Songwriting doesn't count when you're comparing two singers. It does, though, when you're comparing to musicians. As a musician, I think Fred was better; as a lead singer, I think Paul's one of the few who can top him.
jadedlady · Member since
Very interesting to read what the posters are saying in this thread, some of which I had not thought about before.
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Band Forever · Member since
As the remaining members of the group stated so many times past present and in the future no one can replace Freddie.
As for your remark about technique I think you do Freddie a big disservice, commentators report he had a 5 octave range, although I am not a fan of falsetto not just Freddie's but everybody elses too.
I sometimes think the gay thing is still quite a hang up for some of the public, if he had been straight we would only talking about their wonderful music and his brilliant singing, as for Paul Rodgers, Queen and their music has brought him and his music into the public eye, I for one think he is okish as a rock singer that huskiness grates me though, but could he do ballads, opera, rock funk, and all the other genres Queen examined? I think not ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls Freddie like the rest of the band and their talent only visits us once in a lifetime, so to spend time on these debates is pointless, Queen the 4 pc combo, peops remain incomparable within Rock 'n' Roll.
YourValentine · Member since
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Freddie lost the battle - and his life - to his vices; Paul broke free from drugs, fixed himself, and returned triumphantly. I'm tempted to give this one to Paul.
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Freddie did not die from cocaine, he died from a retro virus. It's really judgamental to say he lost his life to his "vices" - what is that supposed to be? Is being gay a "vice" or is having multiple sex partners a "vice"? AIDS is a tragedy for all people, it does not dicriminate between gays and heterosexuals and one contact to an infected partner can be enough to catch HIV - gay or hetero. Would Freddie have been a role model if he had been heterosexual because he stopped cocaine and quit smoking? Maybe promiscuity would have been a "Rock'n Roll Lifestyle" in your book. It's laughable to judge the lives of two people in such two superficial statements.
And no pittrek , Freddie was not "technically" bisexual, he was gay. I know you don't mean it but denying the fact that he was gay is not respecting his sexual preference. Only very few people are actually bisexual, most of us prefer one gender and come to terms with our sexual preference at some point in our lives. Elton John was even married to a woman but he is gay, not bisexual. It was the intolerance in the 20th century society that made it so hard for gay people to come out early and be open about being gay.
mrbadguy86 · Member since
Freddie had a much more successfull solo-career than Rodger... havent even heard of him in Norway before he played with May and Taylor! Name some of Rodgers solohits please?
Mercurys solohits include; Living On my Own(huge hit), Barcelona and The Great Pretender.. and all of them was at top 5 on the lists..
so I dont understand you people? Just because it wasnt rock? come on! As Mercury said it; People who only stay in one genre is ridiculous..
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» · Member since
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They're both amongst the greatest Rock singers EVER. They are too different to be compared. It's not fair to either of them. Especially Paul, a lot of Queen fans that have a 'Fred-fetish' don't seem to give Paul a fucking break, & frankly it's bullshit!
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Queen fans from the [i]older generation [/i]probably won't ever give him a break. That's when Queen was Queen IMO. Maybe bullshit to you but I"ll stay on Freddie's side of the fence....thank you!
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Speak for yourself, I've talked to Queen fans from your generation that love what Paul is doing in the [i]new[/i] group w/ Brian & Roger, reinterpreting Queen's back catalog in the process. The difference (IMO) between you and them? They've accepted Freddie's death, & [b]gotten over it[/b]; and want Brian & Roger to MOVE ON.
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(rolls eyes) Like I said "MY OPINION"
Just like fans like you who can't accept the fact that fans like myself feel this way. I've accepted Freddie's death. Paul Rodgers [b]Sucks[/b]!! That's why their comeback has been a world-wide phenomenon and all the new songs have topped the charts....ummm ya right!
magicalfreddiemercury · Member since
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They're both amongst the greatest Rock singers EVER. They are too different to be compared. It's not fair to either of them. Especially Paul, a lot of Queen fans that have a 'Fred-fetish' don't seem to give Paul a fucking break, & frankly it's bullshit!
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Queen fans from the [i]older generation [/i]probably won't ever give him a break. That's when Queen was Queen IMO. Maybe bullshit to you but I"ll stay on Freddie's side of the fence....thank you!
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Speak for yourself, I've talked to Queen fans from your generation that love what Paul is doing in the [i]new[/i] group w/ Brian & Roger, reinterpreting Queen's back catalog in the process. The difference (IMO) between you and them? They've accepted Freddie's death, & [b]gotten over it[/b]; and want Brian & Roger to MOVE ON.
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(rolls eyes) Like I said "MY OPINION"
Just like fans like you who can't accept the fact that fans like myself feel this way. I've accepted Freddie's death. Paul Rodgers [b]Sucks[/b]!! That's why their comeback has been a world-wide phenomenon and all the new songs have topped the charts....ummm ya right!
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I'm from that same 'older generation', dang it. Personally, I don't think Paul Rodgers sucks, I just don't like him as part of Queen. I have every Queen album - LPs, cassettes and CD's - and only one Bad Company 45. I was never a Paul Rodgers fan but I never hated him. I'm a Queen fan, a Freddie Mercury fan. Still enjoying Freddie's sound does not make me non-accepting of his death. It makes his music timeless.
But this topic isn't about bashing Paul. It's about stating the pros and cons of Freddie and Paul the way we see them. These are opinions, nothing more. They won't change anything. And getting hot about them is pointless and defeating.
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» · Member since
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They're both amongst the greatest Rock singers EVER. They are too different to be compared. It's not fair to either of them. Especially Paul, a lot of Queen fans that have a 'Fred-fetish' don't seem to give Paul a fucking break, & frankly it's bullshit!
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Queen fans from the [i]older generation [/i]probably won't ever give him a break. That's when Queen was Queen IMO. Maybe bullshit to you but I"ll stay on Freddie's side of the fence....thank you!
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Speak for yourself, I've talked to Queen fans from your generation that love what Paul is doing in the [i]new[/i] group w/ Brian & Roger, reinterpreting Queen's back catalog in the process. The difference (IMO) between you and them? They've accepted Freddie's death, & [b]gotten over it[/b]; and want Brian & Roger to MOVE ON.
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(rolls eyes) Like I said "MY OPINION"
Just like fans like you who can't accept the fact that fans like myself feel this way. I've accepted Freddie's death. Paul Rodgers [b]Sucks[/b]!! That's why their comeback has been a world-wide phenomenon and all the new songs have topped the charts....ummm ya right!
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I'm from that same 'older generation', dang it. Personally, I don't think Paul Rodgers sucks, I just don't like him as part of Queen. I have every Queen album - LPs, cassettes and CD's - and only one Bad Company 45. I was never a Paul Rodgers fan but I never hated him. I'm a Queen fan, a Freddie Mercury fan. Still enjoying Freddie's sound does not make me non-accepting of his death. It makes his music timeless.
But this topic isn't about bashing Paul. It's about stating the pros and cons of Freddie and Paul the way we see them. These are opinions, nothing more. They won't change anything. And getting hot about them is pointless and defeating.
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Hate him?? I never said I hate him. I agree with you...he should of never been part of Queen. That's why I said what I said, because he "sucks" at it!
magicalfreddiemercury · Member since
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Hate him?? I never said I hate him. I agree with you...he should of never been part of Queen. That's why I said what I said, because he "sucks" at it!
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Sorry... didn't mean to imply that you did. I was speaking for myself, just saying that it isn't all black and white for me. I'm not what I'd call a Paul Rodgers fan so to have him in the 'queen' lineup is bizarre to me. I don't resent anyone for it - not Brian, Roger, or Queen fans who like it. I simply don't enjoy it. Or buy it.
'tis all.
lalaalalaa · Member since
I fail to see how writing disco songs is considered bad songwriting. If it was bad disco songs then maybe but they were pretty darn good disco songs. ;) Freddie did get some popularity in the U.S, just not as much when you compare to South America. He was and still is underrated in North America. Not too sure about Canada though :)
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» · Member since
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I fail to see how writing disco songs is considered bad songwriting. If it was bad disco songs then maybe but they were pretty darn good disco songs. ;) Freddie did get some popularity in the U.S, just not as much when you compare to South America. He was and still is underrated in North America. Not too sure about Canada though :)[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding....Canada loves Queen!!
I drove three hours to get to Toronto to see this play!!! It was well worth it!!!
Winner of the 2007 Dora Award-winner for Best Musical, the Toronto production of We Will Rock You has
been an audience favourite, receiving standing ovations at each and
every performance.Originally scheduled to play seven weeks, the show
was quickly extended again and again.We Will Rock You played
61 weeks at the Canon Theatre, was seen by more than 700,000 people,
generated an estimated economic spin-off to the city of $180 million
and provided employment to more than 300 Canadian artists, technicians
and theatre support staff.
Rock on!!
demonwolf · Member since
Paul is a more consistent and reliable live singer. He's not the frontman Freddie was, and he has a different voice, but in terms of pure singing in a live situation... Paul is the better of the two.
He goes for notes Freddie never even attempted live... at 59 years old!
But Freddie wasn't about the perfect vocal performance, it was a show so...
A bit pointless to compare them, really, both extremely gifted and talented singers.
mike hunt · Member since
It's simple retards, freddie was a better vocalist for queen. Paul was a better vocalist for free and bad company, but IMO, Freddie was way more creative with his voice, and sang way more styles than paul. also more Original and praised. Paul did have more control over his live voice, but sings every song the same, while freddie sang a mixture of different styles, an example is "love of my life" then singing "sheer heart attack" Don't get insulted paul fans, it's just an opinion, or you could go back to the paul rodgers fan club where you belong.
thequeen · Member since
Paul Rodgers and the word "same" or "boring" go together very well!
This was NEVER the case with Freddie .....Paul Rodgers should've known better .
Not to mention Brian & Roger [img=/images/smiley/msn/angry_smile.gif][/img]
