The Sun City Sound , Good Mix/Bad Mix/Performance?
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City-in-the-Sun · Member since
Thanks Guys for all the comments ,
Lets start Talking on there Performace ,Without there Great skill and talant, and tightnes in the band, which time had done naturally for them over many years , a glory to Behold. and seldom captured in live music these days .
Boy this concert Gets Better every day,i think a much better mix than the festivals and live music live Broadcast mix you get nowdays which is so COMPRESSEDDD it does not sound real anymore,yes more compression
the Greater the experiance ,comon lets get the sound back to normal??
and get Heart and Soul back into our music..[img=/images/smiley/msn/regular_smile.gif][/img]
Saint Jiub · Member since
I like how easy it is to distinctly hear John's bass.
I am not a musician, and I do not have a good idea of what compression means so i had to google it ...
Now that I have some idea of what compression is, I can tell that I would generally not like it, as I would not likely hear the distinct sounds of the music.
It seems to me that compression would be the antithesis of Queen, as the various sounds in their music, particularly in the 70's are almost always distinctly heard.
on my way up · Member since
I was completely blown away by this performance, to be honest. 1984 is certainly not the best year for Queen live but here they have all the enthusiasm they need to play an extraordinary performance. Freddie's voice is in great shape and he also uses it to its maximum. He sings with guts and creativity. For example: he sings a great version of 'Killer Queen', with lots of passion.
And then of course there are the surprises, like that jam before It's a hard life, the March of the black Queen/ My fairy king reference, the great jam between Dragon attack and Now I'm here.
When hearing the sample of 'I want to break free' I was really surprised by the way Freddie sang the last line before the guitar solo.
pittrek · Member since
I love it, honestly.
It's definitely not what I've expected. I've expected to hear a very nervous band, giving a very nervous performance. Instead of it we got one of the best 1984 recordings !
The improvisation is a nice welcoem little surprise, and I can't wait to hear a complete recording :)
Anyway, the absence of the audience is not that good, but at least we have a proper recording of the action on stage
brians wig · Member since
I think it's great that the recording has a very limited volume audience on it - it's great to hear the band without anything else drowning them out.
I hope Anthony posts the rest of this gig as this has given me the biggest buzz I've had in years.
Thanks Anthony, you're making many people VERY happy and you've given us something far superior than Queen themselves have given us for a long time!
koldweather123 · Member since
Its a very good concert indeed from the first half of what we've heard. It doesn't shock me that the band are solid after the European leg of the Works tour but Freddie's voice was a lot more surprising. I'd always assumed that given he had to stop one of the concerts due to his vocal problems and yet there isn't even a trace of those issues in this concerts. Indeed to me he sounds like he would at the start of a tour and goes for notes very similar to the start of the Works tour (eg Seven Seas of Rhye, Somebody to Love)
Then you have the improvs they do, this is one of the best concerts they ever did in that respect from what I've heard. A stunning March Of The Black Queen and My Fairy King piano improvisation (IMO the best they did) the very long jam they did before Its a Hard Life and also the usual jam between Dragon Attack and Now I'm Here is also very good.
The Real Wizard · Member since
The performance gives an insight to a part of their career that was previous undocumented. They play with guts, as they have something to prove in new territory... something they hadn't done in 3 years.
This is by far the best Queen-related recording to come out since the Live At The Bowl DVD.
Rick · Member since
I better not give my opinion, since I will then spoil all the positivism. No offence to the sharer, for his generosity is mostly appreciated.
on my way up · Member since
It's indeed fantastic to hear something from those Sun City dates. Until now we knew those shows happened but apart from that we knew very little. That's why this recording is so revealing. It shows the band could still play their guts out, when needed(or, when they felt they needed to). The audience that witnessed this performance was very lucky:-) As everyone else I'm looking forward to part 2. I wonder whether songs like Hammer to fall, Crazy little thing or Another one bites the dust have also surprises in store for us(and all the others for that matter).
Kniggit · Member since
Wow, I haven't heard a fresher recording in ages! I love the way you can hear the intruments, and Freddie's voice.
I was starting to believe that I had heard all the really good gems that were recorded, but this gave me new hope! I would love to hear the whole concert.
Big thanks from Norway!
Yara · Member since
Hi, Anthony!
How are you?
I thoroughly enjoyed it all: from the sound quality to the performance. The sound quality is truly superb - I was positively shocked by the fullness and the immediacy of the sound - it's as if the band were playing a private gig for me!! :-)) - and, as it was mentioned above, by the clear, neat distinction between each instrument - one can appreciate both the songs as a whole and the individual performances. It's really great. I loved it.
Interestingly enough, the performance is way better, to my mind, than the average gigs from this tour - it ranks up there with the concerts in Brussels and Birmingham. So, it's a great performance too.
But what I found most interesting was the perfect documentation of a claim made by many fans who attended the Works' tour - the appreciation for the album aside, most of them commented on how powerful and tight Queen sounded in that tour overall.
Up until now, all we had were the valuable, though limited for leaving us hungry for sharing a bit of the experience, reports and stories kindly told to us by people who attended the concerts. The sound quality of most of the recordings, however, although great for being there as a way of documenting Queen's live legacy, was poor - even the better gigs from this tour have only an average sound quality, so I never really could have a real sense of what those fans were talking about.
Now, because of your share, I feel as if I had been there in the audience - it's great, it bears out all the stories told by the fans about how powerful and tight the band sounded back then!
So, well, I'm really thrilled: it was the first time I got to listen to such songs as Dragon Attack, which demands a powerful sound from the bass and the guitar for us to enjoy it, [i]really happen: [/i]it's just breathtaking. This was always one of my favorites but, no matter what the concert, I always thought that the sound quality didn't make justice to the huge potential this song has - [i]this recording has proven once and for all to me what a great composition by Brian it is. [/i]Listening to it as it was supposed to be listented to is an absolutely thrilling experience - it's a living song, it has a soul in it, it's grand, powerful, brutal even and absolutely astonishing in the way Brian make his little precious jams as John's bass lines give the song a groove which is enough to raise the most depressed corpse. ;-)))
I listen to it and I get thrilled. Dragon Attack sounds so thin and meager in "The Game" - it's one of those songs you know it's great and has a lot of potential, but [i]which demand a live [/i]performance for people to fully appreciate it - the rawness, the excitement and the aggressive take of the live performance finally does the song justice.
The recording you just shared revealed it all. Your share left no doubt about the power and the infectious rythim of the song; it showed it in all its greatness: from Freddie's muscular, syncopated and expressive vocals going through all kinds of loops in pitch to the amazing coordination and interaction between the guys.
This song has always been one of my all-time favorites. Your recording makes it sound like never before - it does justice to each and every element which makes this song so special.
Hands down - that's the way I would like live recordings to sound. It's brilliant.
THANKS A LOT FOR THIS. You made my day, month, year... :-)) I'm really happy.
Take care and thanks a whole lot,
Yara
riccardo · Member since
In my opinion Freddie's voice wasn't so good in this concert. I think this is a tipical shape of last part of September 84.
The Real Wizard · Member since
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[b]riccardo wrote: [/b]
In my opinion Freddie's voice wasn't so good in this concert. I think this is a tipical shape of last part of September 84.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure?
Listen again to Seven Seas Of Rhye, and then compare it to the Vienna 84 shows.
riccardo · Member since
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]riccardo wrote: [/b]
In my opinion Freddie's voice wasn't so good in this concert. I think this is a tipical shape of last part of September 84.
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Are you sure?
Listen again to Seven Seas Of Rhye, and then compare it to the Vienna 84 shows.
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Sure for that song, and for last line before guitar solo of IWTBF! But for the rest? For example, listen the versions of under pressure, somebody to love or hardlife... it's a tipical delivery of 84-85.
I think that the first night in Rock in Rio is much better.
The Real Wizard · Member since
I have to admit, I have yet to give an objective listen to the uncut 1-12-85 show, as the video is such bad quality. Is yours at least listenable?
But again, most of the audio on the 60 minute official release is from that night, and you're right, he does put in a good show.