Phoebe also confirms Fred was singing during his last visit to Switzerland in October.
Btw, of course Fred was involved in the writing of Mother Love: Brian's commented a couple of times on how they worked together on an embryonic verse, being their last experience collaborating (they had some more during those days, like Bijou). Moreover, there's the manuscript (missing the last verse), and of course the credits: May/Mercury. When the credit said Queen, you could assume it was a matter of agreement but one of them could've been not involved (e.g. Roger and Party), but when it's a double-credit, in the case of Queen, it's obvious that there's a reason for it.
Now, of course May contributed more to ML than Fred, but that's another story.
And indeed, You Don't Fool Me is Mercury/Taylor. It was John who stopped contributing to the songwriting side after the 80's were over. His only input consisted of co-creating TSMGO sequence with Rog, and re-organising Hitman's structure.
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I know i'm off topic a bit, but i am fairly sure that during the recording of Innuendo, John was apparently absent a lot as "he was on holiday" and that Brian played a lot of his bass parts. Can;t remember where i read it, could have been a tabloid so probably not that accurate but they were quoting Brian. Who knows.
Was there ever any intention to have a follow up to Barcelona or continue on with his idea of a covers album, as he had recorded The Great Pretender.
Was there ever any intention to have a follow up to Barcelona or continue on with his idea of a covers album, as he had recorded The Great Pretender.
That's utter pish. John played all the (human) bass parts on the album. Brian's got loads of enviable skills, but playing bass isn't one of them.
He wrote My Secret Fantasy, right? Okay okay, I wouldn't really call it a masterpiece, but still...
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
That's utter pish. John played all the (human) bass parts on the album. Brian's got loads of enviable skills, but playing bass isn't one of them.
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I couldn't see Brian playing some of the crazy sounding bits in "I'm Going Slightly Mad", put it that way!!
Inasumuch as there's some programmed drums on the Innuendo album though, I could see Brian doing simpler bass stuff. As I can't recall any at this moment in time, I wouldn't bank on it though.
[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
That's utter pish. John played all the (human) bass parts on the album. Brian's got loads of enviable skills, but playing bass isn't one of them.
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I couldn't see Brian playing some of the crazy sounding bits in "I'm Going Slightly Mad", put it that way!!
Inasumuch as there's some programmed drums on the Innuendo album though, I could see Brian doing simpler bass stuff. As I can't recall any at this moment in time, I wouldn't bank on it though.
I think I'd written something about it before but I don't remember where, so here it goes:
Innuendo: Bass is completely human, so are drums.
Slightly Mad: Bass is human, drums combine human (the basic pattern) with some e-drums and/or programming.
Headlong: Bass is human (final cut, that is), drums are mostly programmed.
I Can't Live With You: Ditto.
Don't Try So Hard: Both bass and drums are human, and very well-played too!
Ride the Wild Wind: A bit of both. I was wrong about the main drum pattern: it's human indeed.
All God's People: Bass is 100% human, drums are mostly programmed except for the gospel bit.
Days of Our Lives: Bass is 100% human, drums are mostly programmed.
Delilah: Ditto.
The Hitman: Bass is 100% human, drums are mostly human but there's some programming in the synth-part.
Bijou: No bass or drums (though there's some sort of percussive synth-sound near the end of the vocal bit).
Show Must Go On: Both are completely human, and a marvellous performance by both.
So, to sum up, John actually participated more on that album that Roger (on instruments, of course vocals and songwriting are another story).
Innuendo: Bass is completely human, so are drums.
Slightly Mad: Bass is human, drums combine human (the basic pattern) with some e-drums and/or programming.
Headlong: Bass is human (final cut, that is), drums are mostly programmed.
I Can't Live With You: Ditto.
Don't Try So Hard: Both bass and drums are human, and very well-played too!
Ride the Wild Wind: A bit of both. I was wrong about the main drum pattern: it's human indeed.
All God's People: Bass is 100% human, drums are mostly programmed except for the gospel bit.
Days of Our Lives: Bass is 100% human, drums are mostly programmed.
Delilah: Ditto.
The Hitman: Bass is 100% human, drums are mostly human but there's some programming in the synth-part.
Bijou: No bass or drums (though there's some sort of percussive synth-sound near the end of the vocal bit).
Show Must Go On: Both are completely human, and a marvellous performance by both.
So, to sum up, John actually participated more on that album that Roger (on instruments, of course vocals and songwriting are another story).
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shows what you know
dirty fucking rat. he took off when he took off his medication to stop, you see when he stopped taking that meds he had a bit more energy for an even short time and did some more singing.
are you even calling dave richards a liar?? who am i going to listen to - you or him? LOL game over, freddie was singing after May.
like they made the these are days of our lives video in May around the date your suggesting, are you going to stand serious face and say that he could stand under studio lights and wear hot makeup, but that he wouldnt be able to sit in a comfy chair and sing????
you are a swine. dont belittle his achevemets.
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Having a bad day, huh? I think you need to work on your manners quite a bit.
Anyway, David Richards says in the Champions of the World video that Freddie's last vocal was recorded in May. I haven't watched the video in a while, but this next quote is from Queenpedia website:
Varying accounts have indicated the time period when Freddie was unable to continue working on the album. While David Richards had somewhat carelessly said that Freddie finished his last vocal and then passed away ten days later, he had also explained in the Champions Of The World documentary that Freddie's final vocal was on 22 May 1991, and then held up a studio track sheet of Mother Love that confirmed this. It's likely that the sessions extended no further than June 1991; as much of a workaholic as he was, Freddie also valued his rest and relaxation. Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton have also claimed that Freddie was unable to speak in his last weeks, and, listening to Mother Love, it's not possible he recorded his vocal ten days before he died.
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[b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
And indeed, You Don't Fool Me is Mercury/Taylor. It was John who stopped contributing to the songwriting side after the 80's were over. His only input consisted of co-creating TSMGO sequence with Rog, and re-organising Hitman's structure.
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I always thought that John wrote Don't Try So Hard, but I guess not...
[b]andreas_mercury wrote:[/b]
shows what you know
dirty fucking rat. he took off when he took off his medication to stop, you see when he stopped taking that meds he had a bit more energy for an even short time and did some more singing.
are you even calling dave richards a liar?? who am i going to listen to - you or him? LOL game over, freddie was singing after May.
like they made the these are days of our lives video in May around the date your suggesting, are you going to stand serious face and say that he could stand under studio lights and wear hot makeup, but that he wouldnt be able to sit in a comfy chair and sing????
you are a swine. dont belittle his achevemets.
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Having a bad day, huh? I think you need to work on your manners quite a bit.
Anyway, David Richards says in the Champions of the World video that Freddie's last vocal was recorded in May. I haven't watched the video in a while, but this next quote is from Queenpedia website:
Varying accounts have indicated the time period when Freddie was unable to continue working on the album. While David Richards had somewhat carelessly said that Freddie finished his last vocal and then passed away ten days later, he had also explained in the Champions Of The World documentary that Freddie's final vocal was on 22 May 1991, and then held up a studio track sheet of Mother Love that confirmed this. It's likely that the sessions extended no further than June 1991; as much of a workaholic as he was, Freddie also valued his rest and relaxation. Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton have also claimed that Freddie was unable to speak in his last weeks, and, listening to Mother Love, it's not possible he recorded his vocal ten days before he died.
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[b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
And indeed, You Don't Fool Me is Mercury/Taylor. It was John who stopped contributing to the songwriting side after the 80's were over. His only input consisted of co-creating TSMGO sequence with Rog, and re-organising Hitman's structure.
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I always thought that John wrote Don't Try So Hard, but I guess not...
Don't Try So Hard is Freddie's. OTOH My Life Has Been Saved is John's.
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[b]aion wrote:[/b]
Having a bad day, huh? I think you need to work on your manners quite a bit.
Anyway, David Richards says in the Champions of the World video that Freddie's last vocal was recorded in May. I haven't watched the video in a while, but this next quote is from Queenpedia website:
Varying accounts have indicated the time period when Freddie was unable to continue working on the album. While David Richards had somewhat carelessly said that Freddie finished his last vocal and then passed away ten days later, he had also explained in the Champions Of The World documentary that Freddie's final vocal was on 22 May 1991, and then held up a studio track sheet of Mother Love that confirmed this. It's likely that the sessions extended no further than June 1991; as much of a workaholic as he was, Freddie also valued his rest and relaxation. Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton have also claimed that Freddie was unable to speak in his last weeks, and, listening to Mother Love, it's not possible he recorded his vocal ten days before he died.
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OMG i cant even believe you talking to me about manners!!!!!
im not the man to cut down freddies greatest acomplishents. champions of the world is obvious not factual in that bit he is just mistaken, it is quite obviously and well known that freddie did mother love when you say he did but that in the event he did the final verse of a winners tale sometime in the month or maybe a bit more before he died, in metropolis studio.
peter freestone and jim huton are also either senile or liars to you because in both their books freddie says a bunch of the stuff in his 'last week's so-called
LOL this is too easy
[b]aion wrote:[/b]
Having a bad day, huh? I think you need to work on your manners quite a bit.
Anyway, David Richards says in the Champions of the World video that Freddie's last vocal was recorded in May. I haven't watched the video in a while, but this next quote is from Queenpedia website:
Varying accounts have indicated the time period when Freddie was unable to continue working on the album. While David Richards had somewhat carelessly said that Freddie finished his last vocal and then passed away ten days later, he had also explained in the Champions Of The World documentary that Freddie's final vocal was on 22 May 1991, and then held up a studio track sheet of Mother Love that confirmed this. It's likely that the sessions extended no further than June 1991; as much of a workaholic as he was, Freddie also valued his rest and relaxation. Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton have also claimed that Freddie was unable to speak in his last weeks, and, listening to Mother Love, it's not possible he recorded his vocal ten days before he died.
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OMG i cant even believe you talking to me about manners!!!!!
im not the man to cut down freddies greatest acomplishents. champions of the world is obvious not factual in that bit he is just mistaken, it is quite obviously and well known that freddie did mother love when you say he did but that in the event he did the final verse of a winners tale sometime in the month or maybe a bit more before he died, in metropolis studio.
peter freestone and jim huton are also either senile or liars to you because in both their books freddie says a bunch of the stuff in his 'last week's so-called
LOL this is too easy
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[b]andreas_mercury wrote: [/b]
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[b]aion wrote:[/b]
Having a bad day, huh? I think you need to work on your manners quite a bit.
Anyway, David Richards says in the Champions of the World video that Freddie's last vocal was recorded in May. I haven't watched the video in a while, but this next quote is from Queenpedia website:
Varying accounts have indicated the time period when Freddie was unable to continue working on the album. While David Richards had somewhat carelessly said that Freddie finished his last vocal and then passed away ten days later, he had also explained in the Champions Of The World documentary that Freddie's final vocal was on 22 May 1991, and then held up a studio track sheet of Mother Love that confirmed this. It's likely that the sessions extended no further than June 1991; as much of a workaholic as he was, Freddie also valued his rest and relaxation. Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton have also claimed that Freddie was unable to speak in his last weeks, and, listening to Mother Love, it's not possible he recorded his vocal ten days before he died.
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OMG i cant even believe you talking to me about manners!!!!!
im not the man to cut down freddies greatest acomplishents. champions of the world is obvious not factual in that bit he is just mistaken, it is quite obviously and well known that freddie did mother love when you say he did but that in the event he did the final verse of a winners tale sometime in the month or maybe a bit more before he died, in metropolis studio.
peter freestone and jim huton are also either senile or liars to you because in both their books freddie says a bunch of the stuff in his 'last week's so-called
LOL this is too easy
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don't worry, aion is a typical internet idiot. He thinks he somehow knows more than the people who were close to freddie and queen in 1991.
[b]andreas_mercury wrote: [/b]
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[b]aion wrote:[/b]
Having a bad day, huh? I think you need to work on your manners quite a bit.
Anyway, David Richards says in the Champions of the World video that Freddie's last vocal was recorded in May. I haven't watched the video in a while, but this next quote is from Queenpedia website:
Varying accounts have indicated the time period when Freddie was unable to continue working on the album. While David Richards had somewhat carelessly said that Freddie finished his last vocal and then passed away ten days later, he had also explained in the Champions Of The World documentary that Freddie's final vocal was on 22 May 1991, and then held up a studio track sheet of Mother Love that confirmed this. It's likely that the sessions extended no further than June 1991; as much of a workaholic as he was, Freddie also valued his rest and relaxation. Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton have also claimed that Freddie was unable to speak in his last weeks, and, listening to Mother Love, it's not possible he recorded his vocal ten days before he died.
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OMG i cant even believe you talking to me about manners!!!!!
im not the man to cut down freddies greatest acomplishents. champions of the world is obvious not factual in that bit he is just mistaken, it is quite obviously and well known that freddie did mother love when you say he did but that in the event he did the final verse of a winners tale sometime in the month or maybe a bit more before he died, in metropolis studio.
peter freestone and jim huton are also either senile or liars to you because in both their books freddie says a bunch of the stuff in his 'last week's so-called
LOL this is too easy
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don't worry, aion is a typical internet idiot. He thinks he somehow knows more than the people who were close to freddie and queen in 1991.
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[b]aion wrote: [/b]
As we all know, only three songs on the Made In Heaven album were written and recorded post-Innuendo: A Winter's Tale, You Don't Fool Me and Mother Love. Of these, Winter's Tale was written by Freddie, You Don't Fool Me was written by John (as far as I know) and Mother Love was written by Brian and Freddie together. There was a period of about six months when the band worked on new songs, from the end of 1990 when Innuendo was finished to May 1991 when Freddie recorded his last vocal. I remember reading/hearing that Freddie begged the other three to write songs for him to sing; he said something to the effect of, if not exactly: "write me anything and I'll sing it". So, after Freddie pleaded the others to write songs for him, John wrote one song, Brian wrote half a song, and Roger apparently didn't manage to write anything. They were recording for half a year, so were there really only three songs they were working on? Of course they weren't doing new songs all of that time, not even nearly as Freddie just wasn't capable and they were also shooting videos and promoting Innuendo and working on solo projects, but still, it seems strange to me that they were trying to record a new album - or at least do as much new material as possible as that's what Freddie wanted - and yet they had only three songs. Plus Roger's writing block seems quite odd as he had been rather prolific lately, writing music for two bands and creating such big songs within the past year as Innuendo, These Are The Days Of Our Lives and New Dark Ages (by the way am I the only one who thinks that Roger should have given New Dark Ages for Freddie instead of The Cross?). How can it be that your friend, a man basically on his death bed asks you to write songs for him and you won't write one single song, even though you have six months to do that and you've been something of a prolific songwriter lately? Is it possible that there would have in fact been more than three songs the band were working on in 1991, but for whatever reason those songs still haven't been released (maybe they were too incomplete or something)?
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you don't even have your facts straight!... We all know John didn't write 'you don't fool me' and roger wasn't the creator of Innuendo. do some research!....The song started as a Jam session from brian, roger, and John. Freddie heard it from another room and took it over, writing the melody, and started the lryics. Fred also wrote the middle section, while Roger finished the lryics. You don't even know who wrote what!
[b]aion wrote: [/b]
As we all know, only three songs on the Made In Heaven album were written and recorded post-Innuendo: A Winter's Tale, You Don't Fool Me and Mother Love. Of these, Winter's Tale was written by Freddie, You Don't Fool Me was written by John (as far as I know) and Mother Love was written by Brian and Freddie together. There was a period of about six months when the band worked on new songs, from the end of 1990 when Innuendo was finished to May 1991 when Freddie recorded his last vocal. I remember reading/hearing that Freddie begged the other three to write songs for him to sing; he said something to the effect of, if not exactly: "write me anything and I'll sing it". So, after Freddie pleaded the others to write songs for him, John wrote one song, Brian wrote half a song, and Roger apparently didn't manage to write anything. They were recording for half a year, so were there really only three songs they were working on? Of course they weren't doing new songs all of that time, not even nearly as Freddie just wasn't capable and they were also shooting videos and promoting Innuendo and working on solo projects, but still, it seems strange to me that they were trying to record a new album - or at least do as much new material as possible as that's what Freddie wanted - and yet they had only three songs. Plus Roger's writing block seems quite odd as he had been rather prolific lately, writing music for two bands and creating such big songs within the past year as Innuendo, These Are The Days Of Our Lives and New Dark Ages (by the way am I the only one who thinks that Roger should have given New Dark Ages for Freddie instead of The Cross?). How can it be that your friend, a man basically on his death bed asks you to write songs for him and you won't write one single song, even though you have six months to do that and you've been something of a prolific songwriter lately? Is it possible that there would have in fact been more than three songs the band were working on in 1991, but for whatever reason those songs still haven't been released (maybe they were too incomplete or something)?
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you don't even have your facts straight!... We all know John didn't write 'you don't fool me' and roger wasn't the creator of Innuendo. do some research!....The song started as a Jam session from brian, roger, and John. Freddie heard it from another room and took it over, writing the melody, and started the lryics. Fred also wrote the middle section, while Roger finished the lryics. You don't even know who wrote what!
Regarding who wrote " You dont fool me " It was written by Freddie and John.I went to The University of Hertfordshire to see " An evening with Brian May" 9th January 2004.During the question and answer session, when asked who wrote " You dont fool me " Brian said It was Freddie and John.Regarding Innuendo, I thought It was written by Roger?, im sure I have heard an Interview with Roger for an American radio station, not long after Innuendo was released, when, Roger claimed to have written the lyrics for Innuendo.
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[b]Kevin Hughes wrote: [/b]
Regarding who wrote " You dont fool me " It was written by Freddie and John.I went to The University of Hertfordshire to see " An evening with Brian May" 9th January 2004.During the question and answer session, when asked who wrote " You dont fool me " Brian said It was Freddie and John.Regarding Innuendo, I thought It was written by Roger?, im sure I have heard an Interview with Roger for an American radio station, not long after Innuendo was released, when, Roger claimed to have written the lyrics for Innuendo.[/QUOTE]
yes, most of the lryics except for the middle section was roger, but freddie wrote most of the music and started the lryics. Roger finished them. A little research people!
[b]Kevin Hughes wrote: [/b]
Regarding who wrote " You dont fool me " It was written by Freddie and John.I went to The University of Hertfordshire to see " An evening with Brian May" 9th January 2004.During the question and answer session, when asked who wrote " You dont fool me " Brian said It was Freddie and John.Regarding Innuendo, I thought It was written by Roger?, im sure I have heard an Interview with Roger for an American radio station, not long after Innuendo was released, when, Roger claimed to have written the lyrics for Innuendo.[/QUOTE]
yes, most of the lryics except for the middle section was roger, but freddie wrote most of the music and started the lryics. Roger finished them. A little research people!
Why does every discussion have to end with morons shouting at eachother? This is actually a good topic so please keep it that way.
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
Headlong: Bass is human (final cut, that is), drums are mostly programmed.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm really surprised that headlong drums are mostly programmed. The feel and sound of the drums are typical Roger, including his trademark hi hat opening on the snare, and the snare and tom fills such before the solo etc... It could be that as the verse parts are pretty straight that he recorded once and then they copied the parts over and pver, but that wouldn't be the same as 'programmed' (ie completely fake) drums
[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
Headlong: Bass is human (final cut, that is), drums are mostly programmed.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm really surprised that headlong drums are mostly programmed. The feel and sound of the drums are typical Roger, including his trademark hi hat opening on the snare, and the snare and tom fills such before the solo etc... It could be that as the verse parts are pretty straight that he recorded once and then they copied the parts over and pver, but that wouldn't be the same as 'programmed' (ie completely fake) drums