another freddie thread, lol. I know why I enjoy most of Queens stuff, including a lot of the eighties. I simply love the sound of his voice. When I listen to some of the weaker stuff from the eighties I still like those songs. Example "I want to break free" usually I wouldn't like a simple pop song like that, but his voice does it for me, and brings the song up a notch. "my baby does me" usually I tend to hate these type of tunes, but again, freddie has a way about him. A night at the opera, news of the world, hot space are freddie's strongest in the studio. Live, it's 1979 to 1982. The magic tour his voice was much stronger, very powerful but lacked range. I personally love the majority of 86. Again, give me all the cracks in his voice you want, or lack of range in that year, but the sound of his voice makes up for it. Before anyone calls me a stepford, it's simply not true. Even his voice couldn't save body language and put out the fire, ect....... Most of Mr. Bad guy....... He must of been one brave fucker to release body language as a single. I don't think the other guys had much of a say in that. What freddie wanted, he got![/QUOTE]
Funny thing: Body Language was a HIT!
Amazon · Member since
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A night at the opera, news of the world, hot space are freddie's strongest in the studio.
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I think his strongest studio albums were Sheer Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera; with News of the World, Jazz, Hot Space, Innuendo and Made In Heaven coming close behind. The versatility, creativity and experimentation he displays on SHA was simply stunning, not to mention that by that stage, he had truly mastered his vocal gifts. The way I see it, he was very good (sometimes brilliant) on th first album, superb on the second album (the album IMO in which he truly came into his own), and then established himself as one of the greatest singers of all time on SHA and ANATO.
Wiley · Member since
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[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b]
Funny thing: Body Language was a HIT!
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That song has grown on me BIG TIME. I used to hate it but then I met a guy who was into Led Zep, The Who and Queen and the first thing he said about Queen was how much he loved "HOT SPACE" and how Body Language kicked ass.
I actually like that album a lot since it's the first studio album I ever got to hear (ADATR was the second, just minutes after) but I usually skipped Body Language.
As usual with other HS songs, the live version takes it to another level. It's not that different from the studio version but it has that additional "kick" that makes it even dirtier, hehe.
dragon-fly · Member since
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[b]Wiley wrote: [/b]
I used to hate it but then I met a guy who was into Led Zep, The Who and Queen and the first thing he said about Queen was how much he loved "HOT SPACE" and how Body Language kicked ass.
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That may be one of the most weird things I've heard :)
I still skip BL- shame on me.
Gregsynth · Member since
The live versions of the Hot Space songs are SO MUCH BETTER than the album versions.
Holly2003 · Member since
Nothing to add to the techincal aspects of this topic, but I'd like to say great thread Yara, and nice to see you active here again.
Wiley · Member since
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[b]Wiley wrote: [/b]
I used to hate it but then I met a guy who was into Led Zep, The Who and Queen and the first thing he said about Queen was how much he loved "HOT SPACE" and how Body Language kicked ass.
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That may be one of the most weird things I've heard :)
I still skip BL- shame on me. [/QUOTE]
Yup. I was very surprised to hear him say that. He went on to say what he liked about the song: the rythm, Fred's voice, the choruses, etc. I was SO surprised that I actually gave that song another chance.
It's not my favorite song - not even in that album's side- but I really enjoy it now... if I'm in the mood.
I just try not to think that Freddie surely wrote it thinking about men, haha :)
mike hunt · Member since
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[b]Wiley wrote: [/b]
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[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b]
Funny thing: Body Language was a HIT!
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That song has grown on me BIG TIME. I used to hate it but then I met a guy who was into Led Zep, The Who and Queen and the first thing he said about Queen was how much he loved "HOT SPACE" and how Body Language kicked ass.
I actually like that album a lot since it's the first studio album I ever got to hear (ADATR was the second, just minutes after) but I usually skipped Body Language.
As usual with other HS songs, the live version takes it to another level. It's not that different from the studio version but it has that additional "kick" that makes it even dirtier, hehe.
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I don't hate hot space by any means. Has it's moments for sure. I like his voice on every album, Made in heaven he sounded very strong on those songs. The first album I love the youthful sound of his voice, while Queen2 and SHA were great musically and vocally. Sheer heart attack should be on every all time best rock albums list, along with opera.
Wiley · Member since
Sorry to turn this into a Hot Space topic but I was just listening to it in my car thinking about how good it sounds. It is NOT Thriller, by any means, but if you don't see the similarities in style and some sounds here and there you must be deaf.
I listened to the first beats from "Dancer" and I remembered a comment from Michael Jackson about "Billie Jean". He wanted a simple beat with a very specific drum sound that would catch the listener in the first 2 seconds of the song.
Dancer is usually on most fan's "worst song" list but it's quite cool and it's one of the rockier tracks of the album.
Just ignore the fact that the lyrics are crap, that it is funk written by a white British 35 year old nerd that doesn't dance or seems to know the first thing about partying, haha :D
After the album's poor performance (for Queen standards) and the negative comments about their new style, they should have gone with a rockier Fourth Single. Something like Dancer b/w Put out the Fire or the other way around. Couldn't have done worse than Back Chat. Could it?
In my opinion Hot Space's sound and production doesn't seem half as dated as The Works or AKOM.
I guess I have my Hot Space goggles back on. :P
Wiley · Member since
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[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b]
The live versions of the Hot Space songs are SO MUCH BETTER than the album versions.[/QUOTE]
You know, I used to think that -like everybody else- but on a recent listen to the album, I think it sounds just about right.
Some songs could have used a slightly faster tempo and a few synth lines could be replaced by guitar riffs, but the overall mood of the album would have been altered.
It's good, clean fun, as it is.
mike hunt · Member since
Hot space is good clean fun, but it could have been much better. If the songs were a little heavier, Improve some of the lryics. The one thing the works and magic have that hot space doesn't?...legendary songs!...aside from under pressure that is. Hot space doesn't have a radio ga ga, I want to break free, hammer to fall, or it's a hard life. A kind of magic also has some stand out tunes that hot space doesn't come close to.
Unblinking Eye · Member since
Around 1980-1982 freddie was really good, and even in Live Aid he sounded better than in either the works or A kinda magic. I think Freddie pushed his voice much too hard, and payed for it. And though he was still very good, he decided to be a little bit of a macho guy and not use falsetto when he probably should've when he couldn't reach the high notes, because in actual fact, it probably would've sounded a little better than a) trying to push it and his voice breaking, b) not quite getting there and being a tiny bit off tune (something I can't stand in any singer), or c) doing a harmony, because its sounds kinda strange, if you know what I mean!! He wanted, I think more than his voice could actually give him, so he pushed it! But, funnily enough, on MIH his voice doesn't sound pushed hardly at all! And he was actually singing quite high. I know not much on this subject, but this is my impression! As a 13 year old who has been singing for two years, I'm not exactly in the position of an expert!
On Hotspace:
It has [b]some[/b] good songs on it. I only like Under Pressure live, because I can't stand David Bowie, and for those of you who like body language, sorry, but YUK! It is, as some people have said, very Michael Jackson like, so thats probably why I can't stand most of it! Staying Power, Backchat, Calling all girls and Action this day and Under Pressure (live) are the only songs I can stand on this album! But then again, I'm not a huge fan of their 80's stuff (excluding the game) but its ok, and some of it is excellent e.g Radio Ga Ga, Is this the world we created, I want to break free, A kinda magic etc. but its just not up to the caliber of their 70's stuff, and some of Innuendo and MIH (excluding you don't fool me, yurch!). The best thing about Hot Space was Freddie's voice. His vocal range and power was excellent, with clear, articulate, sharp notes, with no pushing of the voice. Overall, Hot Space is probably my 2nd least favourite album, with Queen II being my least favourite but thats completely off subject!
Gregsynth · Member since
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[b]Unblinking Eye wrote: [/b]
Around 1980-1982 freddie was really good, and even in Live Aid he sounded better than in either the works or A kinda magic. I think Freddie pushed his voice much too hard, and payed for it. And though he was still very good, he decided to be a little bit of a macho guy and not use falsetto when he probably should've when he couldn't reach the high notes, because in actual fact, it probably would've sounded a little better than a) trying to push it and his voice breaking, b) not quite getting there and being a tiny bit off tune (something I can't stand in any singer), or c) doing a harmony, because its sounds kinda strange, if you know what I mean!! He wanted, I think more than his voice could actually give him, so he pushed it! But, funnily enough, on MIH his voice doesn't sound pushed hardly at all! And he was actually singing quite high. I know not much on this subject, but this is my impression! As a 13 year old who has been singing for two years, I'm not exactly in the position of an expert!
On Hotspace: It has [b]some[/b] good songs on it. I only like Under Pressure live, because I can't stand David Bowie, and for those of you who like body language, sorry, but YUK! It is, as some people have said, very Michael Jackson like, so thats probably why I can't stand most of it! Staying Power, Backchat, Calling all girls and Action this day and Under Pressure (live) are the only songs I can stand on this album! But then again, I'm not a huge fan of their 80's stuff (excluding the game) but its ok, and some of it is excellent e.g Radio Ga Ga, Is this the world we created, I want to break free, A kinda magic etc. but its just not up to the caliber of their 70's stuff, and some of Innuendo and MIH (excluding you don't fool me, yurch!). The best thing about Hot Space was Freddie's voice. His vocal range and power was excellent, with clear, articulate, sharp notes, with no pushing of the voice. Overall, Hot Space is probably my 2nd least favourite album, with Queen II being my least favourite but thats completely off subject! [/QUOTE] I've always wondered why Freddie rarely sang falsetto on his songs: Was it because he disliked the sound in general, or because he wanted to be "macho Freddie" and full-voice every thing?
steven 35638 · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
Hot space is good clean fun, but it could have been much better. If the songs were a little heavier, Improve some of the lryics. The one thing the works and magic have that hot space doesn't?...legendary songs!...aside from under pressure that is. Hot space doesn't have a radio ga ga, I want to break free, hammer to fall, or it's a hard life. A kind of magic also has some stand out tunes that hot space doesn't come close to.
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I would argue that Las Palabras De Amor is a legendary song that stands up very well next to the other songs you listed. Beautiful lyrics, melody, and harmonies. A heart stopping love ballad. As far as I'm concerned, Hot Space was the last great Queen album, with the exception of Innuendo. The band was still being very innovative during the Hot Space sessions -- dance, disco, spanish ballad, a collaboration with another one of rock's greats, and even reggae. It was unique.
Unblinking Eye · Member since
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[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b]
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[b]Unblinking Eye wrote: [/b]
Around 1980-1982 freddie was really good, and even in Live Aid he sounded better than in either the works or A kinda magic. I think Freddie pushed his voice much too hard, and payed for it. And though he was still very good, he decided to be a little bit of a macho guy and not use falsetto when he probably should've when he couldn't reach the high notes, because in actual fact, it probably would've sounded a little better than a) trying to push it and his voice breaking, b) not quite getting there and being a tiny bit off tune (something I can't stand in any singer), or c) doing a harmony, because its sounds kinda strange, if you know what I mean!! He wanted, I think more than his voice could actually give him, so he pushed it! But, funnily enough, on MIH his voice doesn't sound pushed hardly at all! And he was actually singing quite high. I know not much on this subject, but this is my impression! As a 13 year old who has been singing for two years, I'm not exactly in the position of an expert!
On Hotspace:
It has [b]some[/b] good songs on it. I only like Under Pressure live, because I can't stand David Bowie, and for those of you who like body language, sorry, but YUK! It is, as some people have said, very Michael Jackson like, so thats probably why I can't stand most of it! Staying Power, Backchat, Calling all girls and Action this day and Under Pressure (live) are the only songs I can stand on this album! But then again, I'm not a huge fan of their 80's stuff (excluding the game) but its ok, and some of it is excellent e.g Radio Ga Ga, Is this the world we created, I want to break free, A kinda magic etc. but its just not up to the caliber of their 70's stuff, and some of Innuendo and MIH (excluding you don't fool me, yurch!). The best thing about Hot Space was Freddie's voice. His vocal range and power was excellent, with clear, articulate, sharp notes, with no pushing of the voice. Overall, Hot Space is probably my 2nd least favourite album, with Queen II being my least favourite but thats completely off subject!
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I've always wondered why Freddie rarely sang falsetto on his songs: Was it because he disliked the sound in general, or because he wanted to be "macho Freddie" and full-voice every thing?
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Its because he wanted to be macho freddie. If you listen to some earlier live performance (70's), he uses falsetto more than he did in the eighties. He only sang falsetto if he absolutely had too, because I think that people gave him the impression that if he used falsetto, he was a weak singer and performer, which he was not, and it often would have sounded better if he had used falsetto on the songs that have it on the album e.g. Somebody to love, he should've used falsetto, but didn't live, because it would have made him sound like he was weak or something to the audience. Myself I love the sound of falsetto, its very beautiful, and I have no idea why people think he was weak if he used falsetto. Stupid People!!!
