"I Can't Get You Out Of My Head" written by Clayton Moss
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YourValentine · Member since
Years ago the song leaked to the public as a demo sung by Roger Taylor but now we see that it was actually written by Cross member Clayton Moss who included it in his recently released 7digital album. So, the demo was obviously not a Strange Frontier outtake as many of us believed.
Thank you, Barb, it was very interesting. Further evidence in favour of 'don't believe all you read in the net'.
Pim Derks · Member since
Nice to finally have some confirmation on this. I still don't really believe that 'Celebration' was a Strange Frontier track either.
Pim Derks · Member since
Boy oh boy...
I've heard some bad stuff - but the samples from Clayton's album are way up there... It's kinda sad that almost 20 years later he's releasing an album titled 'The Cross Section'. It's not like The Cross had a huuuuge following which will buy this album.
But at least it's kept him off the streets for a couple of days.
last-horizon 42265 · Member since
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UGzvuA1bLE
YourValentine · Member since
Thanks for the link, so it's rather old news :-) I asked Josh Macrae on facebook about "Celebration" a while ago and he said it's a Cross song, the idea came initially from Peter Noone.
Pim Derks · Member since
I wonder why John S. Stuart kept insisting that Celebration was on a Strange Frontier acetate then...?
Negative Creep · Member since
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[b]Pim Derks wrote: [/b]
I wonder why John S. Stuart kept insisting that Celebration was on a Strange Frontier acetate then...?
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Very interesting!!
YourValentine · Member since
I don't remember that he said "acetate". Probably he has a demo tape that he bought and that was labelled as SF sessions.
I have a "SF session" folder on my ancient first hard drive that contained both "Celebration" and "Can't Get You Out Of My Head", so who confused what is everyone's guess.
I wonder why John S. Stuart kept insisting that Celebration was on a Strange Frontier acetate then...?
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Good spot Barbara.
I just downloaded the 'Moss Cross album', and for me too, this creates more questions than answers, but here is all the information I have at hand. I would be very interested in reading any other thoughts or opinions. (Are you there Clayton?).
[b]First[/b]: Here is the track listing from “[i]Strange Frontier[/i]” acetates purchased around 1986.
(That’s two years [i][b]before[/b][/i] the debut 1986 Cross album – and two years [b][i]after[/i][/b] the 1984 release of “[i]Strange Frontier[/i]”):
Although the tracks below are conveniently listed in the same running order as the official LP, the actual banding (track order) is different, (I will have to play the disc to recall the acetate running order) and while some tracks are identical to the released version, other tracks like - [i]“Strange Frontier”[/i] have alternative mixes – which I have not found elsewhere.
[b]
Roger Taylor: Strange Frontier[/b]
(From the released LP sleeve notes)
[i]Abandon Fire[/i] composed by Roger Taylor & David Richards
[i]It's An Illusion [/i]composed by Roger Taylor & Rick Parfitt
[i]Racing In The Streets[/i] composed by Bruce Springsteen
[i]Masters Of War [/i]composed by Bob Dylan
John Deacon & Rick Parfitt on [i]It's An Illusion[/i] -
Freddie Mercury on [i]Killing Time [/i]
[i]Strange Frontier[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 4:07 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Beautiful Dreams[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 4:16 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Man On Fire[/i] (Edited by JSS: [b]NOT[/b] on acetate)
[i]Racing In The Street[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 4:17 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Masters Of War[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 3:40 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Killing Time[/i] (Edited by JSS: [b]NOT[/b] on acetate)
[i]Abandon Fire[/i] (Edited by JSS: [b]NOT[/b] on acetate)
[i]Young Love[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 3:16 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]It's An Illusion[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 4:00 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]I Cry For You[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 4:06 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Two Sharp Pencils[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 3:19 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc
Acetate Studio Master Fast 2:52 Mix Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Keep On Running [/i]
Acetate Studio Master 2:58 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]I Want To Take You Higher [/i]
Acetate Studio Master 3:19 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]Celebration [/i]
Acetate Studio Master 5:11 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]I Can't Get You Out Of My Head[/i]
Acetate Studio Master 3:36 Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
[i]
I Can Take You Higher [/i]
Acetate Studio Master (“40 End Edit) Unreleased: Home Mini Disc
We know two tracks on the album were cover versions: Bruce Springsteen's [i]"Racing In The Streets"[/i], and Bob Dylan's [i]"Masters of War[/i]", while another cover, Spencer Davis' "[i]Keep On Running"[/i] was also recorded, but not released.
Why then, is it unlikely that further cover/collaborative material could have been worked on?
I honestly do not know who wrote "[i]I Can’t Get You Out Of My Head"[/i], “[i]I Can Take You Higher”[/i] or [i]"Celebration", [/i]therefore, I have never argued that they were original Roger Taylor compositions. All I have argued is that versions exist from the 1984 [i]“Strange Frontier”[/i] sessions, and we all have the (demo) evidence to support this.
The fact in itself that they were [b]not[/b] written by Roger (as we have already seen) does [b]not[/b] demonstrate versions of these tracks were not kicking around earlier – or that they were not ‘conceived’ during the time of the "[i]Strange[/i] [i]Frontier[/i]" sessions.
So for me the real question is not [b]who[/b] - but [b]when[/b] they were originally recorded?
[b]Second[/b]: After listening to the ‘demo’ version against the ‘downloaded', version – they do sound like two different takes – if not completely different tracks. So, which came first?
Are these downloads 'genuine' Cross demos – as ‘covered’ by Roger Taylor – or are these downloads ‘modern Moss remixes’ (or remakes) even if based on original tapes?
Certainly the Roger Taylor versions sound more ‘demoish’, and the downloads more contemporary, but this may be due to to the download's better/higher sound quality - rather than age.
[b]The truth is - I do not know.[/b]
Perhaps “[i]I Can’t Get You Out Of My Head[/i]” is one of those crossover songs. (i.e: late Roger Taylor – but early Cross). The same can be said of [i]“Killing Time”[/i], and [i]“Heaven For Everyone” [/i]which (as we all know were Roger Taylor/Queen crossovers).
Nevertheless, The fact remains, a version of this track was available a full two years before any release - and that is as much a mystery to me as it is to everyone else.
[b]Finally[/b]: This is the first time I have heard a studio (rather than live) version of "[i]Let's Get Drunk', [/i]and I think the first non-Roger vocals of [i]"Penetration Guru".[/i] They are nice to compare against the released versions - but are we sure these are genuine demos - rather than Clayton Moss covers or make-overs?
YourValentine · Member since
Okay - this gets more and more mysterious. I'll send Clayton Moss a link to this thread, maybe he can shed some light on it. He did not claim to have written "Can't Get...." - there are no writer credits on the 7digital site, I only assumed it because he wrote Penetration Guru, Better Things and Ain't Put Nothing Down - the 3 Cross songs on the new album.
I think that the songs on "Cross Sections" are new takes, it's a very recent album.
Pim Derks · Member since
Maybe it's better to edit out my comments on his songs before sending him this link if we want him to react :D
John S Stuart · Member since
[b]Strange Frontier[/b]
(2 x one-sided acetates)
No sleeve notes or markings other than "Roger Taylor" written by hand (not his).
[i]Strange Frontier
Beautiful Dreams
It's An Illusion
Racing In The Streets
Master's Of War
I Cry For You
I Want To Take You Higher
Keep On Running
Two Sharp Pencils
Young Love
I Can Take You Higher (edit)
Celebration
I Can't Get You Out Of My Head
Two Sharp Pencils (Fast Version)[/i]
[b]Just noticed[/b]: [i]'Man On Fire', 'Killing Time' [/i]and [i]'Abandon Fire' [/i]are all [b]missing[/b] from this set -
[b][i]yet,[/i][i] [/i][/b][i]'I Want To Take You Higher', 'Keep On Running', 'Two Sharp Pencils', 'Celebration', 'I Can't Get You Out Of My Head',[/i] and [i]'I Can Take You Higher[/i]' are all on the second disc. (Edited above accordingly).
Don't ask me how - it just is.
I always presumed they were twin discs. Perhaps they are not. Remember, I too would like to know for a certainty.
Perhaps one acetate really is a Roger Taylor solo disc - and the other acetate is of the Cross, but then again, why would [i]'Keep On Running' [/i]and [i]'Two Sharp Pencils' [/i]appear on a Cross disc?
To compound all this, somewhere in between the two discs, Roger Taylor cut his 'Olympic Theme'.
It just seems the waters get murkier and murkier...
inu-liger · Member since
John, I want to ask you, that YouTube video linked here a while ago which purports to have a 2 minute-ish clip of Roger's Olympic Theme, do you know if that's the real deal or not??
