Q&PR officially over.

I don't know.. it all feels kinda strange. I mean, once they had decided to start a tour in 2005, record a studio album and enterprain a new tour in 2008... this all looked like part of a growing (and increasing) joint-venture between the three musicians.
Something must have happened along the way (I don't think they took all it day by day): maybe Paul did not feel he had been fully accepted by the audience, maybe he realised that his personal contribution to the whole Queen+PR project would have always place him in the backstage of people's attention, or maybe something just went wrong during the tour (which was, as far as I know, pretty much succesful in terms of sells).

I would have expected, in facts, that they had taken a pause, considering TCR just like a 'warm-up' record before trying new experiments.. and I guess that the absence of comments from Brian and Roger reveals they were not really prepared to such a clear 'cut' from Paul. His declaration, nevertheless does not leave much space to retractations, I believe.

For all who now are enjoying Paul's departure I'd just say that this will simply make Brian & Roger's return (on stage or with an album) less likely. And this is sad in any case.

Roy.

Completely agree with all your points there Roy. It is a strange one. I do think this statement has taken Brian by surprise. The silence is defening.

SPEAK UP BRIAN

I also do think something has happened,  i reckon it happened early on in the 2008 tour. I sensed friction and an uncomfortable feeling on Pauls part during the whole tour. There was a distinct lack of 'togetherness'.

I guess we'll never know

It's probably the fact that more people were cheering for the dead guy who wasn't even on stage than they were for Paul Rodgers.
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Brian's been very quiet for a long time though, not just about this.  He used to post much more often then he does now.  i know there are times when he doesn't post much, but his silence is going on and on, except for the odd wierd comment.  The thing about the Flash retrospective was short, before that it was a photo and before that it was a wierd and distinctly un-Brian like long post about the free album in the Mail.  And he did not sound like himself at all in that. 



Why, oh why are they not saying anything?

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It's probably the fact that more people were cheering for the dead guy who wasn't even on stage than they were for Paul Rodgers.
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I must admit to finding your first statement very harsh but also very true in most cases reflecting on the last tour.  I still feel that the majority widely appreciated Paul's contribution (he still is an outstanding performer in his own unique way) but to the long standing Queen fan they will always have that rapport with Freddie that just will never die.

actually they are seem quiet

paul's website has nothing about it-and it is always promoting him, him in interviews or on magazines

brian has said nothing

roger well roger doesnt say much period  *LOL*

official sites have said nada

so who knows......

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Makka, you're absolutely right, but Tom Staffel struggled with vocals when he was IN Smile and gigging.  Now he's been out of the loop for a while, he's hardly going to have improved with age.

I'd like to see the reformation of The Cross in all honesty - a really gritty band with some quality material - better than ANYTHING Queen delivered from '84 - '90.  EMI were scared that Roger would make the band a success and withdrew finance, hence their demise.  Understandable but somewhat laughable given subsequent events.

Brian could then happily while away the hours gazing into the sky and banging on about orchids and stereo pictures.......sitting in the corner, bouncing a ball and dribbling from the side of his mouth, wondering why he didn;t do that solo electric blues album......[/QUOTE]

Tim Staffell did have a solo album if you want to hear how his voice has changed.  There are videos of re-recorded Smile tracks on youtube: Doin' Alright and Earth. 

I happen to think he was a good singer, though I have no idea how good he is live.

Togg, for what it's worth, it was a statatement of fact.

Hope that helps.

Just checked out the Tim/Brian songs on Youtube you mentioned and must admit to not being impressed too much by Tim's vocals - sounds reasonably fine but comes across as a poor mans Paul Rodgers to me.

Exactly Hitman - remember that, at that point, Rogers was THE voice of British blues-rock - no one sounded like him or had come close before and he was widely admired across the board.  Smile attempted to get on the bandwagon because ordinary working class guys like Rogers had made a success of performing.  Staffel did a reasonable job I guess at the time, but I have no doubt that the shows would be a commercial failure should Smile re-form for anything other than a couple of hundred people somewhere.

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Exactly Hitman - remember that, at that point, Rogers was THE voice of British blues-rock - no one sounded like him or had come close before and he was widely admired across the board.  Smile attempted to get on the bandwagon because ordinary working class guys like Rogers had made a success of performing.  Staffel did a reasonable job I guess at the time, but I have no doubt that the shows would be a commercial failure should Smile re-form for anything other than a couple of hundred people somewhere.[/QUOTE]

It makes for a very interesting insight in to what would have probably happened if Freddie hadn't come along when he did.  Queen are very much a sum of the equal parts.  In a similar way I don't think Freddie would have made it as big on his own and needed the assistance of Brian, Roger and John to really make what became the unique sound and output of Queen.  It makes sense how Paul's voice fits in with the music of Queen when you compare both their musical heritage and development over the years.  Looking for another singer to fit in with this history and musical output seems a bit to much to ask for and it makes you realise just how hard a job it has been for Paul over recent years.

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Exactly Hitman - remember that, at that point, Rogers was THE voice of British blues-rock - no one sounded like him or had come close before and he was widely admired across the board.  Smile attempted to get on the bandwagon because ordinary working class guys like Rogers had made a success of performing.  Staffel did a reasonable job I guess at the time, but I have no doubt that the shows would be a commercial failure should Smile re-form for anything other than a couple of hundred people somewhere.[/QUOTE]
Yeah here's the other thing: Smile would NEVER get the huge audiences Queen are accustomed to, because no-one knew about them outside of the Queen fan circles. They just wouldn't sell that big.

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Exactly Hitman - remember that, at that point, Rogers was THE voice of British blues-rock - no one sounded like him or had come close before and he was widely admired across the board.  Smile attempted to get on the bandwagon because ordinary working class guys like Rogers had made a success of performing.  Staffel did a reasonable job I guess at the time, but I have no doubt that the shows would be a commercial failure should Smile re-form for anything other than a couple of hundred people somewhere.

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But would it have to be for money? Why not just for the heck of it, like what music is about!

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Exactly Hitman - remember that, at that point, Rogers was THE voice of British blues-rock - no one sounded like him or had come close before and he was widely admired across the board.  Smile attempted to get on the bandwagon because ordinary working class guys like Rogers had made a success of performing.  Staffel did a reasonable job I guess at the time, but I have no doubt that the shows would be a commercial failure should Smile re-form for anything other than a couple of hundred people somewhere.





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It should be. But keep in mind, Tim himself is not really keen on getting back into music fulltime either, despite making that Amigos album some time ago which Brian guested on, from what I understand.

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Exactly Hitman - remember that, at that point, Rogers was THE voice of British blues-rock - no one sounded like him or had come close before and he was widely admired across the board.  Smile attempted to get on the bandwagon because ordinary working class guys like Rogers had made a success of performing.  Staffel did a reasonable job I guess at the time, but I have no doubt that the shows would be a commercial failure should Smile re-form for anything other than a couple of hundred people somewhere.



 

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As a one off maybe but as a full blown tour I couldn't personally see this working.  I don't think either Roger or Brian would be up for it either.  Queen music has always been about having a large ish or larger audiences to bounce the material off.  I can remember having a very interesting experience attending a very small Cross concert - it was very good but just not the same at all to the Queen events I've attended.  I'm not so sure that so many people would be up for this kind of event now.  Queen as Brian and Roger would fit city hall type venues but Smile events I feel wouldn't even fill this middle to small type of venue. Just my opinion.