ANNOUNCE: Queen 29.08.1980 Montreal LOSSLESS MASTER

The version that was shared in Bokkepoot's 1980 torrent doesn't include lineage.
So I thought it would be nice to share this one.

Queen
29-08-1980
Montreal
Canada

Tracks:
01. We Will Rock You (Fast)
02. Let Me Entertain You
03. Play The Game
04. Mustapha
05. Death On Two Legs
06. Killer Queen
07. I'm In Love With My Car
08. Get Down Make Love
09. You're My Best Friend
10. Save Me
11. Need Your Loving Tonight
12. Now I'm Here
13. Dragon Attack
14. Now I'm Here (Reprise)
15. Fat Bottomed Girls
16. Love Of My Life
17. Keep Yourself Alive
18. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
19. Bohemian Rhapsody
20. Another One Bites The Dust 

[b]Lineage:
[/b]AUD > Master Cassette > WAV > CDR (1) > WAV > Cool Edit Pro (hiss reduction) > CDR (0)

Don't convert to MP3 (unless it's for personal use)
When you are trading this recording: always include lineage!

Thanks to the original taper for taping this and thanks to Bob (sir GH) for tracking down this recording! 

[b]More info:[/b]
[url=http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/80-08-29.htm]http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/80-08-29.htm[/url]

[b]Links[/b]
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?4t3kfdocimh]http://www.mediafire.com/?4t3kfdocimh[/url]
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Great!

Thank you Very Much!

You did mean Queen 29.08.1980 Montreal LOSSLESS MASTER

Thank You VERY MUCH Ducksoup !!!!

Cheers

Thank You!!
[img=/images/smiley/msn/lightbulb.gif][/img] great to see recordings with confirmed lineage

Thank you very much!

Thanks a lot dear Dennis !! Really nice !


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.

The bokkerpot's share you refer to is identical with the maggiko foka's post from four months ago. You will find lineage and an extensive discussion there.
So the lossless master is available both at rapidshare and as torrent.
A lossless share is always welcomed but what has your version different, except the track splitting ?

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[b]aristide1 wrote: [/b]

The bokkerpot's share you refer to is identical with the maggiko foka's post from four months ago. You will find lineage and an extensive discussion there.
So the lossless master is available both at rapidshare and as torrent.
A lossless share is always welcomed but what has your version different, except the track splitting ?
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Maggiko Foka's version had been retracked and Save Me had been removed from the share. Sir GH was kind enough to supply his version of Save Me but that, of course, came from the un-retracked version. This is problematic as you effectively have a concert which is a hybrid of two sources - one of which has no definitively known lineage. We can not say for sure what the lineage of MF's share was because if it's been retracked then who knows what else has happened to it.

This is for certain a better share as it (presumably) comes from one source with a definitive lineage.

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[b]Farrokh The Great wrote: [/b]

You did mean Queen 29.08.1980 Montreal LOSSLESS MASTER

Thank You VERY MUCH Ducksoup !!!!

Cheers[/QUOTE]
Ah yes. You're right! It's corrected now.

I see it is one inch closer to the source, at least in credentials if not in audio quality.

However, if a hiss reduction is applied, would not be appropriate to label it REMASTER, and save the MASTER label for the flat transfer of the tape ?

A hiss reduction, even a nicely done one as in this case, is a subjective treatment from the category of "who knows what else has happened to it" as Tim say.

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[b]aristide1 wrote: [/b]

I see it is one inch closer to the source, at least in credentials if not in audio quality.

However, if a hiss reduction is applied, would not be appropriate to label it REMASTER, and save the MASTER label for the flat transfer of the tape ?

A hiss reduction, even a nicely done one as in this case, is a subjective treatment from the category of "who knows what else has happened to it" as Tim say.
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Yup, you're probably right. However, as Sir GH points out on his site, this is one of the very rare occasions where a hiss reduction actually makes a recording sound better - much better in fact.

Does the raw master still exist?

I do have the master from the taper, but honestly, the tape hiss is brutally bad.

So indeed, the title "lossless master" is misleading, because it's not the master copy.  Even if it wasn't hiss reduced, it still wouldn't be the master, as it's a digital copy of it... hence the need for lineage.

This "master", "first gen", "second gen" lingo has to go.  What are we referring to - cassettes, DAT, reels?  This is why lineage is so important, not the convenience of using few words.

Indeed. Lineage is important. The term "lossless master" is used only as a quick reference in the title of this topic so that people can see with one blink of the eye wether they are interested in a download or not.
Full details can be found in the lineage wich is included (and should always be included). That's why I started this topic in the first place.

Fair play.