUOTE]inu-liger wrote: How convenient is it
then that you guys never pay attention to the positive aspects behind
the collaboration, but focus on the negative in order to push fans away
from the current Queen projects and essentially keep them to only
buying the old Greatest Hits releases over and over then?
[/QUOTE]
I think you mean that us Freddie-believers [sic] are making some kind of a boycott of QPR in favour of ... the singles collection, for example? We (some at least) aren't encouraging anyone at all to buy the singles collection - not because of the songs, but because of the commercial aspects of it.
I feel sad when someone says that we are just "trying to destroy dreams" or something with our "negativity". I just hope that when this project is over that Brian or Roger don't say that they abandoned it because of the negativity they felt at QZ forums. I would be really sad. [sarcasm mode off]
[QUOTE]For
one, you trolls never even quote sources behind your fantasy-laden wet
dream rumours along the lines of "This is it. It's over", "QPR are
splitting up" etc etc.
You go spreading your doctrinal bullshit
like it's reality. And Brian clearly said on his Soapbox that they are
NOT splitting up. Yet you guys once again clearly ignore that, and try
to whack around the bush and twist *his* words around to your advantage
in any case.[/QUOTE]
Time will tell.
[QUOTE]This is clearly showing how reliable you guys are as "Queen" fans, classic or not.[/QUOTE]
Do we have to have a certificate of reliability issued by the fan club or QPL? What is a "reliable" fan to you?
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And this is also moreso illustrating the great divide that's pushing a
lot more of the sensible people away from troll-infested boards like
this.[/QUOTE]
As I've said in some other thread, it would be nice and easier to have a forum dedicated just to QPR - I wouldn't bother to be there. And a new site to promote it (here we go again). They are a new band, aren't they? Now I'm confused again.
Have you ever thought that some of these people that are "leaving" might be doing that due to both reasons, like because they are seeing people liking and worshipping QPR as it was the 8th wonder and they don't (and can't, unless they like to be called names) agree and prefer to leave? The whole worshipping of a really bad concept/idea/project (the album mostly than the tour and concerts, though) is what annoys me.
Well, meanwhile it certainly isn't Queen, it's as much of Queen as we can possibly have now... and that's not little to say.
Maybe they should have called themselves something else, but whatever, it's not something that's gonna make me lose any sleep.
As far as I'm concerned, as long as Brian and Roger are enjoying themselves, great for them (and I saw them here in Chile in November, and they were certainly having fun). They were both obviously a very important part of Queen, and they seem like really nice and sweet people. I like them.
And great for us, who have had the chance of seeing them live performing Queen songs and some new ones, which seemed good to me.
I am a very new fan (not more than three months), and never had the chance to see Queen live, nor was around for most of their career, for that matter. So this is how much of them as I will ever see live.
Now, having said that, Freddie is my favourite member of the band (musically speaking), without a doubt. And I love him. And it's clearly not at all the same without him.
Like someone else here said, one can only imagine what it would have been to see Queen with him live (well, that and watch videos of them live, of course...).
A pair of other things:
- Why is it that some people have to get so rude when discussing these things?. I understand that one may feel very strongly about them, but there's no need for name calling and personal insults. It doesn't help any arguments at all.
- Why that dissing of young people?. Why is it somehow an insult if someone is 13, or whatever?. That doesn't make their opinions any less valuable. It's just a prejudiced attitude. And a fallacy, for that matter.
- Brian and Roger were not just watching TV before doing this. They have been having a career of their own.
Well, cheers to everyone.
Maybe they should have called themselves something else, but whatever, it's not something that's gonna make me lose any sleep.
As far as I'm concerned, as long as Brian and Roger are enjoying themselves, great for them (and I saw them here in Chile in November, and they were certainly having fun). They were both obviously a very important part of Queen, and they seem like really nice and sweet people. I like them.
And great for us, who have had the chance of seeing them live performing Queen songs and some new ones, which seemed good to me.
I am a very new fan (not more than three months), and never had the chance to see Queen live, nor was around for most of their career, for that matter. So this is how much of them as I will ever see live.
Now, having said that, Freddie is my favourite member of the band (musically speaking), without a doubt. And I love him. And it's clearly not at all the same without him.
Like someone else here said, one can only imagine what it would have been to see Queen with him live (well, that and watch videos of them live, of course...).
A pair of other things:
- Why is it that some people have to get so rude when discussing these things?. I understand that one may feel very strongly about them, but there's no need for name calling and personal insults. It doesn't help any arguments at all.
- Why that dissing of young people?. Why is it somehow an insult if someone is 13, or whatever?. That doesn't make their opinions any less valuable. It's just a prejudiced attitude. And a fallacy, for that matter.
- Brian and Roger were not just watching TV before doing this. They have been having a career of their own.
Well, cheers to everyone.
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
lol. And so exits inu-liger with her tail between her legs after another session of self delusion and denial.
"TCR" tanked. Fact.
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That's your opinion, you bitter, selfish jerk.
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No, as you can see, that was a fact too.
[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
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[b]Ken8 wrote: [/b]
lol. And so exits inu-liger with her tail between her legs after another session of self delusion and denial.
"TCR" tanked. Fact.
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That's your opinion, you bitter, selfish jerk.
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No, as you can see, that was a fact too.