Queen music on Games (and Live Killers, by the way)

I hear alarm bells ringing: the " seriously fab Best of Queen in the 70s and/or 80s DVD/CD package" sounds far too much like the seriously crap "Rare Live: Concert through time and space", which should've been named "The badly edited series of clips designed to cash in on Queen's mid-late eighties popularity". Please lock the DoRo twins in a basement for the next two years until the project has been released.

Yeah, I'd love to see a torpedo hit their German arses.

[b]pittrek is right

This is the future and the correct way how to handle the existence
of audience recordings and turn them into profit :
http://www.livemetallica.com/

it seems to me that even the older Metallica concerts are offered for
FREE as mp3 ,they must be very proud of there earlier shows , so whats
the problem with Queen why do they not want to give there fans what they want?
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For QP thinks like this: they want to release products which appeal to the bigger/general public. People who enjoy (rock) music. By releasing a product which contains big hits, such as Break Free, Dust, Radio etc. As a result, obscure material will remain in the shadows. White Queen, Ogre Battle, Father To Son? Never heard of those songs thus we won't buy it!

Apply this thought to their releases over the years and you will start to notice a pattern. It's a repetitive, non-experimental pattern. This is EXACTLY the reason why we QZ'ers criticise Greg so much: it's a 'been there, done that' matter. For us (die-hard) fans this is extremely frustrating as we are often left with abysmal releases.

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[b]Rick wrote: [/b]

For QP thinks like this: they want to release products which appeal to the bigger/general public. People who enjoy (rock) music. By releasing a product which contains big hits, such as Break Free, Dust, Radio etc. As a result, obscure material will remain in the shadows. White Queen, Ogre Battle, Father To Son? Never heard of those songs thus we won't buy it!

Apply this thought to their releases over the years and you will start to notice a pattern. It's a repetitive, non-experimental pattern. This is EXACTLY the reason why we QZ'ers criticise Greg so much: it's a 'been there, done that' matter. For us (die-hard) fans this is extremely frustrating as we are often left with abysmal releases.




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This may be true, but why criticise Greg?
He's the archivist, and therefore looks after the archives - cateloging, maintaining etc.
While he has said he puts together proposals for new products, he has absolutely no say in what gets released - this is what confuses me sometimes - you dont have to like Greg if his personality grates on you or something, but people see him as some sort of limb of Queen Productions, and moan at him as if it'll change anything. Im sure he does mention to his bosses what the feeling of the die hards is, but when it comes down to it, he cant change anything, and people attack him as though he can!

Plus, from what Greg has said in the past regarding projects he is working on, and things he has proposed, he seems to be roughly on the same wavelength as many of us - its not his fault if the bosses change his ideas like with the singles box sets.


On a different note - in reference to this idea of a compilation of stuff from the 70's/80's - I wouldnt mind this provided it wasnt at the expense of full releases - i.e. if a full gig is available on audio/video, release it, but if its bits and pieces in either format, then a project reminiscent of Led Zep's "DVD" would be a cool alternative. Not another rare live though!

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[b]pittrek wrote: [/b]

This is the future and the correct way how to handle the existence of audience recordings and turn them into profit :[url=http://www.livemetallica.com:80/] http://www.livemetallica.com[/url]/[/QUOTE]


It's not just metallica that do this.
I gather the Pet shop Boys have done it for their latest tour and other bands have also done it recent years.

Queen can't even be bothered to upload "rare" tracks from their last two tours - instead we got half a dozen versions of the same old songs - so what chance is there of them ever uploading full gigs like this?

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[b]Cwazy little thing wrote: [/b]

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[b]Rick wrote: [/b]



For QP thinks like this: they want to release products which appeal to the bigger/general public. People who enjoy (rock) music. By releasing a product which contains big hits, such as Break Free, Dust, Radio etc. As a result, obscure material will remain in the shadows. White Queen, Ogre Battle, Father To Son? Never heard of those songs thus we won't buy it!

Apply this thought to their releases over the years and you will start to notice a pattern. It's a repetitive, non-experimental pattern. This is EXACTLY the reason why we QZ'ers criticise Greg so much: it's a 'been there, done that' matter. For us (die-hard) fans this is extremely frustrating as we are often left with abysmal releases.





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This may be true, but why criticise Greg?
He's the archivist, and therefore looks after the archives - cateloging, maintaining etc.
While he has said he puts together proposals for new products, he has absolutely no say in what gets released - this is what confuses me sometimes - you dont have to like Greg if his personality grates on you or something, but people see him as some sort of limb of Queen Productions, and moan at him as if it'll change anything. Im sure he does mention to his bosses what the feeling of the die hards is, but when it comes down to it, he cant change anything, and people attack him as though he can!

Plus, from what Greg has said in the past regarding projects he is working on, and things he has proposed, he seems to be roughly on the same wavelength as many of us - its not his fault if the bosses change his ideas like with the singles box sets.


On a different note - in reference to this idea of a compilation of stuff from the 70's/80's - I wouldnt mind this provided it wasnt at the expense of full releases - i.e. if a full gig is available on audio/video, release it, but if its bits and pieces in either format, then a project reminiscent of Led Zep's "DVD" would be a cool alternative. Not another rare live though!




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Our criticism towards Greg is unjust, I totally agree. He is an easy victim since he is the only employee of QP posting here.

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[b]pittrek wrote: [/b]

This is the future and the correct way how to handle the existence of audience recordings and turn them into profit :[url=http://www.livemetallica.com:80/] http://www.livemetallica.com[/url]/[/QUOTE]
Agreed... My brother inlaw is huge metallica fan and he showed me this wonderful site. Amazed I was.

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[b]Rick wrote: [/b]

Yeah, I'd love to see a torpedo hit their German arses.[/QUOTE]
By the way: They're from Austria ;)

cheers

Respect for Greg! He's the only one who's not posting anonymous here.

Why would EMI listen to a handful of die hard fans who want everything and never are satisfied?
Some of us are behaving like little children that want a new toy (after they just got one).
There aren't a lot of bands that give it [b]all[/b] away for free (or for sale). The record industry is a business and they have to make profit. There's more money to make with a new greatest hits than with a re-issue of Live Killers or with a new solo or Q+PR album. Also, a new GH is a good way to bring Queen back in publicity. So it's fair to me to release a new GH every three, four years, when a new a new generation of music buyers stands up.

Although '73-79 is my favourite live era and I would love to see proper releases of the '70's concerts, I think the more we go back in time, the less people are interested and will buy.

And if there was a dvd/cd release of LK, how often would you play it? Daily? weekly? just once? Or would you put it on a shelf and then ask for more?

Solution:

Release the Greatest Hits albums for the common music fan, and release the older concerts / boxed sets in smaller quantities for the more serious fans.  It's just a matter of the right people having the will to make it happen.

One will be hard-pressed to argue against the idea that their artistic peak was in the 70s, and there is currently no complementing concert release from the era that does them justice.