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jadedlady
New Kids On The Block, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Samatha Fox...I adored all of that music. Kinda embarrsing looking back and admitting to that now haha.
thomasquinn 32989
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There was a lot of shocking shit in the 80's, but at least it had character. Music since then has just been a colourless blend of things that have been done before, and done better.
I don't need a list of exceptions to that, I know they're out there... in general though, music is in pretty bad shape.
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The bland crap originated in the '80s. There has been interesting music in every decade, but the chart-oriented music in the '80s was the worst since the '50s at least, if you ask me. Mass-produced crap created by the producers with the 'band' just acting as poster-boys, which characterized the '90s, was elevated to an (anti-)art form during the '80s.
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bullshit, the best music ever is from the 80s, you are a retard.
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Yeah, nothing better than Cindy Lauper, Duran Duran, Rick Astley, Mr. Mister, Milli Vanilli, Poison and Christopher Cross. What would the world be without them...?
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There was a lot of shocking shit in the 80's, but at least it had character. Music since then has just been a colourless blend of things that have been done before, and done better.
I don't need a list of exceptions to that, I know they're out there... in general though, music is in pretty bad shape.
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The bland crap originated in the '80s. There has been interesting music in every decade, but the chart-oriented music in the '80s was the worst since the '50s at least, if you ask me. Mass-produced crap created by the producers with the 'band' just acting as poster-boys, which characterized the '90s, was elevated to an (anti-)art form during the '80s.
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bullshit, the best music ever is from the 80s, you are a retard.
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Yeah, nothing better than Cindy Lauper, Duran Duran, Rick Astley, Mr. Mister, Milli Vanilli, Poison and Christopher Cross. What would the world be without them...?
pittrek
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80's
[/QUOTE] Samplers, synth gates, Top 100s consisting of indistinguishable songs. Yeah, great music alright...
[/QUOTE] what are you talking about? the music of the 80s is very creative and distinguishable.
[/QUOTE] The 80's were characterized by industry over-involvement at practically every level of creativity. In essence, the 80's were stuffed with pre-packaged bands and utterly commercial crap cocked together by record company executives to line their pockets. Formulaic was the credo - party rocker for the guys, soft ballad for the ladies, throw in some anthemic refrains and a few watery synth lines, and viola. Certainly there were some bands that escaped this stigma, but calling the 80's the best decade of music is like calling Walmart the best retailer in existence. It took Nirvana and their grunge ilk to tear down the horrible, bombastic cheese of the most overtly colorless and misogynist decade in the history of modern music.
If I was to answer truthfully, I'd have to say 65-75. So much ridicuously good music, so much of it socially conscious and groundbreaking. A time of great studio experimentation, too.
[/QUOTE] nirvana is better than the 80s bands? i dont think so! they are ok at best. There were lots of awesome creative music in the 80s.
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You have very stange musical taste. Nirvana is of course [b]much[/b] better then all music produced in the 80s.
But still the 80s music is much better then the 90s music.
[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]
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[b]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/b]
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[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]
80's
[/QUOTE] Samplers, synth gates, Top 100s consisting of indistinguishable songs. Yeah, great music alright...
[/QUOTE] what are you talking about? the music of the 80s is very creative and distinguishable.
[/QUOTE] The 80's were characterized by industry over-involvement at practically every level of creativity. In essence, the 80's were stuffed with pre-packaged bands and utterly commercial crap cocked together by record company executives to line their pockets. Formulaic was the credo - party rocker for the guys, soft ballad for the ladies, throw in some anthemic refrains and a few watery synth lines, and viola. Certainly there were some bands that escaped this stigma, but calling the 80's the best decade of music is like calling Walmart the best retailer in existence. It took Nirvana and their grunge ilk to tear down the horrible, bombastic cheese of the most overtly colorless and misogynist decade in the history of modern music.
If I was to answer truthfully, I'd have to say 65-75. So much ridicuously good music, so much of it socially conscious and groundbreaking. A time of great studio experimentation, too.
[/QUOTE] nirvana is better than the 80s bands? i dont think so! they are ok at best. There were lots of awesome creative music in the 80s.
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You have very stange musical taste. Nirvana is of course [b]much[/b] better then all music produced in the 80s.
But still the 80s music is much better then the 90s music.
john bodega
There were [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJapZM7e9gU]one[/url] or two good songs in the 80's.
Treasure Moment
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80's
[/QUOTE] Samplers, synth gates, Top 100s consisting of indistinguishable songs. Yeah, great music alright...
[/QUOTE] what are you talking about? the music of the 80s is very creative and distinguishable.
[/QUOTE] The 80's were characterized by industry over-involvement at practically every level of creativity. In essence, the 80's were stuffed with pre-packaged bands and utterly commercial crap cocked together by record company executives to line their pockets. Formulaic was the credo - party rocker for the guys, soft ballad for the ladies, throw in some anthemic refrains and a few watery synth lines, and viola. Certainly there were some bands that escaped this stigma, but calling the 80's the best decade of music is like calling Walmart the best retailer in existence. It took Nirvana and their grunge ilk to tear down the horrible, bombastic cheese of the most overtly colorless and misogynist decade in the history of modern music.
If I was to answer truthfully, I'd have to say 65-75. So much ridicuously good music, so much of it socially conscious and groundbreaking. A time of great studio experimentation, too.
[/QUOTE] nirvana is better than the 80s bands? i dont think so! they are ok at best. There were lots of awesome creative music in the 80s.
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You have very stange musical taste. Nirvana is of course [b]much[/b] better then all music produced in the 80s.
But still the 80s music is much better then the 90s music.
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funny stuff, nirvana is mediocre grunge crap, you mean its better than queens work in the 80s? hahah funny guy!
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[b]ThomasQuinn wrote: [/b]
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[b]Treasure Moment wrote: [/b]
80's
[/QUOTE] Samplers, synth gates, Top 100s consisting of indistinguishable songs. Yeah, great music alright...
[/QUOTE] what are you talking about? the music of the 80s is very creative and distinguishable.
[/QUOTE] The 80's were characterized by industry over-involvement at practically every level of creativity. In essence, the 80's were stuffed with pre-packaged bands and utterly commercial crap cocked together by record company executives to line their pockets. Formulaic was the credo - party rocker for the guys, soft ballad for the ladies, throw in some anthemic refrains and a few watery synth lines, and viola. Certainly there were some bands that escaped this stigma, but calling the 80's the best decade of music is like calling Walmart the best retailer in existence. It took Nirvana and their grunge ilk to tear down the horrible, bombastic cheese of the most overtly colorless and misogynist decade in the history of modern music.
If I was to answer truthfully, I'd have to say 65-75. So much ridicuously good music, so much of it socially conscious and groundbreaking. A time of great studio experimentation, too.
[/QUOTE] nirvana is better than the 80s bands? i dont think so! they are ok at best. There were lots of awesome creative music in the 80s.
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You have very stange musical taste. Nirvana is of course [b]much[/b] better then all music produced in the 80s.
But still the 80s music is much better then the 90s music.
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funny stuff, nirvana is mediocre grunge crap, you mean its better than queens work in the 80s? hahah funny guy!
Marcos Napier
[QUOTE]Nirvana is of course much better then [b]all music[/b] produced in the 80s.[/QUOTE]
I love generalizations like that.
It's unfair to say or to try to imply that the grunge was the new punk and that it saved rocknroll. It wasn't. It was just a bunch of junkies with loud guitars.
If you consider bands that maybe started in the last years of the 70's (76-77 up for example) but had their best stuff released in the 80's... are they still 70's bands in their "essence"? Except for a few classic punk bands, most of them can be all put in the 80's basket. And if this way of thought is valid, a lot of the 90's grunge bands (*ahem* hi Kurt) started in the 80's too. 1989 is still in the 80's.
I love generalizations like that.
It's unfair to say or to try to imply that the grunge was the new punk and that it saved rocknroll. It wasn't. It was just a bunch of junkies with loud guitars.
If you consider bands that maybe started in the last years of the 70's (76-77 up for example) but had their best stuff released in the 80's... are they still 70's bands in their "essence"? Except for a few classic punk bands, most of them can be all put in the 80's basket. And if this way of thought is valid, a lot of the 90's grunge bands (*ahem* hi Kurt) started in the 80's too. 1989 is still in the 80's.
Sebastian
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[QUOTE]Nirvana is of course much better then [b]all music[/b] produced in the 80s.[/QUOTE]
I love generalizations like that.
It's unfair to say or to try to imply that the grunge was the new punk and that it saved rocknroll. It wasn't. It was just a bunch of junkies with loud guitars.
If you consider bands that maybe started in the last years of the 70's (76-77 up for example) but had their best stuff released in the 80's... are they still 70's bands in their "essence"? Except for a few classic punk bands, most of them can be all put in the 80's basket. And if this way of thought is valid, a lot of the 90's grunge bands (*ahem* hi Kurt) started in the 80's too. 1989 is still in the 80's. [/QUOTE]
According to that, should [i]No-One But You[/i] considered a 60's song because Brian started his professional career in 1969?
Should 'Liverpool Oratorio' be regarded as part of the 50's?
[b]Marcos Napier wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]Nirvana is of course much better then [b]all music[/b] produced in the 80s.[/QUOTE]
I love generalizations like that.
It's unfair to say or to try to imply that the grunge was the new punk and that it saved rocknroll. It wasn't. It was just a bunch of junkies with loud guitars.
If you consider bands that maybe started in the last years of the 70's (76-77 up for example) but had their best stuff released in the 80's... are they still 70's bands in their "essence"? Except for a few classic punk bands, most of them can be all put in the 80's basket. And if this way of thought is valid, a lot of the 90's grunge bands (*ahem* hi Kurt) started in the 80's too. 1989 is still in the 80's. [/QUOTE]
According to that, should [i]No-One But You[/i] considered a 60's song because Brian started his professional career in 1969?
Should 'Liverpool Oratorio' be regarded as part of the 50's?
pittrek
Exactly. I was talking (writing) about music produced in the 80's. To be again Queen-related, I love Queen, but I hate stuff like Radio Ga Ga or A Kind Of Magic.
I'm seriously thinking what did I like (musically) on the 80's. The only thing which I could think of was early Metallica :)
I'm seriously thinking what did I like (musically) on the 80's. The only thing which I could think of was early Metallica :)
Spiritinthesky
Just had a look, the 70's are winning at the moment.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]50's / Elvis, Chuck Berry and Rock & Roll[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]60's / The Beatles and The British Invasion, Motown, Psychedelia and the beginnings of Heavy Metal[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]70's / Arena Rock, FM Radio, Punk, Drugs and Rock & Roll. And disco[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]80's / New Wave, House, Hair Metal and MTV[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]90's / Grunge, Alternative, RockCountryPop and Boy Groups[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]00's / Pop Idol, The X Factor, American Idol, everybody reforms and every possible Genre and subgenre imaginable[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]If you fancy having a vote go to[/QUOTE]http://www.thisdayinmusic.com[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]50's / Elvis, Chuck Berry and Rock & Roll[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]60's / The Beatles and The British Invasion, Motown, Psychedelia and the beginnings of Heavy Metal[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]70's / Arena Rock, FM Radio, Punk, Drugs and Rock & Roll. And disco[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]80's / New Wave, House, Hair Metal and MTV[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]90's / Grunge, Alternative, RockCountryPop and Boy Groups[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]00's / Pop Idol, The X Factor, American Idol, everybody reforms and every possible Genre and subgenre imaginable[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]If you fancy having a vote go to[/QUOTE]http://www.thisdayinmusic.com[/QUOTE]
A_WintersTale
I also like the 80s - let's not forget Twisted Sisters, Alice Cooper and Van Halen reached their peaks in the 80s. Bon Jovi has been mentioned already, but then Texas also formed, Joanna Jett released "I Love Rock'n Roll" and even disco-wise it was much much better then 90s and 00s. Thanks
LozIan
I feel like the 00's are getting pretty shafted in these discussions: no mention of amazing acts like The Decemberists, Rufus Wainwright, Coheed & Cambria, The Mars Volta, The Dresden Dolls, or Muse. There's absolutely amazing music all around us. Just scratch the surface of our vacuous pop-music culture, ignore the sensationalist jargon-journalism, and enjoy.
Knute
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I also like the 80s - let's not forget Twisted Sisters, Alice Cooper and Van Halen reached their peaks in the 80s. Bon Jovi has been mentioned already, but then Texas also formed, Joanna Jett released "I Love Rock'n Roll" and even disco-wise it was much much better then 90s and 00s. Thanks
[/QUOTE] Alice Cooper's peak was the early to mid seventies without a doubt.
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I also like the 80s - let's not forget Twisted Sisters, Alice Cooper and Van Halen reached their peaks in the 80s. Bon Jovi has been mentioned already, but then Texas also formed, Joanna Jett released "I Love Rock'n Roll" and even disco-wise it was much much better then 90s and 00s. Thanks
[/QUOTE] Alice Cooper's peak was the early to mid seventies without a doubt.
thomasquinn 32989
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[b]LozIan wrote: [/b]
I feel like the 00's are getting pretty shafted in these discussions: no mention of amazing acts like The Decemberists, Rufus Wainwright, Coheed & Cambria, The Mars Volta, The Dresden Dolls, or Muse. There's absolutely amazing music all around us. Just scratch the surface of our vacuous pop-music culture, ignore the sensationalist jargon-journalism, and enjoy.
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There was always amazing music, and there was always crap. The question is, during which period was the dominant music best?
[b]LozIan wrote: [/b]
I feel like the 00's are getting pretty shafted in these discussions: no mention of amazing acts like The Decemberists, Rufus Wainwright, Coheed & Cambria, The Mars Volta, The Dresden Dolls, or Muse. There's absolutely amazing music all around us. Just scratch the surface of our vacuous pop-music culture, ignore the sensationalist jargon-journalism, and enjoy.
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There was always amazing music, and there was always crap. The question is, during which period was the dominant music best?
Yara
Neil Young. Covers almost 4 decades doin' extraordinarily above-the-average kindS of music. The Master.