Freddie's ethnicity issue ?

Freddie isn't Iranian. There aren't gays in Iran. [zebonka mode off]

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[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]

Freddie isn't Iranian. There aren't gays in Iran. [zebonka mode off]
[/QUOTE] Most logical post in this whole goddamn topic(and I mean it).

I used to be on QZ but was away for 2 years and forgot my ID so not new here.

As for persians speaking 'farsi' or 'avestian' I live in Bombay and I know quite a lot of parsis here but they speak in Gujarati.

That does not mean they are Gujaratis but simply that when they lived in Gujarat around the time they migrated to escape from the muslim invasion of Iran.

And it is obvious they would know Gujarati just as I know English because I cannot speak in Hindi or Kacchi if I have to communicate in the US.

I am not supporting either the theory of him being Indian or Iranian but only that most people residing in any particular country do not necessarily have indegenous roots (or have historically evolved) in that very country.

However I believe even an Indian who lives in USA can call himself 'American' because of the contribution he gives to the country (hey, who doesn't need cabbies?)

Similarly, I have no issues with parsis or Aryan descendants or [i]anyone [/i]for that matter calling himself a citizen of the country he currently lives in.

And to sum it up, it is Freddie's choice to call himself by his ethnicity or Nationality, He can call himself British and that would also stand corrected for his significant contribution to the country.

And you can sum up the ethnic value by 'origin of evolution of the particular race' in which parsis fall BOTH under Iran and India.

And if you trace origins really really really back, all mamal form took place when the world was a supercontinent comprising of 'all of the countries'

so at the end of the day, we are all brothers (big hug to everyone)

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[b]easternwolf wrote: [/b]

I used to be on QZ but was away for 2 years and forgot my ID so not new here.

As for persians speaking [b]'farsi' or 'avestian'[/b] I live in Bombay and I know quite a lot of parsis here but they speak in Gujarati.
[/QUOTE] First of all, it's [b]Avestan[/b] not '[b]avestian[/b]'. Secondly, I never said Parsis speak Avestan. I said they use it as a liturgical language for their religious ceremonies.

At the end of the day, I don't give a fuck really if Iranians want to claim Freddie as their own. Good for them. Even though I stand by my ground that Freddie ain't no fucking Iranian, I'm not going to insist he's Indian either because "Indian" is as much of a catch-all term as "Iranian"(I consider myself Bengali first, Indian second). Let's all just agree on the reality that he's a [b]Parsi[/b] and move on. If you dispute that, obviously you're an idiot(like TM).

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[b]Saif wrote:[/b]
They use Avestan
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Ah OK, thanks for that info.

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[b]wolf wrote:[/b]
blah blah blah...
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Wolf, I understand what you're trying to say, but the problem is that you posts belong to the intial 1 or 2 pages of this thread. No one's calling him Indian/Gujarati anymore. We have managed to narrow it down to the fact that our [b]Freddie was an ethnic Persian[/b]. And also, that it is not the same as saying that he was "ethnic Iranian" as such a human species does not exist because Iranians are a bunch a various ethnic groups.

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we are all brothers (big hug to everyone)
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A big hug to you too my celtic brother (main bhi Mumbai ka hoon bade bhai  [img=/images/smiley/msn/regular_smile.gif][/img] ).

the reason freddie was iranian is that the people with similar genetics to him are gathered in a place called iran, FACT, end of discussion.

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[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]

the reason freddie was iranian is that the people with similar genetics to him are gathered in a place called iran, FACT, [b]end of discussion.[/b][/QUOTE]

You've been saying 'end of discussion' for basically the whole thread... you know, that doesn't actually work until you stop discussing.

PS.  I'm Iranian too.

Fine, TM

Freddie is Persian.

There you go.

You and Freddie are of the exact breed

Will you die happy now?

Oye, kaisa hai yaar?

TM Chutya hai, lagta hai lund chuske bada hua.

Guys from India! It`s been most interesting to read your posts, you can`t even imagine how much I have got from them. Thank you for your contributions and tolerance!
Well, actually we know so little about India and all the things connected with it...

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[b]easternwolf wrote:
[/b]TM Chutya hai, lagta hai lund chuske bada hua.
[/QUOTE] LOL! I reached this conclusion quite some time back and so have stopped responding to him :-D

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[b]April wrote:[/b]
Guys from India! It`s been most interesting to read your posts, you can`t even imagine how much I have got from them. Thank you for your contributions and tolerance!
Well, actually we know so little about India and all the things connected with it...
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You're welcome, and thank YOU for the kind words April :-) .
Anything specific you wanna know about India/Indians/Parsis just PM me and I'll find the answer for ya, if I don't know.

Best Regards,
P Nair

The great secret.

First we indians had a conspiracy to take all your medical jobs

Then all your call center jobs

The make you break your limbs by introducing yoga to the west

fuck your women

Now we want Freddie too.

And there aint nothin you can do bout it.

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[b]easternwolf wrote:[/b]



TM Chutya hai, lagta hai lund chuske bada hua.

[/QUOTE] Sadharon lund nahi, bhai ka lund chuske bada hua