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[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]
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Did anybody see Obama on the Daily Show last night? The best part was this:
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Are you concerned in some respects, you know, and I don't even know how to bring this up. Obviously your mother is from Kansas. She's a white woman. Your father, African. Are you concerned that you may go into the voting booth and....
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I won't know what to do.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Your white half will all of a sudden decide, "I can't do this."
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] That's a problem.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] What is it?
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I said it's a problem.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Are you concerned in some respects, you know, and I don't even know how to bring this up. Obviously your mother is from Kansas. She's a white woman. Your father, African. Are you concerned that you may go into the voting booth and....
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I won't know what to do.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Your white half will all of a sudden decide, "I can't do this."
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] That's a problem.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] What is it?
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I said it's a problem.
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[b]PieterMC wrote: [/b]
Did anybody see Obama on the Daily Show last night? The best part was this:
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Are you concerned in some respects, you know, and I don't even know how to bring this up. Obviously your mother is from Kansas. She's a white woman. Your father, African. Are you concerned that you may go into the voting booth and....
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I won't know what to do.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Your white half will all of a sudden decide, "I can't do this."
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] That's a problem.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] What is it?
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I said it's a problem.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chGhy5ODRw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chGhy5ODRw[/url] @ 1:30
[b]PieterMC wrote: [/b]
Did anybody see Obama on the Daily Show last night? The best part was this:
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Are you concerned in some respects, you know, and I don't even know how to bring this up. Obviously your mother is from Kansas. She's a white woman. Your father, African. Are you concerned that you may go into the voting booth and....
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I won't know what to do.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] Your white half will all of a sudden decide, "I can't do this."
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] That's a problem.
[i][b]Jon Stewart:[/b][/i] What is it?
[i][b]Barack Obama:[/b][/i] I said it's a problem.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chGhy5ODRw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chGhy5ODRw[/url] @ 1:30
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
I think the worst thing about these elections, and it's been growing lately, is the Rock The Vote campaign and all that other BS. This is NOT the most important election ever, it's just the latest. Every four years its the Most Important Election, and then some guy with green hair and a lip ring puts his guitar down for a minute and tries to tell me the way things are and why my vote counts. Shut up and play your frickin guitar, ya boob. Alec Baldwin (or insert other celeb) telling me that ______ is going to get the economy back and things will be better. Oh yeah, they're hurting, even after their six-figure "appearance fee" check.
I think I'm a little more in touch with reality than a 20 year drop-out who wrote a hit song or someone who doesn't even know the price of a gallon of milk.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU. glad im not the only one. in fact, it makes me not to want to vote more.
those piss me off so much. guilt-tripping people to vote is no better than terrosism on its own!!!!
or something like that XD
[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
I think the worst thing about these elections, and it's been growing lately, is the Rock The Vote campaign and all that other BS. This is NOT the most important election ever, it's just the latest. Every four years its the Most Important Election, and then some guy with green hair and a lip ring puts his guitar down for a minute and tries to tell me the way things are and why my vote counts. Shut up and play your frickin guitar, ya boob. Alec Baldwin (or insert other celeb) telling me that ______ is going to get the economy back and things will be better. Oh yeah, they're hurting, even after their six-figure "appearance fee" check.
I think I'm a little more in touch with reality than a 20 year drop-out who wrote a hit song or someone who doesn't even know the price of a gallon of milk.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU. glad im not the only one. in fact, it makes me not to want to vote more.
those piss me off so much. guilt-tripping people to vote is no better than terrosism on its own!!!!
or something like that XD
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[b]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/b]
An Obama presidency would be particularly good for American foreign affairs, as McCain a) is as undiplomatic as a berserker b) is obsessed with old enmities (Russia is by definition wrong, even if Georgia attacks them; Terrorists (defined as all those who are Asian and are not subservient to the US) should be killed, not negotiated with; the Vietnam war could've been won, and I wouldn't put it past him to try and prove it). As for his plans, I think Obama has the more effective way of dealing with current issues like healthcare and education. However, the only way the democrats will be able to work them all to a useful extent is if they score a landslide victory in House and Senate as well as winning the presidency, because the republicans would spend at least the first year blocking everything the democrats tried out of sheer spite.
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and about the asian thing....if i understood you right, theres some aprehension in bringing yet another person who wants to use their power on an old grudge that doesnt matter anymore?
[b]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/b]
An Obama presidency would be particularly good for American foreign affairs, as McCain a) is as undiplomatic as a berserker b) is obsessed with old enmities (Russia is by definition wrong, even if Georgia attacks them; Terrorists (defined as all those who are Asian and are not subservient to the US) should be killed, not negotiated with; the Vietnam war could've been won, and I wouldn't put it past him to try and prove it). As for his plans, I think Obama has the more effective way of dealing with current issues like healthcare and education. However, the only way the democrats will be able to work them all to a useful extent is if they score a landslide victory in House and Senate as well as winning the presidency, because the republicans would spend at least the first year blocking everything the democrats tried out of sheer spite.
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and about the asian thing....if i understood you right, theres some aprehension in bringing yet another person who wants to use their power on an old grudge that doesnt matter anymore?
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[b]Erin wrote: [/b]
[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]
^ a GALLON of milk? :-p
i know you guys do it bigger in Texas but come on you can get milk in 'pints' ;-]
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What's so strange about buying a gallon of milk? I guess you Brits couldn't fit a whole gallon in your tiny refrigerators. [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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youve got no idea how small our fridges are,well mine anyway.i barely have enough room for a pint of milk[img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img] [/QUOTE] i dont know whats happened here,i did make a reply but its disappeared quicker than Hillary Clinton..oh well :-p
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youve got no idea how small our fridges are,well mine anyway.i barely have enough room for a pint of milk[img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img] [/QUOTE] i dont know whats happened here,i did make a reply but its disappeared quicker than Hillary Clinton..oh well :-p
Ugh, I'm irritated by these African American kids who come to my school with t-shirts on that say "YES WE CAN" and "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" and "PRO-BAMA" (Yes, there was a prick who made a shirt that said that and wore it to school with great pride) but if asked why they like/support Obama, they give this answer:
"[i]He's going to be the [b]first [/b]black president![/i]"
Oh, really? Last time I checked Barack Obama was only half-black.
I don't really support Republicans or Democrats, but I find myself wanting McCain to win just because (some of) Obama's supporters are so obnoxious. I know that's shallow, but it's honestly how I see it. My Mum's "friend" recently sent out to ALL of her e-mail contacts this horribly worded, three paragraph atrocity full of spelling errors and grammatical no-no's about how she had had an epiphany and realised how much she wanted Obama to win, and went on and on about how he was the hope and future of America and he'd bring change and all this bullshit. Come on. That's just shoving your beliefs down someone's throat at its finest. She mentioned how her husband, for the first time, wanted to vote because this election and the prospect of Obama's presidency excited him so. Tell us, do we fucking care about your husband voting for the first time?
No, we do not. If anything, her husband is an idiot because he should have voted in all the other elections anyway--If everyone in America waited until the election that had a candidate that made them start shitting their pants and bouncing up and down in their chairs shouting "I LOOOOVE THIS CANDIDATE" then that would just be ridiculous and hardly anyone would vote.
Nevertheless I'd like for the Wednesday of next week to come--It's awfully interesting, I'd like to see who wins. Shame that it was at the same time as the World Series; everyone seems preoccupied with the election instead. XD
"[i]He's going to be the [b]first [/b]black president![/i]"
Oh, really? Last time I checked Barack Obama was only half-black.
I don't really support Republicans or Democrats, but I find myself wanting McCain to win just because (some of) Obama's supporters are so obnoxious. I know that's shallow, but it's honestly how I see it. My Mum's "friend" recently sent out to ALL of her e-mail contacts this horribly worded, three paragraph atrocity full of spelling errors and grammatical no-no's about how she had had an epiphany and realised how much she wanted Obama to win, and went on and on about how he was the hope and future of America and he'd bring change and all this bullshit. Come on. That's just shoving your beliefs down someone's throat at its finest. She mentioned how her husband, for the first time, wanted to vote because this election and the prospect of Obama's presidency excited him so. Tell us, do we fucking care about your husband voting for the first time?
No, we do not. If anything, her husband is an idiot because he should have voted in all the other elections anyway--If everyone in America waited until the election that had a candidate that made them start shitting their pants and bouncing up and down in their chairs shouting "I LOOOOVE THIS CANDIDATE" then that would just be ridiculous and hardly anyone would vote.
Nevertheless I'd like for the Wednesday of next week to come--It's awfully interesting, I'd like to see who wins. Shame that it was at the same time as the World Series; everyone seems preoccupied with the election instead. XD
i must admit that from these far distant shores Obama comes across in the same mould as Blair did here in the UK back in the mid 90's and we all know how that turned out in the end.there's a lot of 'spin' and 'sacarin' with Obama IMO
however,McCain reminds me too much of a Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock type of personality and that is just as bad so im stuck in the middle for who i'd really like to see win.policies dont really come into it at the moment because they will say anything to the public if they think they will get a winning vote.
my heart says Obama just for a complete change in the water but my head says McCain just so we across the pond have a fall guy to blame when the world goes completely tits up.
im also gonna miss ol' W.not coz he was any good but because he was a comedians meal ticket,im not sure the comedians will get a decent meal from Obama.
however,McCain reminds me too much of a Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock type of personality and that is just as bad so im stuck in the middle for who i'd really like to see win.policies dont really come into it at the moment because they will say anything to the public if they think they will get a winning vote.
my heart says Obama just for a complete change in the water but my head says McCain just so we across the pond have a fall guy to blame when the world goes completely tits up.
im also gonna miss ol' W.not coz he was any good but because he was a comedians meal ticket,im not sure the comedians will get a decent meal from Obama.
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[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]
i must admit that from these far distant shores Obama comes across in the same mould as Blair did here in the UK back in the mid 90's and we all know how that turned out in the end.there's a lot of 'spin' and 'sacarin' with Obama IMO
however,McCain reminds me too much of a Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock type of personality and that is just as bad so im stuck in the middle for who i'd really like to see win.policies dont really come into it at the moment because they will say anything to the public if they think they will get a winning vote.
my heart says Obama just for a complete change in the water but my head says McCain just so we across the pond have a fall guy to blame when the world goes completely tits up.
im also gonna miss ol' W.not coz he was any good but because he was a comedians meal ticket,im not sure the comedians will get a decent meal from Obama.
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oh theyll find a way ;)
david allen grier is already waiting, im sure!
[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]
i must admit that from these far distant shores Obama comes across in the same mould as Blair did here in the UK back in the mid 90's and we all know how that turned out in the end.there's a lot of 'spin' and 'sacarin' with Obama IMO
however,McCain reminds me too much of a Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock type of personality and that is just as bad so im stuck in the middle for who i'd really like to see win.policies dont really come into it at the moment because they will say anything to the public if they think they will get a winning vote.
my heart says Obama just for a complete change in the water but my head says McCain just so we across the pond have a fall guy to blame when the world goes completely tits up.
im also gonna miss ol' W.not coz he was any good but because he was a comedians meal ticket,im not sure the comedians will get a decent meal from Obama.
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oh theyll find a way ;)
david allen grier is already waiting, im sure!
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[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]
i must admit that from these far distant shores Obama comes across in the same mould as Blair did here in the UK back in the mid 90's and we all know how that turned out in the end.there's a lot of 'spin' and 'sacarin' with Obama IMO
however,McCain reminds me too much of a Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock type of personality and that is just as bad so im stuck in the middle for who i'd really like to see win.policies dont really come into it at the moment because they will say anything to the public if they think they will get a winning vote.
my heart says Obama just for a complete change in the water but my head says McCain just so we across the pond have a fall guy to blame when the world goes completely tits up.
im also gonna miss ol' W.not coz he was any good but because he was a comedians meal ticket,im not sure the comedians will get a decent meal from Obama.
[/QUOTE] Hahah, that stupid ass "Frank Caliendo" comes to mind.
[b]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/b]
i must admit that from these far distant shores Obama comes across in the same mould as Blair did here in the UK back in the mid 90's and we all know how that turned out in the end.there's a lot of 'spin' and 'sacarin' with Obama IMO
however,McCain reminds me too much of a Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock type of personality and that is just as bad so im stuck in the middle for who i'd really like to see win.policies dont really come into it at the moment because they will say anything to the public if they think they will get a winning vote.
my heart says Obama just for a complete change in the water but my head says McCain just so we across the pond have a fall guy to blame when the world goes completely tits up.
im also gonna miss ol' W.not coz he was any good but because he was a comedians meal ticket,im not sure the comedians will get a decent meal from Obama.
[/QUOTE] Hahah, that stupid ass "Frank Caliendo" comes to mind.
I don't know about you guys but I'm putting down Treasure Moment as my choice for president. We should all do this. It'd end up on the news if enough people did it. They'd be like "who is this treasure moment" and we'd be like whoa we did that loz"
hahahaha i think it wojld owir and i type rewal fast ont htis forum
hahahaha i think it wojld owir and i type rewal fast ont htis forum
Meh, I won't mince words. I really hope Obama wins. I bet you anything when the news hits Palin, she'll look as soulless and stupid as always.
Honestly ; she has dead, dead eyes. She constantly looks like someone's just shot a massive load into the back of her throat and she doesn't quite know what to do with it yet. I'm *sick* of people saying she's hot, too. What the hell? Stupid does not equal hot.
Honestly ; she has dead, dead eyes. She constantly looks like someone's just shot a massive load into the back of her throat and she doesn't quite know what to do with it yet. I'm *sick* of people saying she's hot, too. What the hell? Stupid does not equal hot.
The process and methods of campaigning are pretty strange and it takes a certain personality to get up there and make a speech and just stick to one side of an argument. They are using half-truths to get the crowd all fired up it seems (done on both sides). They promise things they cannot deliver, play dirty tricks, and then expect us to like them. Oh, well. I'm disappointed in both sides at this point, because they are treating us like we are stupid. Obama is speaking with a fake accent (depending on which state he is in) and McCain is using Joe the Plumber in all his speeches. Palin says that the Democrats don't want to drill for oil, but that is probably not all the way true. Apparently, Biden is too loose with the things he is saying. If it weren't so bad, there wouldn't be so many great skits on Saturday Night Live. So ... whoever wins, I'll be happy. Ha. At least it will be over and then they will have to get to work.
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
Meh, I won't mince words. I really hope Obama wins. I bet you anything when the news hits Palin, she'll look as soulless and stupid as always.
Honestly ; she has dead, dead eyes. She constantly looks like someone's just shot a massive load into the back of her throat and she doesn't quite know what to do with it yet. [i][b]I'm *sick* of people saying she's hot, too. What the hell? Stupid does not equal hot.[/b][/i]
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Ditto. Just cos she was Miss Champion of whatever fucking beauty contest she'd been in SEVERAL YEARS AGO, does not equal for hottie 10, 20, 30 years later.
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
Meh, I won't mince words. I really hope Obama wins. I bet you anything when the news hits Palin, she'll look as soulless and stupid as always.
Honestly ; she has dead, dead eyes. She constantly looks like someone's just shot a massive load into the back of her throat and she doesn't quite know what to do with it yet. [i][b]I'm *sick* of people saying she's hot, too. What the hell? Stupid does not equal hot.[/b][/i]
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Ditto. Just cos she was Miss Champion of whatever fucking beauty contest she'd been in SEVERAL YEARS AGO, does not equal for hottie 10, 20, 30 years later.
Obama will win, McCain can't win even with fundraisers hosted by Rothschilds. McCain simply doesn't have the political allies to get a legislative agenda to produce results. Nor does he have enough support among business & industry types to generate the media momentum. Both houses of the Congress will be controlled by the Democrats, because a complete course correction is necessary, to prevent the kind of implosion seen in American auto makers and the financial services industry from becoming widespread in the military-industrial complex. It's the only tool left in this overextended empire keeping us globally relevant because the foreign aid carrot always comes with the whiff of a big stick. The politics of Harry Truman are passe' -- Eisenhower is the one we should have been studying in 1999-2000, and it doesn't take a renegade archaeologist in a fedora and snapping a bullwhip to keep it real nine years later. I certainly agree that a Vietnam veteran should be president one day, but McCain is not the one. Neither is it accurate to suggest Obama is a blank slate. The real concern in this election, imho, is the inaccuracy of the touch-insensitive Ivotronic voting machine. Use a stylus, and if possible, get your own receipt with a camera phone.
Thanks Joxer! Guinness, roast rack of lamb, & a bonfire for ye on Inchcailloch :)
Thanks Joxer! Guinness, roast rack of lamb, & a bonfire for ye on Inchcailloch :)