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I think The Works album was part of a wider internal struggle within the band over what direction they should take. Brian and Roger feeling vindicated by their oppostion to the concept behind Hot Space and annoyed that Freddie and John had talked them around to convinced them it was a good idea fought back to move the band back into safe and familiar territory.
I think Freddie's power-base suffered greatly as Brian and Roger blamed him for being the one so enthusiastically pushing for the funk sound of their previous album which did so badly and in some ways really killed dead the momentum they had until that point been building. It's worth noting that there are only two Mercury penned tracks on The Works and neither of them released as singles. (A Hard Life and Is This The World We Created? were both joint collaborations with May).
They'e always said that they didn't sit down and try to make hits rather albums. The Works I think they clearly DID try to make hits to atone for Hot Space.
If Freddie was to go his own way it might have been then. But he stuck with it.
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"It's A Hard Life", if you buy the album, you'll notice it's credited to only Freddie Mercury. =) Freddie did all the music and lyrics on the song, even if Brian May suggested the "Oh" in "Oh, yeah, I fell in love", I don't consider it a real contribution to consider. In other words, for you... get off Limewire, and buy the album!
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Anyone who knows anything about the song knows that it was Freddie's song but him and May worked on the lyrics together, May even talks about this on the GH2 DVD commentary that he spent a lot of time with Freddie on that song working on the lyrics helping him put down his feelings and where the song wanted to go which is why he felt so dismayed at the video of it.
It was essentially a collaboration lyrically but because the basic idea came from Freddie he got the credit as the songs creator.
So don't start with that disparaging "get off limewire", why don't you get off something and look beyond just who the song is credited to and find out about the background and story of each song.
From May's own mouth...
". I particularly worked very closely with Freddie on the words of "It's a Hard Life" ... we had a fantastic dialogue, looking at every word, trying to distill our common experiences, though in different areas ..... "
I guess you think because the album credits "Queen" on their last two studio albums that they all wrote all the songs jointly an anyone who thinks differently are just muppets who download from limewire.
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I know what Brian said on the commentary. And Brian also claims Paul Rodger's is Freddie's idol. He also is mad at Freddie for having other musicians on the "Mr. Bad Guy" album instead of Queen members.
As for The Miracle album, Freddie wrote all of the songs. Music and lyrics. He played lead guitar on Headlong too. [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] And for the Innuendo album, Freddie wrote all the lyrics, and the rest of the band wrote the music. Freddie sang all the songs while in a wheel chair... you can see it sitting in the corner of the studio on the 'Headlong' music video.[img=/images/smiley/msn/omg_smile.gif][/img]
Oh, how I love people who's favorite Queen product is the Platinum Collection!!!!
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I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
And there goes the topic subject.
[QUOTE]He also is mad at Freddie for having other musicians on the "Mr. Bad Guy" album instead of Queen members.[/QUOTE]
It seems that mr. May has some problems then to understand the concept of a "band" and a "solo" project if this is true. If by having 50% of the original members he still insist on using the name Queen, what if there was 100% of the band in a SOLO album of a member? It should be called Queen + Freddie? Freddie + Queen?... nonsense.
[QUOTE]He also is mad at Freddie for having other musicians on the "Mr. Bad Guy" album instead of Queen members.[/QUOTE]
It seems that mr. May has some problems then to understand the concept of a "band" and a "solo" project if this is true. If by having 50% of the original members he still insist on using the name Queen, what if there was 100% of the band in a SOLO album of a member? It should be called Queen + Freddie? Freddie + Queen?... nonsense.
If Freddie released Mr. Bad Guy in 2005, it'd of been a fucking hit album in the USA.
I thought Brian's issue was said to be that Freddie got a different guitarist to sound somewhat like Brian. When i he wanted Brian's sound one might suppose he'd've asked Brian to guest. Like Freddie later did on Shove It (to name but one).
But then I don't know where the idea that Brian had a problem with Mr Bad Guy came from. It's probably not true.
But then I don't know where the idea that Brian had a problem with Mr Bad Guy came from. It's probably not true.
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I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. [b]Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....[/b]but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
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Anyone can read Brian May's Soapbox. =)
I don't give a fuck of what Brian contributed to It's A Hard Life... if Brian contributed significantly, I'm sure the credit would of been given. I'm sure he did his bits in it, but I doubt it was 50/50, and you know that.
I want a photo of you holding The Works album.
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I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. [b]Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....[/b]but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
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Anyone can read Brian May's Soapbox. =)
I don't give a fuck of what Brian contributed to It's A Hard Life... if Brian contributed significantly, I'm sure the credit would of been given. I'm sure he did his bits in it, but I doubt it was 50/50, and you know that.
I want a photo of you holding The Works album.
should have, would have, could have... who cares... what happened, happened, it is history now.
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[b]atg2001 wrote: [/b]
I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. [b]Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....[/b]but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
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Anyone can read Brian May's Soapbox. =)
I don't give a fuck of what Brian contributed to It's A Hard Life... if Brian contributed significantly, I'm sure the credit would of been given. I'm sure he did his bits in it, but I doubt it was 50/50, and you know that.
I want a photo of you holding The Works album. [/QUOTE]
So presumably you don't think Freddie Mercury contributed significantly to the track A Kind of Magic despite the fact that we can hear the distinct difference between the sountrack single and the album single and know that Freddie was credited mainly with being in charge of that change and altering and reconstructing large sections to make it suitable for commercial release.
Presumably because Roger Taylor is credited as the sole composer/creator of the song, that never happened?
Just how naive are you about how songs are composed? Do you think they all sat in four corners of the room scribbling quietly in secrecy? Yes most songs were entirely solo compositions but other songs to a varying degree were collaborations between two or more of them but until The Miracle album the originator of the song always got the writing credit.
Another One Bites The Dust for example was John's song but he worked with Freddie and the song changed around a lot because of that, we originally we know it was about cowboys but the band (in this case Freddie) worked with him to reconstruct the lyrics of the song.
So if Freddie was still alive and had a lovely soapbox and said that he worked with John on the lyrics on Another One Bites The Dust could we say that we doubted Freddie contribted significantly because the song was credited to just one person?
It's a nonsense, we know that Brian and Freddie worked together on that song. The original idea was Freddie's the basic song, him and Brian worked together on improving on the song.
How many Queen songs released between 1973-1989 were credited to MORE than one of them? A very small number. So do you say that on all the other songs not one other artist or member of the band contributed significantly towards the birth or structure or composition or arrangement of the song other than the original writer? After all this MUST be the case as the song writing credit was more often than not given to just one band member...right?
Finally, I'd want to see a photograph of you holding a certificate which proves your sanity
[b]Play The Game wrote: [/b]
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[b]atg2001 wrote: [/b]
I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. [b]Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....[/b]but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
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Anyone can read Brian May's Soapbox. =)
I don't give a fuck of what Brian contributed to It's A Hard Life... if Brian contributed significantly, I'm sure the credit would of been given. I'm sure he did his bits in it, but I doubt it was 50/50, and you know that.
I want a photo of you holding The Works album. [/QUOTE]
So presumably you don't think Freddie Mercury contributed significantly to the track A Kind of Magic despite the fact that we can hear the distinct difference between the sountrack single and the album single and know that Freddie was credited mainly with being in charge of that change and altering and reconstructing large sections to make it suitable for commercial release.
Presumably because Roger Taylor is credited as the sole composer/creator of the song, that never happened?
Just how naive are you about how songs are composed? Do you think they all sat in four corners of the room scribbling quietly in secrecy? Yes most songs were entirely solo compositions but other songs to a varying degree were collaborations between two or more of them but until The Miracle album the originator of the song always got the writing credit.
Another One Bites The Dust for example was John's song but he worked with Freddie and the song changed around a lot because of that, we originally we know it was about cowboys but the band (in this case Freddie) worked with him to reconstruct the lyrics of the song.
So if Freddie was still alive and had a lovely soapbox and said that he worked with John on the lyrics on Another One Bites The Dust could we say that we doubted Freddie contribted significantly because the song was credited to just one person?
It's a nonsense, we know that Brian and Freddie worked together on that song. The original idea was Freddie's the basic song, him and Brian worked together on improving on the song.
How many Queen songs released between 1973-1989 were credited to MORE than one of them? A very small number. So do you say that on all the other songs not one other artist or member of the band contributed significantly towards the birth or structure or composition or arrangement of the song other than the original writer? After all this MUST be the case as the song writing credit was more often than not given to just one band member...right?
Finally, I'd want to see a photograph of you holding a certificate which proves your sanity
[QUOTE]So if Freddie was still alive and had a lovely soapbox and said that he
worked with John on the lyrics on Another One Bites The Dust could we
say that we doubted Freddie contribted significantly because the song
was credited to just one person?[/QUOTE]
Yesterday is a "Lennon-McCartney" song - by agreement (like all the others). And it's Paul's solo, they didn't even participate in the recording.
If Freddie was alive, he would definitely write a song about this thread, called "Hijack my Thread".
worked with John on the lyrics on Another One Bites The Dust could we
say that we doubted Freddie contribted significantly because the song
was credited to just one person?[/QUOTE]
Yesterday is a "Lennon-McCartney" song - by agreement (like all the others). And it's Paul's solo, they didn't even participate in the recording.
If Freddie was alive, he would definitely write a song about this thread, called "Hijack my Thread".
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[b]Play The Game wrote: [/b]
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[b]atg2001 wrote: [/b]
I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. [b]Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....[/b]but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
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Anyone can read Brian May's Soapbox. =)
I don't give a fuck of what Brian contributed to It's A Hard Life... if Brian contributed significantly, I'm sure the credit would of been given. I'm sure he did his bits in it, but I doubt it was 50/50, and you know that.
I want a photo of you holding The Works album. [/QUOTE]
So presumably you don't think Freddie Mercury contributed significantly to the track A Kind of Magic despite the fact that we can hear the distinct difference between the sountrack single and the album single and know that Freddie was credited mainly with being in charge of that change and altering and reconstructing large sections to make it suitable for commercial release.
Presumably because Roger Taylor is credited as the sole composer/creator of the song, that never happened?
Just how naive are you about how songs are composed? Do you think they all sat in four corners of the room scribbling quietly in secrecy? Yes most songs were entirely solo compositions but other songs to a varying degree were collaborations between two or more of them but until The Miracle album the originator of the song always got the writing credit.
Another One Bites The Dust for example was John's song but he worked with Freddie and the song changed around a lot because of that, we originally we know it was about cowboys but the band (in this case Freddie) worked with him to reconstruct the lyrics of the song.
So if Freddie was still alive and had a lovely soapbox and said that he worked with John on the lyrics on Another One Bites The Dust could we say that we doubted Freddie contribted significantly because the song was credited to just one person?
It's a nonsense, we know that Brian and Freddie worked together on that song. The original idea was Freddie's the basic song, him and Brian worked together on improving on the song.
How many Queen songs released between 1973-1989 were credited to MORE than one of them? A very small number. So do you say that on all the other songs not one other artist or member of the band contributed significantly towards the birth or structure or composition or arrangement of the song other than the original writer? After all this MUST be the case as the song writing credit was more often than not given to just one band member...right?
Finally, I'd want to see a photograph of you holding a certificate which proves your sanity
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The problem with you is, you seem to act as if Brian contributed significantly, at least 50%, to 'It's A Hard Life'... you even co-credited it to him, yet even he wouldn't bother doing so, to bring the royalties in which you claim he deserves.
[b]atg2001 wrote: [/b]
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[b]Play The Game wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]atg2001 wrote: [/b]
I'm not even going to quote what you've said as you're clearly infatuated with the enter button it's nearly impossible to.
Secondly you're such an arrogant SOB. [b]Brian said he worked closely with Freddie on the lyrics of the song....[/b]but we cannot believe him can we as he also says he liked Paul Rogers...so that must be false.
Then you go onto this bollocks about "oh how I love people who say their favourite Queen album is the greatest hits" because you have no idea what you were talking about and got embarrassed for being the "real fan" who had no clue about the background of a song.
You clearly have no clue mate and if you best you have is to insinuate that you're "more" of a fan because you've got an attitude problem or use the quote button like a retard leaving dirty great white spaces between everything then I suggest you go away think about what you've done and then come back and try again with a better effort.
Of course know the real background to songs and who contributed what and who worked closely with who and who's concepts and ideas went into them is something only "i love greatest hits" fans would know isn't it? People like you, indepth knowledgeable people like you the REAL fan don't need to know any of that do you? No because people who know that just know the greatest hits. They're not smart enough to read an album sleeve like you are.
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Anyone can read Brian May's Soapbox. =)
I don't give a fuck of what Brian contributed to It's A Hard Life... if Brian contributed significantly, I'm sure the credit would of been given. I'm sure he did his bits in it, but I doubt it was 50/50, and you know that.
I want a photo of you holding The Works album. [/QUOTE]
So presumably you don't think Freddie Mercury contributed significantly to the track A Kind of Magic despite the fact that we can hear the distinct difference between the sountrack single and the album single and know that Freddie was credited mainly with being in charge of that change and altering and reconstructing large sections to make it suitable for commercial release.
Presumably because Roger Taylor is credited as the sole composer/creator of the song, that never happened?
Just how naive are you about how songs are composed? Do you think they all sat in four corners of the room scribbling quietly in secrecy? Yes most songs were entirely solo compositions but other songs to a varying degree were collaborations between two or more of them but until The Miracle album the originator of the song always got the writing credit.
Another One Bites The Dust for example was John's song but he worked with Freddie and the song changed around a lot because of that, we originally we know it was about cowboys but the band (in this case Freddie) worked with him to reconstruct the lyrics of the song.
So if Freddie was still alive and had a lovely soapbox and said that he worked with John on the lyrics on Another One Bites The Dust could we say that we doubted Freddie contribted significantly because the song was credited to just one person?
It's a nonsense, we know that Brian and Freddie worked together on that song. The original idea was Freddie's the basic song, him and Brian worked together on improving on the song.
How many Queen songs released between 1973-1989 were credited to MORE than one of them? A very small number. So do you say that on all the other songs not one other artist or member of the band contributed significantly towards the birth or structure or composition or arrangement of the song other than the original writer? After all this MUST be the case as the song writing credit was more often than not given to just one band member...right?
Finally, I'd want to see a photograph of you holding a certificate which proves your sanity
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The problem with you is, you seem to act as if Brian contributed significantly, at least 50%, to 'It's A Hard Life'... you even co-credited it to him, yet even he wouldn't bother doing so, to bring the royalties in which you claim he deserves.
A short tutorial on quoting posts, to help mantain QZ a bit more clean:
Quote only things that have any meaning to your reply, and add your reply after that. Makes it much more easy to understand and makes everything stay clear and good for reading if you can do this, and you wont spend as much time on doing so than us, skipping all the unnecessary parts. You can even quote a full paragraph or two if you're afraid that a single line off the original text will sound strange, but a whole paragraph is (still) better than the whole thing all over again ten times.
The quote tag behaviour is a bit bizarre here we all know, but use it every time you need to quote a different part of the original message, putting it inside the ['s and using CAPS. We all can find who was the original poster of that specific quotation, you don't need to quote the full message at once (with ALL the following meaningless REPLIES) just to mean that you are replying to the original poster. Unless it's a personal attack to the poster, that is.
kthxbye.
Quote only things that have any meaning to your reply, and add your reply after that. Makes it much more easy to understand and makes everything stay clear and good for reading if you can do this, and you wont spend as much time on doing so than us, skipping all the unnecessary parts. You can even quote a full paragraph or two if you're afraid that a single line off the original text will sound strange, but a whole paragraph is (still) better than the whole thing all over again ten times.
The quote tag behaviour is a bit bizarre here we all know, but use it every time you need to quote a different part of the original message, putting it inside the ['s and using CAPS. We all can find who was the original poster of that specific quotation, you don't need to quote the full message at once (with ALL the following meaningless REPLIES) just to mean that you are replying to the original poster. Unless it's a personal attack to the poster, that is.
kthxbye.
Regarding Brian's sound being replicated on Mr Bad Guy.
Most artists go off on their own and do albums because they don't get the flexibility to do "EXACTLY" what they want.
For example, even on songs written fully by John Entwistle of The Who, like My Wife or Heaven And Hell, the other three members had enough power within the group to determone how the track ended up. As a result, Heaven And Hell ended up being a lot cleaner and played fatster than it was originally conceived and My Wife was a lot tighter and featured less brass than originally planned. He also had a lot of material that they just were not prepared to work on ahead of Pete Townshend's material and so, as a result, he went off and did his own thing in 1970. Re-recording Heaven And Hell and My Wife eventually, in the way he originally wanted them to be done. This effectively gave him the freedom to say to the rest of the players on the album "This is what I want you to play and this is how I want it done". After all, he's the one paying the session fee.
Freddie was able to do just that. There's every chance that Brian (rightly so in my view) would have wanted to play in a certain way as *HE* heard the tracks and not as Freddie heard them in his mind. The fact that the session player would have been painful to Brian because he didn't get the chance on some reasonably strong material, but, ultimately, Freddie's solo material NEEDED to be outside of the band simply for Fred to have complete comtrol over what ended up on the album.
With Queen he didn't ever have that.
Most artists go off on their own and do albums because they don't get the flexibility to do "EXACTLY" what they want.
For example, even on songs written fully by John Entwistle of The Who, like My Wife or Heaven And Hell, the other three members had enough power within the group to determone how the track ended up. As a result, Heaven And Hell ended up being a lot cleaner and played fatster than it was originally conceived and My Wife was a lot tighter and featured less brass than originally planned. He also had a lot of material that they just were not prepared to work on ahead of Pete Townshend's material and so, as a result, he went off and did his own thing in 1970. Re-recording Heaven And Hell and My Wife eventually, in the way he originally wanted them to be done. This effectively gave him the freedom to say to the rest of the players on the album "This is what I want you to play and this is how I want it done". After all, he's the one paying the session fee.
Freddie was able to do just that. There's every chance that Brian (rightly so in my view) would have wanted to play in a certain way as *HE* heard the tracks and not as Freddie heard them in his mind. The fact that the session player would have been painful to Brian because he didn't get the chance on some reasonably strong material, but, ultimately, Freddie's solo material NEEDED to be outside of the band simply for Fred to have complete comtrol over what ended up on the album.
With Queen he didn't ever have that.
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fact that the session player would have been painful to Brian because
he didn't get the chance on some reasonably strong material, but,
ultimately, Freddie's solo material NEEDED to be outside of the band
simply for Fred to have complete comtrol over what ended up on the
album.[/QUOTE]
Power and controlling issues aside, I think that for him it would be commercially much better to just release a Queen-sounding album, just with his name on it ("all royalties are MINE, darling!"). But of course this is not what always one wants when doing a solo record, it's mostly to try to make things that are sometimes impossible to do in your own band for several reasons (Charlie Watts is a good example).
In certain bands, this "sound cloning" while going solo can be easily achieved (say... Bon Jovi is an example), while in others it's impossible to recreate the band's overall mood and sound without all the other members. Inviting Brian could help a bit, but it wouldn't sound any better as a Queen-clone as it did with someone trying to emulate him I think, and my guess is that what he wanted was something very different, this is why MBG is so "bad" to some.
fact that the session player would have been painful to Brian because
he didn't get the chance on some reasonably strong material, but,
ultimately, Freddie's solo material NEEDED to be outside of the band
simply for Fred to have complete comtrol over what ended up on the
album.[/QUOTE]
Power and controlling issues aside, I think that for him it would be commercially much better to just release a Queen-sounding album, just with his name on it ("all royalties are MINE, darling!"). But of course this is not what always one wants when doing a solo record, it's mostly to try to make things that are sometimes impossible to do in your own band for several reasons (Charlie Watts is a good example).
In certain bands, this "sound cloning" while going solo can be easily achieved (say... Bon Jovi is an example), while in others it's impossible to recreate the band's overall mood and sound without all the other members. Inviting Brian could help a bit, but it wouldn't sound any better as a Queen-clone as it did with someone trying to emulate him I think, and my guess is that what he wanted was something very different, this is why MBG is so "bad" to some.
I forgot: the post above isn't any hidden criticism towards Q+PR. They don't need more of that.
Let's be honest, if Freddie was alive today, and had released Mr. Bad Guy now, at the age he was in 1985, it would have been a top 10 album in the USA with the teens just drooling over that pop rock music. I've had sex with 30 women while that album was blaring.