personally, fred's voice was the best during the middle 70's, "opera" to "the game". beyond that his vocals seem almost secondary. Not to say they are any less potent, but they just don't seem as powerful or produced as his later stuff
mike hunt · Member since
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Sure, he was in his prime around the Hot Space album, and he was dying during Innuendo. I think the odds were work in favor of Hot Space.
That said, I would much rather listen to his dying voice on good songs rather than his great voice on bad songs. Mr. Bad Guy may have his best voice, but I can't bear to listen to it to find out.
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Very good point: the song matters a lot. A brilliant voice can be misspent on a shite song.
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shit songs of course is a matter of opinion. hot space isn't shit IMO, but isn't vintage Queen either.
Mr. bad guy does have some of freds strongest vocals, but IMO most of the songs are shit, lol.
mike hunt · Member since
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Sorry, hate on me if you want...Innuendo was by far some of my favorite singing. No question he was in fine shape for Hot Space, but by the time Innuendo came around, he may have been dying, but even Brian May said he just got better and better. [/QUOTE]
lol, why would anyone hate on you?....Innuendo does have some great vocals, the show must go on is a brilliant performance.
The Real Wizard · Member since
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That said, I would much rather listen to his dying voice on good songs rather than his great voice on bad songs. Mr. Bad Guy may have his best voice, but I can't bear to listen to it to find out.
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Then the piano demos of those songs on the boxed set are essential listening.
Micrówave · Member since
Yeah, doxonrox, Hot Space is shit. Ok, dude.
Perhaps you could give us all an example of a better piece of falsetto singing than Cool Cat.
I won't even limit you to Freddie. Pick anyone. Any song. That is if you even recognize the talent involved in falsetto. You're probably one of those guys that makes Aaron Neville jokes, even mixes in some goiter humor. C'mon man, you're a broken record. You keep being Mr. Classic Rock guy... maybe Boston will make another album for you.
doxonrox · Member since
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Yeah, doxonrox, Hot Space is shit. Ok, dude.
Perhaps you could give us all an example of a better piece of falsetto singing than Cool Cat.
I won't even limit you to Freddie. Pick anyone. Any song. That is if you even recognize the talent involved in falsetto. You're probably one of those guys that makes Aaron Neville jokes, even mixes in some goiter humor. C'mon man, you're a broken record. You keep being Mr. Classic Rock guy... maybe Boston will make another album for you.
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Whoah, Micro. I didn't say shit songs - just bad. Relax, pal. It wasn't a personal attack.
As far as your challenge, I present as evidence of better falsetto (drum roll please....) [b]Exercises in Free Love![/b] What do I win???
Hey, I agreed that his voice was great on that album. You know what's weird? Cool Cat came on my iPod on the way home! I listened to about half of it, and he does indeed sing great on that track. But the song? It's just OK - banal lyrics and nothing to really sink your teeth into.
Innuendo benefits greatly from the emotional connection of the songs. Don't Try So Hard isn't the greatest song written, but I find it far more listenable than most of their 80's stuff. The Show Must Go On isn't the most original chord progression in the world, but good lord does it strike a chord due to the circumstances surrounding the it.
Queen could always put a good song out there, but injecting heart felt meaning into a song wasn't their strong point. The writing on Innuendo, coupled with a man singing with his last ounce of life, gives it a very unique and emotional quality. What a pity that it took a tragedy to create it, but such is the beauty of the record.
Now go throw on Dancer and Back Chat, shake your ass, and chill out!
mike hunt · Member since
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Yeah, doxonrox, Hot Space is shit. Ok, dude.
Perhaps you could give us all an example of a better piece of falsetto singing than Cool Cat.
I won't even limit you to Freddie. Pick anyone. Any song. That is if you even recognize the talent involved in falsetto. You're probably one of those guys that makes Aaron Neville jokes, even mixes in some goiter humor. C'mon man, you're a broken record. You keep being Mr. Classic Rock guy... maybe Boston will make another album for you.
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Whoah, Micro. I didn't say shit songs - just bad. Relax, pal. It wasn't a personal attack.
As far as your challenge, I present as evidence of better falsetto (drum roll please....) [b]Exercises in Free Love![/b] What do I win???
Hey, I agreed that his voice was great on that album. You know what's weird? Cool Cat came on my iPod on the way home! I listened to about half of it, and he does indeed sing great on that track. But the song? It's just OK - banal lyrics and nothing to really sink your teeth into.
Innuendo benefits greatly from the emotional connection of the songs. Don't Try So Hard isn't the greatest song written, but I find it far more listenable than most of their 80's stuff. The Show Must Go On isn't the most original chord progression in the world, but good lord does it strike a chord due to the circumstances surrounding the it.
Queen could always put a good song out there, but injecting heart felt meaning into a song wasn't their strong point. The writing on Innuendo, coupled with a man singing with his last ounce of life, gives it a very unique and emotional quality. What a pity that it took a tragedy to create it, but such is the beauty of the record.
Now go throw on Dancer and Back Chat, shake your ass, and chill out!
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it's all opinions, I used to hate cool cat, but now it's one of my favorites..... The vocals are amazing to say the least. The music has a laid back cool sound to it. I like it. I'm sure you mean heart felt lryics, and I agree. Innuendo makes up for all those years of making silly (sometimes intentional) lryics. Don't try so hard is a real gem, and excercise in free love is one of my all time favorites.
mike hunt · Member since
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That said, I would much rather listen to his dying voice on good songs rather than his great voice on bad songs. Mr. Bad Guy may have his best voice, but I can't bear to listen to it to find out.
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Then the piano demos of those songs on the boxed set are essential listening.
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I wish I had that boxset, but waiting until the price goes down. I Heard most of the samples at least.
7Innuendo7 · Member since
Hot Space overall sounds better on vocals -- Under Pressure is brilliant through and through, I agree with many of the previous posts -- but the songwriting is better on the Innuendo album, altho Delilah might benefit from some Hot Space funk ;)
i-Fred · Member since
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I think Freds voice was very strong on Innuendo. Unfortunately he was singing like there was no tomorrow which obviously, for him, there wasn´t. Despite some fine performances I think you can still hear the illness in his voice. Hot Space was a more healthy and youthful Fred close to peak of his powers. If I had to choose a period I would say that Jazz through to Space was is purple patch. Just listen to DUST, the brilliant performance on DON´T STOP ME or STAYING POWER to name a few. Also his best live performances come from this period. [/QUOTE]
sorry Bigfish, you didn't spell "his" correctly. You left out the H. I wont say where it is. You can find that out.
such a shame...
i-Fred · Member since
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By The Works and subsequent tour he was passed his best.Of course he was on the Fags by then. No pun intended.[/QUOTE]
was pretty good in live Aid.....
john bodega · Member since
Cool Cat is a great piece of work, vocally. If it weren't for "Pain is so Close to Pleasure" I'd say it's an avenue he should've explored further.
mike hunt · Member since
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Cool Cat is a great piece of work, vocally. If it weren't for "Pain is so Close to Pleasure" I'd say it's an avenue he should've explored further.[/QUOTE]
even musically it's cool, I like the song. Vocally brilliant, and 'pain is so close to pleasure' I agree with you. It should have never been released on a Queen album.
Bigfish · Member since
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[b]Bigfish wrote: [/b]
I think Freds voice was very strong on Innuendo. Unfortunately he was singing like there was no tomorrow which obviously, for him, there wasn´t. Despite some fine performances I think you can still hear the illness in his voice. Hot Space was a more healthy and youthful Fred close to peak of his powers. If I had to choose a period I would say that Jazz through to Space was is purple patch. Just listen to DUST, the brilliant performance on DON´T STOP ME or STAYING POWER to name a few. Also his best live performances come from this period.
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sorry Bigfish, you didn't spell "his" correctly. You left out the H. I wont say where it is. You can find that out.
such a shame...
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1st certificate in a year - hm, I´m not so sure now. By the way, what IS your native language ? you never told me. I can manage Spanish or Japanese if that´s any help.
Honestly. "wont" - now that is obviously two words abbreviated from "will not" so you need a coma. It should be "won´t" ok ? Still quite a few punctuation errors too - I don´t know where to start really.
By the way, any luck on the girlfriend front yet ? Might be a few like-minded ones on that Radiohead site I mentioned.
Bigfish · Member since
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By The Works and subsequent tour he was passed his best.Of course he was on the Fags by then. No pun intended.
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was pretty good in live Aid.....
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Yes, one off show. Gave it all for 20 mins, no need to save his voice, outside of punishing tour, a gram of coke, half a bottle of Stoli and Robert is your Dads brother....
I was offered a ticket for Live Aid. I said no. I had to work. (stupid boy).
