Michael Jackson, Heather Mills and Susan Boyle walk into a bar.[/QUOTE]
If they were fighting over the title "Greatest Musician Currently Present In The Room", Heather Mills would probably win....;-P
pma · Member since
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[b]tell the insurance company to take a flying fuck at themselves, go to court and let justice prevail.
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[b]
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[b]
[/b]What if this is not possible for whatever reason as we are to understand from the legal documents. (referring to page 3 of that document again)[b]
"It is general practice for an [b]insurer [/b]to be entitled to control
settlement negotations and [b]the insured is precluded from any interferecence.[/b]
Under the majority of contracts for liability insurance, the absolute
control of the defense of the matter is turned over to the insurance
company and [b]the insured is excluded from any interference[/b]
in any negotiation for settlement or other legal proceedings.
[b]An insurance carrier has the right to settle claims
covered by insurance when it decides settlement is expedient and
the insured may not interfere with nor prevent such settlements.[/b]"
I suppose we can always speculate why they brokered the deal with the Chandler's (imagine how much money would the people affiliated with Jackon have lost if he was to miss contractual obligations due to a lengthy court case etc. the toll it would have taken on his mental and physical health? damage limitation indeed).
But speculation is just speculation and probably fruitless in this case. We could always speculate that Jackson (as claimed in his defense during the People vs Jackson-case) was simply unable to prevent his insurance company from making a deal. Even the latest non-tabloid reports say that Jackson was not aware that he had signed for 50 dates at the 02... It really does further the impression that this "manchild" had a very low awareness level for the realities of our cold harsh "adult" world. Adult in quotation marks for the sake of the fact that us adults clearly read and believe everything in print, paper or digital. We live in an age where people appear to lack the simplest ability to be critical towards information presented to us by the media. Imagine the things these "newspapers" would write about Freddie Mercury if he was alive and died of a.i.d.s today... as if the things they wrote about him in 1991 were not bad enough... Now I hope you can all still enjoy Queen knowing that he probably bummed a few teens together with MJ while recording "There must be more to life than kids"...
Btw, for all you quoting that autopsy report that "MJ was bald etc." the autopsy report
was already repoted to be fake even by other tabloids and it even got an official response from the coroner's office
http://www.okmagazine.com/posts/view/15342/
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/29/jackson-autopsy-report-a-fake/
Besides, if a 50 yo man hasn't got all his hair. Is that really newsworthy to begin with? Or that he was skinny.
YourValentine · Member since
Thanks for clearing that up, Pete. I was not familiar with the Jordan Chandler case and I begin to think that the legal system may have some serious flaws...
Even as a non-fan I heard that MJ had a bad accident when he filmed a Pepsi commercial and his hair caught fire. He was reported to have severely burnt his scalp and lost his hair, of course.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: [/b]
I don't know why people are so over protective about Jacko.
[/QUOTE]
Because society ate him up alive. He was a child star at age 5. Later in life he wanted to be a child again, and hung out with little boys, since he didn't have a chance when he was that age. Of course it's fucked up to people like you and I, but nobody will ever be able to feel sufficient empathy for the man because we weren't stars at age 5... nor were we given female hormones by our fathers until age 16 to keep our voices up high. This is emotional baggage that we simply cannot fathom.
[QUOTE]I agree with "innocent until proven guilty" and it's fine to say that you don't believe he was a paedophile, but you can't catagorically say he wasn't.[/QUOTE]
In that case, everybody is a potential pedophile.
[QUOTE]"Singer... entertainer... Oh. And possible paedophile." It will be something that always comes with him, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
It does, and it's horribly unfortunate.
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote:[/b]
Instead he handed over $22 million on the condition that the boy and his family kept their mouths shut.
[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he just wanted to be left alone, and could afford to cough up the coin to make it happen without the heartache and public humiliation of going to court?
Brandon The Great · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: [/b]
I don't know why people are so over protective about Jacko.
[/QUOTE]
Because society ate him up alive. He was a child star at age 5. Later in life he wanted to be a child again, and hung out with little boys, since he didn't have a chance when he was that age. Of course it's fucked up to people like you and I, but nobody will ever be able to feel sufficient empathy for the man because we weren't stars at age 5... nor were we given female hormones by our fathers until age 16 to keep our voices up high.
[QUOTE]I agree with "innocent until proven guilty" and it's fine to say that you don't believe he was a paedophile, but you can't catagorically say he wasn't.[/QUOTE]
In that case, you and I are potential pedophiles too.
[QUOTE]"Singer... entertainer... Oh. And possible paedophile." It will be something that always comes with him, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
It does, and it's horribly unfortunate.
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote:[/b]
Instead he handed over $22 million on the condition that the boy and his family kept their mouths shut.
[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he just wanted to be left alone, and could afford to cough up the coin to make it happen without the heartache and public humiliation of going to court?
[/QUOTE]
I agree completely. And, can I add, if we were under constant scrutiny of cameras, I'm sure most of us would be labeled as "wacko" and "weird" too.
It's assinine to say that, because we can't categorically state he wasn't a paedophile, it should always be tagged to his name. Personally, I think he was misunderstood, made some bad choices, and [i]Star[/i] [i]Magazine[/i] needed to move some copies.
I love Michael Jackson. Not in the way Freddie loved hairy men or in the way of the ancient greeks, but in the way a fan can love an idol and, sometimes, a celebrity can love a chimp.
-fatty- 2850 · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: [/b]
I don't know why people are so over protective about Jacko.
[/QUOTE]
Because society ate him up alive. He was a child star at age 5. Later in life he wanted to be a child again, and hung out with little boys, since he didn't have a chance when he was that age. Of course it's fucked up to people like you and I, but nobody will ever be able to feel sufficient empathy for the man because we weren't stars at age 5... nor were we given female hormones by our fathers until age 16 to keep our voices up high. This is emotional baggage that we simply cannot fathom.
[QUOTE]I agree with "innocent until proven guilty" and it's fine to say that you don't believe he was a paedophile, but you can't catagorically say he wasn't.[/QUOTE]
In that case, everybody is a potential pedophile.
[QUOTE]"Singer... entertainer... Oh. And possible paedophile." It will be something that always comes with him, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
It does, and it's horribly unfortunate.
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote:[/b]
Instead he handed over $22 million on the condition that the boy and his family kept their mouths shut.
[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he just wanted to be left alone, and could afford to cough up the coin to make it happen without the heartache and public humiliation of going to court?
[/QUOTE]
What's humiliating about clearing your name in a court of law?
Brandon The Great · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: [/b]
I don't know why people are so over protective about Jacko.
[/QUOTE]
Because society ate him up alive. He was a child star at age 5. Later in life he wanted to be a child again, and hung out with little boys, since he didn't have a chance when he was that age. Of course it's fucked up to people like you and I, but nobody will ever be able to feel sufficient empathy for the man because we weren't stars at age 5... nor were we given female hormones by our fathers until age 16 to keep our voices up high. This is emotional baggage that we simply cannot fathom.
[QUOTE]I agree with "innocent until proven guilty" and it's fine to say that you don't believe he was a paedophile, but you can't catagorically say he wasn't.[/QUOTE]
In that case, everybody is a potential pedophile.
[QUOTE]"Singer... entertainer... Oh. And possible paedophile." It will be something that always comes with him, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
It does, and it's horribly unfortunate.
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote:[/b]
Instead he handed over $22 million on the condition that the boy and his family kept their mouths shut.
[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he just wanted to be left alone, and could afford to cough up the coin to make it happen without the heartache and public humiliation of going to court?
[/QUOTE]
What's humiliating about clearing your name in a court of law?
[/QUOTE]
In an American court of law? When you're Michael Jackson? What's not?
IMO, he made the right decision, because the only thing people seem to like more than building up a celebrity is tearing them down. He'd already been found guilty by the press, and child molestation is one of those charges where it's incredibly difficult to overcome people wanting to "punish" the accused. There are so many people sitting in prisons found guilty of similar crimes and judges won't allow DNA testing because they don't want to appear soft on crime.
There's no such thing as a fair day in court. At least not in America. And, as long as people are involved, I'm willing to be around the world.
StoneColdClassicQueen · Member since
Too much media frenzy....
Seriously, everyone should lay off....
I need to know other news!!!!! I mean, I appreciated his music and legacy too, but come on now; do I really need to know where Bubbles the monkey is, or who trained Michael Jackson for over a decade??? How is that relevant????? All this trivial coverage is ridiculous! The will stuff and custody over his kids should be dealt with privately. Everything should. The man just died!!! We should respect his family's privacy, shouldn't we???Michael Jackson was awesome and all, but this is too much!!!! I don't even know what's going on these days except that people payed tribute at the Apollo theatre by getting up at 4 in the morning to get there -_-' I don't need to know about all things MJ 24/7. The most retarded crap pops up in the news these days...
The songs were great to listen to during the weekend, but I've heard Thriller, Billie Jean, The Way You Make Me Feel, and Don't Stop Til You Get Enough waaaaaaaay too many times. Even if I turn off my computer or telelvision, he's everywhere!!!!
And oh yeah, did I mention how stupid people are behaving? Dozens of suicides because of MJ's death. Are you kidding me??? That just makes things worse!! What good does that do anyone? Wouldn't someone pay tribute by [b]actually being alive[/b] to listen to MJ or buy his stuff? I'm not gonna off myself like that when Bri, Rog, or Deaky dies. (In Deaky's case, I might cry, but definitely not kill myself)
Rest [b]In[/b] [b]Peace[/b] Michael Jackson. I just wish the media and everyone else would let you....
magicalfreddiemercury · Member since
[b]StoneColdClassicQueen wrote: [/b]
[i]"Too much media frenzy....
Seriously, everyone should lay off.... [/i]
[i]Rest [b]In[/b] [b]Peace[/b] Michael Jackson. I just wish the media and everyone else would let you...."[/i]
===
So true. You know, not too long ago, the only thing on the news - any news - was the Iran election and aftermath. Then a South Carolina senator had an affair and, suddenly, Iran wasn't news anymore. And THEN... Farrah died. AND THEN Michael died. There's nothing else going on in the world, apparently, except the autopsies on MJ and the in-fighting of the Jackson family.
I guess all is peaceful on the seas - no more pirates??? - and in Iran, Afganistan, Iraq, Honduras, Somalia, North Korea...
JoxerTheDeityPirate · Member since
i dont know if you lot in the US knew this but the Daily Express newspaper here in the UK kept on about Diana's death on the front page for 10 years!
so,i hate to think how long they are gonna go on about Jacko..
welcome to the new Marilyn/Elvis
-fatty- 2850 · Member since
I'm surprised that Treasure Moment hasn't posted a link to a Youtube video explaining how Michael Jackson's death is in some way related to swine flu, 9/11 and the current economic crisis. Oh yes and we're all sheep.
fatty.
john bodega · Member since
Eh I can fill in for him. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]you really area clueless comedian fatty hahaha, open your mind and stop listening to the mainstream media. 100000x times more important things happen than michael jackson (who by the way is overrated garbage).[/QUOTE]
pma · Member since
If someone is bored of their current source of news and information about world events concentrating too much on Michael Jackson, how about changing to some other website/newspaper for news? There are countless options, perhaps you look for news in the wrong place to begin with?.
I don't know what kind of publications other countries have, but round here the only newspapers writing daily about MJ are tabloids or tabloid-like newspapers strongly affiliated with tabloids or owned by the same companies.
Then there are the real newspapers and real news-sites, that do not report on what British/US tabloids have written about nor consider them sources worthy of quoting to begin with (and show a high level of journalistic integrity).
Surely one can always rely on THE BBC for no-nonsense news (well, "always"...), no matter where you are around the world...
http://news.bbc.co.uk
JoxerTheDeityPirate · Member since
^if you want nonsense reporting watch the most over-rated woman on a news channel [Kay Burley,Sky News] continually refering to NEVERLAND as GRACELANDS.
someone should really slap that surgically enhanced face of hers
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Brandon The Great wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: [/b]
I don't know why people are so over protective about Jacko.
[/QUOTE]
Because society ate him up alive. He was a child star at age 5. Later in life he wanted to be a child again, and hung out with little boys, since he didn't have a chance when he was that age. Of course it's fucked up to people like you and I, but nobody will ever be able to feel sufficient empathy for the man because we weren't stars at age 5... nor were we given female hormones by our fathers until age 16 to keep our voices up high. This is emotional baggage that we simply cannot fathom.
[QUOTE]I agree with "innocent until proven guilty" and it's fine to say that you don't believe he was a paedophile, but you can't catagorically say he wasn't.[/QUOTE]
In that case, everybody is a potential pedophile.
[QUOTE]"Singer... entertainer... Oh. And possible paedophile." It will be something that always comes with him, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]
It does, and it's horribly unfortunate.
[QUOTE]
[b]-fatty- wrote:[/b]
Instead he handed over $22 million on the condition that the boy and his family kept their mouths shut.
[/QUOTE]
Or maybe he just wanted to be left alone, and could afford to cough up the coin to make it happen without the heartache and public humiliation of going to court?
[/QUOTE]
What's humiliating about clearing your name in a court of law?
[/QUOTE]
In an American court of law? When you're Michael Jackson? What's not?
IMO, he made the right decision, because the only thing people seem to like more than building up a celebrity is tearing them down. He'd already been found guilty by the press, and child molestation is one of those charges where it's incredibly difficult to overcome people wanting to "punish" the accused. There are so many people sitting in prisons found guilty of similar crimes and judges won't allow DNA testing because they don't want to appear soft on crime.
There's no such thing as a fair day in court. At least not in America. And, as long as people are involved, I'm willing to be around the world.
